Panga Softbaiting boat
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Printed Date: 10 Jun 2026 at 9:45pm
Topic: Panga Softbaiting boat
Posted By: nvstg8r
Subject: Panga Softbaiting boat
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 9:59pm
I purchased an 18ft Panga in October for the new fishing season and must say it has been a great buy and perfect for my softbaiting. It has a 40hp pull start Sail engine (all Yamaha parts) which goes like a dream and cruises at about 20 Knots with three onboard. These boats were originally designed for UNESCO and built by Yamaha for third world countries - cheap to make cheap to run safe, easy to self repair and bloody useful. Panga means Machete as this is the sort of shape it is. The big 34 footers arused for drug smuggling in the Caribean. The only drugs on my one are packets of GULP!
Been out in a bit of rough and though I had to pedal back a bit I was surprised how well it handled the chop. The guy up front was dry and me behind the wheel howeverf my mate on the jump seat on front of the CC got the odd splash. It has two venturas either side which push any excess straight out under power. Had some owsome  trips with heaps of snapper. There you go, just a bit about my boat. $13K for boat,motor and trailer(demo) - new in NZ about I think $16k
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Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 10:03pm
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Go Fish in Baja Mexico they're everywhere! No Doubt about it they're a very handy craft.
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Posted By: notalloyit
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:06am
Nice boat always admired those. They look like a proper boat with that nice sheerline Go the centre cockpits!
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Posted By: S.O.T
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 7:46am
Hey mate nice boat. I'm looking at them at the moment as a dive boat. Does yours have an underfloor tank? After a few more months use have found any other pros & cons? Also how do you think an 18/19 footer would run with a 60hp on the back? How easy are they to launch?
Have a larger boat but it takes a bit of effort to launch and requires a 2-3 people for a trip. Want something smaller, easier for those last minute 'let's just go' sessions where I just want to shoot 10 minutes down the coast to get a feed and be back at home before the wife knows I'm gone type boats.
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Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 9:09am
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Pretty good, easily handled and surprisingly stable with good load carrying capacity. God forbid, a cheap boat that works...
When I was reading the description all I got was the sound track to Machete and images of half naked people shooting and stabbing each other. Guess there's a reason they called them panga's and not machetes!
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 9:52am
Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 3:05pm
They are made of fibre glass and damn near bulletproof. My good friend danny runs a 26ft super panga charter and would be out fishing with the big boat fleet most days 30-70 miles offshore.They are all over the caribbean and central america which is testament to how durable they are. I dont know that they would be used for drug running as they are pretty bloody heavy and the american centre consoles have that market covered, in saying that we had one pass us off the coast of cuba doing 35knots in the middle of the night late last year!
Isn't machete the same in english and spanish and panga just means boat? (any spanish speakers here? my mexican slang isnt always the best)
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Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 3:14pm
They're all the same thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machete - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machete
How are these stability wise?
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 3:20pm
Posted By: crazyeddy
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 5:55pm
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several models of pangas being advertised on a famous nz trading website, under *STARCO* panga boats......
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Posted By: Huggybear
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 9:30am
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Sounds like a great boat for the price. Sail outboard sounds good too. I'm impressed that the 40hp can do so much. I thought those boats would be quite heavy and require more to get that sort of speed with that many people on board. Interesting. Cheers for sharing about your boat!
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Posted By: couda
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 6:01pm
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I've been seriously thinking about one of these, but have wondered about the build quality. Any comment?
My previous boat for the last 5 years was a Senator RH620 which I used out of Napier, stable platform, crap traveller. Had a stabi before that, same.
I moved to Raro for 18 months work in April, and have done a couple of charters, but am seriously looking for my own CC. (went out on a kiwikraft with Capt Moko last week, much narrower than senator or stabi but incredibly better in the rough). Good thing about here is 200m of water not far from the reef.
Still trying to work out what to get, but requirements are
-2-3 people
-easy launch
-some form of bimni/hardtop (must be removable for shipping)
-5-6m
<30k all setup
Any suggestions
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 6:38pm
Pangas only need the 40hp for the length as they are far narrower than a normal NZ boat. The upside is that they are incredibly stable, excellent boats to fish out of, run on small horsepower and make for a surprisingly comfortable ride. Downside is that they do get quite wet in a chop (as you'd expect) and the low freeboard makes for a less than totally secure feeling when standing up in the boat, especially if it is a little rocky and roll-ey. These are the boats we use in the solomons all the time, go everywhere in them, no worries, cast all day for GTs etc, but still not tooooo sure how you'd go in NZ, especially if a chill breeze got up.... could make life interesting. I would say they are a beaut warm weather, warm water boat however.
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Posted By: Rodbolt
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 7:22pm
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I have a 22' one coming. The demonstrator is well built and finished albeit a little industrial. Plenty strong with no hungry lay up. Our first fizzy after 15 years of launches.Mine is getting a 130 e-tec on a CMC 5" jack. A little overpowered but the e-tec weighs the same as the 4T 90 Yam. The hull is designed for use with a jack, with the concave runner plank at the transom. I have done a lot of sea miles in Longboats in the Islands, and am not fussed by their idiosyncracies like low gunwales. They are not an ocean racing deep V but the ride is fine due to the narrower beam - any designer will tell you a fizz boat pounds out on the chines because of the beam. Yep, exposed to the elements but consider how much usuable space on a small boat like this is taken up with a cabin, and the new breathable wet gear is more than adequate for that trip home when the weather pops up quicker than you expected. Ditto for the T top, the sun angle is never favourable and the struts get in the way.
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Posted By: nvstg8r
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 10:36pm
Rodbolt you will have a blast, that Panga of yours is going to fly !!
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Clark Gable
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Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 7:45am
Great that this thread popped up again, I was just looking at one of these on TM.
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Posted By: Tinky
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:09am
One of my previous boats was a 4.3m glass cat hull with a stand up console on it. Always wanted to cut out and move the console to the front of the boat. Helps you get onto the plane quicker and keeps you out of the spray as well. Never got around to it though before selling it. Great boat for fishing off though! Especially using a fly rod!
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:11am
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I have been trying to get plans for a panga but run into a brick wall, if anyone has plans could you let me know
cheers.
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Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:22am
Blue Asparagus wrote:
I have been trying to get plans for a panga but run into a brick wall, if anyone has plans could you let me know
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what/ you want to make a mold so you can punch them out or just make one - perhaps glass over ply?
this is a 23ftr stitch n' glue;
http://www.bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/Bowdidge_Marine_Designs_1/Bosuns_Mate_23.html - http://www.bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/Bowdidge_Marine_Designs_1/Bosuns_Mate_23.html
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Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:24am
Blue Asparagus wrote:
I have been trying to get plans for a panga but run into a brick wall, if anyone has plans could you let me know
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I was looking around on a boat design forum, a lot of the panga plans floating around on the net are crap, top heavy and tippy and need more power to get up.
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Posted By: Rodbolt
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 9:34pm
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http://www.bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/Bowdidge_Marine_Designs_1/Bosuns_Mate_23.html - http://www.bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/Bowdidge_Marine_Designs_1/Bosuns_Mate_23.html This is a good useful boat in the same culture as the Panga with a length/beam ratio of 2.75. IE its a long narrow (by kiwi standards) boat. Its the narrow beam which makes them so easily driven, directionally stable even at low speeds, and the relatively flat deadrise makes them stable at rest. Boats like this do not noticeably make the transition onto plane because there is no huge amount of drag induced by a beamy deep vee. That two or three seconds while the outboard churns and the bow points skywards as all the loose gear slides sternwards just isn't there. That also transforms into economy at trolling speeds because at 8-10 knots the boat isn't halfway out of the "hole". If there is a downside its that the damn things do over 5kts at idle. I looked at building a very similar boat because i wanted a panga. BUT For a bit under 18 grand you can buy a 22' Panga on a galv trailer, new tyres, rego, WOF drive away. Do the math. There's NZ$3000:00 worth of epoxy resin in this at best prices, just for starters.I do admit, having done it a few times myself, that nothing beats heading our to sea in a boat you built yourself. Except, perhaps, laying a little rubber in the rod - but thats another topic.
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 9:42pm
yeah saw the link I would use polyester epoxy is a right beatch to work with, would like to extend it to 9m and loose the interior side seating
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Posted By: Panga
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 10:02pm
Blue Asparagus wrote:
yeah saw the link I would use polyester epoxy is a right beatch to work with, would like to extend it to 9m and loose the interior side seating |
Maybe the side seating is flotation chambers, maybe not.
the americans have done some lovely things with the panga design, maybe if you extended it to 9 metres you could make the beam a bit wider, and the sides a little higher.
Our one was a yamaha built 23 foot panga, it was a bit of fun.
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Posted By: Rodbolt
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 2:23pm
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Blue Asparagus, polyester resin is only good for laminating glass. It's useless for anything else, especially as a wood glue. Don't even think about it mate. The side seats are there for a reason apart from comfort, see comment below about internal volume. Panga, the reason the gunwales on a self bail /internal liner Panga are low is to limit the amount of water they hold. This means if the boat is pooped or swamped by a sea/s the weight of water in the self bail hull is not enough to destabilise the boat or cause it to float gunwale under, which renders the self bail useless. I have been in a few Pangas in the Islands which have been filled gunwale top in reef entrances and poorly calculated (Pacific Rum) attempts to surf over reefs at high tide, and the worst that happened was a tackle box full of water and a wet jacksie. The scuppers clear it in a surprisingly short time, usually before the woo hoos and shrieks of laughter that accompany such events in the Islands have died down.
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