DUEL reels
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Topic: DUEL reels
Posted By: Hook up!
Subject: DUEL reels
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 10:58am
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Looking at getting a new game set up for my 20ft Trophy so looking for a good stand up set up. Have seen the DUEL reels that when you wynd backwayrds it's your 2nd gear and wynd forwards is your first gear. I think there awesome but are a lot more expensive than the tiagra's and Penns. Has anyone had much experince with them and do you think it's worth the extra $$$$$$?
Would appreciate the any feed back.
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Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 11:14am
| Only used a duel reel once, a 50w with 80lb braid for puka fishing. The ability to chage back and forth between low and high gear so easily was a really nice feature. |
Posted By: A C
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 11:22am
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I used the same set of Duels of varying sizes a number of times on some good fish and over a number of seasons. Initially it took a while to get used to winding backwards and I didn't see or feel any benefit from it.
I had one particular big stubborn fish and the drag stayed beautiful for hours, so IMO they're up to the task but I wouldn't bypass a Shimano or Penn for one. ------------- Aye-Aye cloth eyes. |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 1:01pm
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The 2-speed system is so much easier to use in a duel than in any otehr reel I reckon. If you have the $$$, and you will need plenty, then yes, by all means, they are a great reel. Their drag system is not ideal however for trying to drop livies to the bottom for kingfish etc, as it never really pops into free-spool perfectly, and you have to strip line off the reel to feed out a jack mack for kings, however, as a trolling reel, mate, they are superb. Whether the extra price overthe Penn/Shims is justifiable, well, that is up to you, but certainly, the 2 speed, forward/backards system on the duel is the smoothest, easiest to use I have yet seen. |
Posted By: Hook up!
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 1:45pm
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Cheers for the info guys. Capt Asparagus it would just mean going for longer with out a new set up while I save more. Very interesting that they don't fully free spool - mite be a pain in the but trying to live bait at the rangitairis with one. |
Posted By: Peter Pakula
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 1:50pm
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You can adjust the free spool and drag setup very much the same way the old everols were done, by adding or removing the springs in the drag mechanism.
You can also get heavier or lighter springs.
They should have had a much greater acceptance then they did, a shame that all that was wrong with them was the brand.
The two speed system was and still is way ahead of it's time.
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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 2:20pm
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I've had a 6/0, 2 speed for 12 years and I've got it loaded with 1200 yards of FINS PRT 80 lb (tests @ 78 lb) and about 100 meters, 37 kg, mono-top-shot. Drag is easily altered by changing internal springs. I also have a spare spool of 24 kg and that can be changed in minutes and because each spool has its own drag plates and springs, no alteration is needed. BTW - set at 12 kg strike (fighting) gives full drag of 23 kg and still gets freespool! Trust me, the reverse wind for low speed is fantastic, especially on longish fights - when your winding arm gets tired, switch to low and engage a different set of muscles-this lets your fast winders recover. Also, when the braid is out, I can forget the pump - just go reverse and wind it in!! If I had the money, I'd have all Duels.  ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 2:51pm
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Yep, got kilwell to dickey with the little springs, and it is OK now, but still not a free as a lever drag... but good enough. It just means that if livie-ing with smaller jackmacks, I use a penn, but for a larger fish, or lures, the duel is the one. Seen some folks using the reel as a winch... putting the rod across the transom, and rocking the handle backwards and forwards thru about 90degrees... that line comes in then! :-) Not terribly sporting perhaps, but when a double header of bluenose is kicking up down deep, it just keeps pulling that line in. |
Posted By: A C
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 8:41pm
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Capt Asparagus wrote:Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 10:25pm
| Reel Affair, if you are after a 9/0 Duel their is one on trademe with a rod http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Fishing/Big-game/Reels/auction-350103698.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Fishing/Big-game/Reels/auction-350103698.htm This would be a good buy at this price, if you did not want the Chair Rod I am sure you could sell the rod on trade me and buy a good stand up rod. |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 10:36pm
| I was thinking exactly that when watching that clip, AC. |
Posted By: too much
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 10:28am
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mate i have a couple of 9/0 duels orsome reels ..the two speed system is great ..especialy with virgin fishos .. ------------- GO HARD STAND TALL |
Posted By: Snag
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 4:01pm
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Forlongs in Hamilton have a 6/0 & 9/0 going really cheap!!! Brand new, earlyer models-old handle.
I think the 9/0 is around $900 & the 6/0 cheaper.
They only have 1 of each.
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 5:52pm
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If they have a duel for under 900, buy it, buy it QUICK!!! Indeed, buy them both, those prices are way way below wholesale. Just looked on their on-line site, no mention of any duels... think I will give them a call tomorrow actually.... |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 5:56pm
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Yeah a reel ahead of its time and technology alright...did they not get banned in some comps in the mid 90's or was that just goss...? ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 5:57pm
| I don't see why they would ever be banned??? First I have heard of this.... |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 6:05pm
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Some of the big gun Ozzies that used to regulary fish the Whangaroa one base came over and played with some and kicked up a hornets nest about how anglers could - in thier opinion - cheat with the wind fwd, wind back method... but that was a while ago now Stu, so I was just curious to see if others had heard of this or porkies. ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: Snag
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 7:58pm
They are closed tomorrow for public holiday CA.
They will be open on Tuesday. They need to go!!!. Who ever gets them are in for a killer bargain.
Perfect for up coming game season.
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 8:13pm
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Dammit... I'll call them 1st thing tuesday.... none of you other buggers go and pip me to the post now, y'hear! :-) If the 6/0 (which is what I have) is less than the $900.... I think I may just get them both. Cachelot, I don't see how using the reel like that could be considered cheating, any more than using a button change two-speed reel. Seems odd to me. I tell you, if Duels could be a similar price to the mainstream goldies, man, I am sure they would quickly outsell the others. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 8:31pm
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gees Capt you missed 4 of them on T/M with CD rods belonged to marty johansen 2x 80s and 2 x 50 went for about $750 each mate, I know of two of the big ones went down to greymouth on a well known charter boat,1st trip out burnt out the drags big time.
------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: A C
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 8:51pm
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Interesting Steve - would like to know more about the drag snag ? ------------- Aye-Aye cloth eyes. |
Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 9:14pm
| BA - Marty was selling Aletecnos Reels not Duels, a mate of mine got one of the 80's. |
Posted By: JoshW
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 9:24pm
no surprises there seen the same thing with 2 of them on stripies. IMO you'd be mad to buy one over a tiagra...unless they were half the the price.
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 10:12pm
| So was MArty selling some Duel reels or Alutechnos reels (I actually like both, but reckon the duels are just the sweetest 2-speed system there is) I know CD is the distrib. for Alutechnos, but Kilwell do Duels, so wondering why Marty would have Duels? |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 10:18pm
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sorry chaps yeah alutenous not duels. he was selling them due to the makira reels they now stock. Sorry capt. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2011 at 10:35pm
| Ce Nada, mi amigo. |
Posted By: Panga
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 8:15am
------------- I ONLY FISH HANDMADE KOJAK CUSTOM RODS. |
Posted By: Snag
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 11:06am
the reels have never left the dysplay cabinet.
So the drags have never been tested. Never herd of any brand new Goldie gettn smashed that hard tho to the point of not workin?.
The 6/0 is around $750 I think?.
 First to veiw will buy both i reckon!.
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 10:38am
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They don't have them any more. I do. Nyah-nyah-nyahh! :-) Ridiculously cheap price, got both reels for less than the normal wholesale price of the small one itself! Goodie goodie goodie, new toys, yumyumyum! :-) Whiti Fisho... I have some new goldies for you to borrow mate! :-) |
Posted By: 2cold
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 10:56am
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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 1:18pm
Well done Captain - I'm jealous!! ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: Snag
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 1:21pm
Should be on its way now. Enjoy  |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 1:28pm
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New toysnewtoysnewtoys yumyumyumyum..... These are probably gonna be given to my hosts in Norfolk Island, along with gimbal belts, harnesses, stacks of lures, rigging gear, bulk spools of nylon, etc etc etc..... it'll be like Xmas for them opening this stuff! :-) |
Posted By: Martini Max
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 7:09pm
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Splitter..
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Posted By: Baru
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 4:04pm
| Mostly fish solo out of 635 billfisher, find the duel reels great for keeping tension on a fish, once you are used to them it is so instinctive to go between low and high ratio, especially when you also having to manoeuvre the boat. Sure their drag is not as smooth as a tiagra, but at the same time they are not that bad. |