Eagle Rays
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Landbased & Surfcasting
Forum Description: From rocks or beaches, here's the place for the landbased fishos to share information
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Printed Date: 03 Jul 2026 at 8:18am
Topic: Eagle Rays
Posted By: Brown Dog
Subject: Eagle Rays
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 8:10am
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Have been plagued by Eagle Rays over the last couple of weeks, have caught 4 in total. While a good test for my gear, shock leader strength etc, to date I have just been releasing them back. I have eaten Stingray before and it was pretty good, but not sure how to prepare and cook them, does anyone else eat these things? And if so how do you prepare them? Also whats the most humane way of killing them? And lastly if not eadible can they be used for bait? |
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Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 8:51am
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you can eat them ,flaps on bbq ,but why!!! you need to be hungery ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 10:32am
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As above paul, whip the wings off and straight onto the BBQ, but yeah plenty of others out edible out there. May have to take you out on the boat for a fish to get you some snapper
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Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 12:20pm
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You got a boat now Seth? |
Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 2:05pm
10ft of pure awesomness Paul 
Havent been for a surfast since I got it which is a bit sad, and only a couple of shark hunts, will be hitting the blow holes land based at some stage for a shark hunt and will finish of the day with a snapper fish
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Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 2:38pm
Good on ya mate, still like the simplicity of surf casting, and been getting a few lately. |
Seth wrote:Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 2:44pm
| God stuff, if you ever wanna get out give me a bell bud |
Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 2:55pm
| Wildo, you fishing in the Manukau?? |
Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 4:05pm
| Yep, bout 6 min motor from Te Toro in about 3 - 5 metres only. Yet to come back skunked on the sapper front, last 4 fishing trips Jeff and I picked up 14, 11 and 8, I did a solo and came back with 5 snaps and a gurnard so plenty out there, just one the wrong side of the channel to surfcast. |
Posted By: silvershark
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 4:20pm
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Aveyfan re: cooking, In Oz lots of the fish & Chip shops and prob a few of the lower eating out places, use a cookie cutter and sell it as scollaps, cook it the same.
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Posted By: RJ51
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:35am
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Cut the wings off and fillet down either side of the grissel and smoke them with a bit of brown sugar and salt. Eat it straight out of the smoker on some bread |
Posted By: Daniel K
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:54am
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Fillet, smoke and cover in teriyaki sauce, serve hot. |
Posted By: JAKE D
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 11:00am
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yep they are edible but as others have said there are plenty other better species out there..if you ever see scallops for sale without a roe these are 90% of the time stingray meat as it has a similar texture. not sure about eagles but i know long and short tail stingrays have a toxin in the liver which is pretty poisonous, and thats why orcas never eat the main body.
but its better to just release them and let us divers have something pretty to look at
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Posted By: penguin
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 11:25am
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So are you saying that an Orca, using just it`s teeth, can seperate out the dodgy parts of a stingray? I find that very hard to believe ------------- Pingu...`The Mackerel Ho`` |
Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 1:17pm
| Thanks for the help everyone. |
Posted By: JAKE D
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 6:00pm
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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 6:52pm
Yep we have done this a few times with smaller Eagles and its excellent, also BBQ Stingray is a number one delicatesy in Singapore... done some into fish pie also... so they be great if done right.  ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 7:00pm
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I think it was geoff thomas did an episode last year where he targeted rays so he could use them for live bait for sharks, if you're after bigger sharks, that could be a dodgy goer for you. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 1:55pm
How do you go about handling stingies on the rocks...apart from very carefully!
What's the reach of their tails etc? Do you try and stand on the tail or what??? ------------- Jonny Gooner Ooh ta ooh ta be ooh ta be a Gooner!! |
Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:17pm
That was another question that I had too Gooner, To date I flip them on their backs, take the hook out, flip them over, stick my fingers in the nose & lift them up & drag them across the beach. Bit different on the rocks though. Also whats the best way to kill the buggers?? I asume hitting them on the head is the best way?? |
Posted By: JAKE D
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 9:51am
| the reach of the barb (the only bit that actually stings) is very small as it is located right near the base of the tail, and they have to physically stab you and detach it from there bodies (like a bee) the tail can reach around the lenth of the body and in 360 degrees around, but whilst scary and a little bit sore it cannot actually sting you with the tail. the best way is as said above. that is to flip them over (but leave in the water to avoid excess damage) because that way the barb and tail cannot reach you...obviously this is not possible to do in any swell or surge, i find the best way to remove the hook is with the back of a butter kinife and just flick it out |
Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 3:22pm
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 4:07pm
I think they like grey whale tongues, JB, that was what they filmed off California for the Attenborough series "The Blue Planet".
NZ Geographic did an article on them a few years ago that had pictures of a orca playing with a terrified mako shark before snaffling it. The mako was trying to use the photographer as protection. Will try and dig the photo out and scan it on...
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Posted By: dreadnaught
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:27am
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Yep, Orcas are bad ass. I've seen them chasing stingrays before in the Waitamata harbour, but never knew how they got the business done without getting stung...? Luckily, I saw a doco on National Geographic made by Dr Ingrid Visser (Kiwi) about the Orca hunting stingrays in Whangarei Heads. Brutal. Turns out, the giant bloody Orca dive down behind the stingray, and pick it up in its teeth by the stingray's tail (or in the case of an eagle ray, it's really just its whip). Seriously. Then the Orca might fling it high into the air by the tail to try and stun it, or just hold it steady in the water while a second Orca comes the eats the wings... I wouldn't have believed it if you told me; but after watching the doco... Mate. You don't wanna be on the wrong side of a 5 tonne apex predator that pack hunts... ------------- "You know, the trouble with machinery is that charm doesn't work on it." |
Posted By: KEEN-MAD-FISH0
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 7:34am
| i saw that same programme, one orca hold s the rays down by the tail, and another comes and eats the thing, man i love that nat geo, discovery stuff. |
Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 11:10am
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Posted By: z_si
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 6:25am
| Why would you want to kill one just to use it for bait? Can't believe you even ask if they're good for bait when there's so many other fish species that are a lot more common and can be used. Same goes for eating them, why would you when there's so much else out there that probably tastes a lot better. |
Posted By: Raumatibeach
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 9:12am
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Found some stuff about the Orca Mako incident http://www.nzgeographic.co.nz/articles.php?ID=158 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1231454/Killer-whales-Death-karate-chop-deadly-tactic-used-orcas-sharks.html The gray whale pics are here http://www.carnivoraforum.com/index.cgi?board=cetaceans&action=print&thread=2535 ------------- Get off my lawn.... |
Posted By: hEUgE
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 3:46pm
| Awesome post Raumati.. |
Posted By: #Eight
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 5:22pm
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Has anyone caught an Orca with a rod and reel? (probably a dumb question...) Here is a YouTube footage of an Orca feasting on a ray....Skip thru to 1.56 to see them in action in NZ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS6NjdGLVZs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS6NjdGLVZs ------------- 1 + 1 = Fish |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 5:58pm
| I usually gaff an eagle through the wing tip it over and take the hooks out, I dont think it's too traumatic for the ray. I prefer to avoid catching them if I can, some spots have heaps of them. |
Posted By: RJ51
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 11:53am
| Ive seen video of bill hohepa catching hapuka when orca were around and one nicked off with his puka he was pulling in he had a tug of war for awhile and ended up with half the hapuka |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 1:33pm
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Also some baits are loved by rays jack mac's i would think being no 1 ,great fish to play on light line ,but ouch the finger burns they give you on an Alvey ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
,if already dead they make good bait once cubed and soaked in fish oil