What Stella?
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Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
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Printed Date: 05 Jun 2026 at 5:21am
Topic: What Stella?
Posted By: Rat Catcher
Subject: What Stella?
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 5:30pm
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I'm thinking about buying a Stella some time in the not too distant future for use as mostly as a jigging reel but to also give this topwater thing a go. I imagine I'll probably use it for jigging 60% - 70% of the time and the rest for stickbaits. What size reel would you suggest and more importantly why? |
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Posted By: snapazapa
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 5:44pm
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I bought a 10000sw same time as i got my sticky rod,reason i got the 10000 was 2fold,it suited the rod i have got for stickys(pencil instrument),also i want to get a slightly heavier jigging rod,wont go past 250gm so the reel will have plenty of grunt just need to buy a extra spool for the jig line,an if i decide to upgrade the sticky rod the reel will still be able to handle it.
the spools are bloody expensive though!,bought an extra one for my 5000 that was 250 so you can imagine what a 10000 will be,but i think myself you have the best of both worlds then. ------------- Live life to the fullest... |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 6:01pm
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Hi Rat catcher
I had a balst on a Daiwa Catalina 4500 the other day, nailed a few good fish on jigs.
Nice little reels with smooth drag, has a reasonable retrieve rate to help with the top water and not to quick to be hard work jigging. ------------- www.extremesportfishing.co.nz. Agent for Carpenter, Orion and ASWB products |
Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 7:18pm
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The most pleasure/thrill I reckon would be with a reel and line weight suited to the (realistic) size of fish you will be catching the majority of the time, depth, jig weight...? |
Posted By: Coxy From Gold Coast
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 8:08pm
| The perfect stella if it will be used for jigging more would be a 10,000PG, great reels the stellas they seem to take punishment. |
Posted By: Raptor 650
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 9:49pm
| I went through this same dilemna. Initially I bought a stella 10000SW to use mainly as a top water reel on a popper\stickbait rod which it is perfect for and I love it..I then thought I might as well get a spin jig rod to go with it as a spare when jigging having much preferred the higher speed overhead reels such as accurate 6:1 and torsa 5.9:1. Unfortunately for some reason jigging with a higher speed spin reel such as the stella 10000sw seems harder work than with over heads and I was never really 100% happy. I tried a few demo spin reels in the lower speeds and finally got a stella 20000 which is the ducks nuts for jigging. If I was to try and make a compromise and get something to do both then the japanese domestic market stella 10000 which comes in a lower gear version as well as the high speed would be the one (for some reason however you cant get the lower gear retail in NZ) , If you can source one the low gear version would be great for jigging and top water would be fine as well, as especially with stick baits( as opposed to poppers) most of the action imparted is with the sweep of the rod and the reel just picks up the slack for the next sweep. The stella 8000 I figured do not quite have the line capacity that you need on occasions especially when jigging.If you cant get a low gear 10000 and you want something to do both then I would go for the 20000 even though its a couple of hundred grams heavier( you never know when some silly stripey will turn up).Its worth while looking at the quoted cms of line retrieved per crank on the shimano website for the different stella versions as the true speed is about ratio and spool circumference combined. The trouble with compromises however is you may not be entirely happy with either of its uses. |
Posted By: Coxy From Gold Coast
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 9:58pm
The 8000PG with a 10000 spool would be a good combo 
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Posted By: Raptor 650
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 10:02pm
| Coxy ...I was lead to believe that the spools werent interchangeable on the newer stellas ..mind you I have been wrong plenty of times before according to the wife!! |
Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 10:25pm
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catlina is what im looking into ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: Coxy From Gold Coast
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 10:44pm
I have 6000 spools for my 5000, also the 8000 spool fits the 10000 so I am guessing the 10000 spool fits the 8000 but maybe not. |
Black Phantom wrote:Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 10:51pm
8000 and 10000 spools are interchangeable.  ------------- I always tell the truth about things that never happened |
Posted By: Rat Catcher
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 11:03pm
Ginga, how would the 6500 Catalina go in comparison to the 4500 for topwater?
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Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 2:39am
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I reckon there are four reels I'd use for this job in this price range. Shimano Twinpower SW (not the FC model, the SW which is basically a stella FA), Stella SW, Daiwa Catalina or Saltiga.
All would do the job, there are better prices around for the Catalina which is a slightly detuned Saltiga, (whats a bearing here or there?). The Saltiga and Catalinas are due for an upgrade soon with the new ones coming out.
My pick would be a Stella 8000PG model, with or without a bigger spool the extra 50m or so of line on a 10000 spoool is unlikely to be used unless planning to jig in 200m plus of water. The spool lip on the stellas is the clincher for me, it seems to make the line run off the spool on the casts smoother giving a slightly longer cast. Granted the Daiwa's are probably built a bit stronger with more seals etc, but the stellas are a newer design, lighter (I think, cant remember).
Anyways for a cross over reel jign/popn go a low geared model cause they much nicer to jig with and you can still pop or work a stickbait, just wind faster if you need to,
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Posted By: Rat Catcher
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 7:29am
| As I am jigging in mostly 50 - 120m of water, the line capacity on the 8000 would be sufficient. I may look a bit further into the Daiwa thing but I think I do have my heart set on a Stella. Thanks for the input of this guys, will have to think on this one a little longer before a part with my hard earned cash. |
Posted By: kIWir
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 8:08pm
If you decided to go with 8000 size stella then my suggestion is to find yourself a mint stella 8000FA. No other stella in the class as versatile as this one in my opinion.
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Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 8:21pm
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Posted By: Rat Catcher
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 8:47pm
| Whats the main difference/s between the PG and FA? |
Posted By: Coxy From Gold Coast
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 8:54pm
The PG is the lower geared model and the FA is the older model, I would be looking for the newer model if I was you a lot nicer to cast with, whats your budget ? |
Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:32pm
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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:34pm
| Allot of differences just the average Fisherman wouldn't notice.... read up on them theres been plenty of this discussed all over the web. |
Posted By: Rat Catcher
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 6:07am
Was prepared to pay retail for a new one but have since been thinking I could get a good 2nd hand one spooled and then buy a spare spool (get that spooled) and still have money to go to the pub for a beer - only one though when a Heineken is $8!
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Posted By: wanabe
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 6:50pm
Try Ebay |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 6:52pm
All of them ,they are the best 10000SW or even the Twin power 10000SW ------------- Live Bait , the Lance Armstrong of catching KINGFISH |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 8:07am
| The second hand ones are not much cheaper really,and neither is a new spool.If you were going to pay 450-600 us for a second hand FA you might aswell get get a 10k for 700-800us,or a new one in NZ with a warrenty. |
Posted By: HULK
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2010 at 2:44pm
| I've got an 8000pg and use it mostly for jigging, it holds 240m of 80lb suffix performance braid, read our report "horizontal jigging" in lion red fishing reports to see more. I couldnt catch fish jigging on this particular day but casting worked awesome. 20000 is too big to jig all day with and the other reels are to high geared for jigging, I'd recommend the 8000pg as an all rounder or jigging reel and either 10000 or 18000 for casting as they are much higher speed. They've all got plenty of grunt so thats not an issue |
Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2010 at 3:12pm
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the 20k is the same as the 18k just diffrent speed i dont mind bigger reels the 8k is mean but as stella jigger has said there all all good ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: Rat Catcher
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2010 at 9:27pm
| Think I've settled on an 8000PG, can always sell it if it doesn't suit I suppose. Don'r know how I'm gonna hide spin gear from the Mrs amongst O/H reels! |