poppers of the rocks
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Topic: poppers of the rocks
Posted By: green guy
Subject: poppers of the rocks
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:59pm
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hay guys any of use throw stick baits and poppers of the bricks?? what weight poppers stick baits should i use and what length for a rod i guess a little longer than normal guess i wanta use a longer leader too ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:08pm
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I'm no stick baiter but not sure I'd wanna throw something that expensive around on the bricks going on how many poppers I've lost over the years on the rocks! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: xsspeed
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:25pm
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I have used rapala skitterpops off the rocks, just used a rocky 2 so 8'2"(?)
Just bought a pioneer gt popper rod for the rocks, its around 7'6", just need to accumulate poppers now
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Posted By: Raumatibeach
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:44pm
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If you buy that lathe Green Guy you can turn your own poppers to keep costs down. http://www.fishingmag.co.nz/biggame-kingfish-poppers.htm ------------- Get off my lawn.... |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:47pm
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well,i suppose i am old school and have always used cotten cordells....both sinking and floating....they cast well,have rattle in em and have always used my 6500 and my pink panther(like a rocky 2)...they always go well at the barrier for some reason...so its good enough....use soft baits too with a good wiggle !!!The newer 6500B got a better drag than my original baitrunner and will do ok for the average king swimming around the bricks. P.s in the old days...cotten cordels were considered expensive around 30 odd bucks but when you compare to stick baits prices...they really arnt too bad now are they  cheap on here http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Cotton_Cordell_Pencil_Popper/descpage-CPP.html?large=CBL - http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Cotton_Cordell_Pencil_Popper/descpage-CPP.html?large=CBL Of cause....rapalas are an option and x raps have a great action and can be casted(they have rattles too)
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:54pm
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laidbackdood2 wrote:Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 8:07pm
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not to fused on the price of stick baits might look at something around 8 ft 6 pe 5 8'000-10'000 size reels ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 8:39pm
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I do a fair bit green guy and with a similar spec'd setup to what you mention.
Currently using a custom built rod (killacustoms) on a kilwell blank. Its 8ft2 and PE5 rated. Reelwise, just a cheapy saragosa 8000 spooled with PE5 xzoga braid. Saragosas arent supposed to be the best for jigging (or so I've been told by the pros) but seem to handle the jandle ok for popping. I like this setup, well balanced and can cast even the lighter poppers and baits pretty well. Also use it for skip baits like piper etc. Only have about 15 poppers - variety really of rapala skitter pops, xraps, river2seas, plus a few nonames etc which still seem to work pretty well.
Those daiwa monstermesh 8ft or so rods seem to be alright eh? Prob good value for the $. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 8:49pm
I have a 15-24 kg kilwell jelly tip jig/spin which i got fuji alconites on....7 foot 3 ....might use that to popper off the rocks but reckon it would be best suited to the boat....nice action.Shorter grip suits the boat better i reckon. where did you get your pioneer GT popper rod from? Steth should be picking up those vids this weekend by the way...cheers Jon ' ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 8:59pm
| That website above http://www.fishingmag.co.nz/biggame-kingfish-poppers.htm is good for making poppers. I made 3 poppers from that recipe - cost about $6 each. I haven't used them yet. I intend to make some stick baits too. Beats paying over $30 each for them. |
Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 9:59pm
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sorted good oil there stella congratulation on the new born too ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 10:15pm
Hmmm where stellajiggers post gone? 
Thought was good too ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 10:21pm
same used to toss hookless poppers just the pencil ones they were to intice a shot on the livies ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: timfish
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 11:36pm
| I use 100 - 135 gr poppers, will just depend on your rod and what it likes really. I like tail heavy poppers and stick baits, gillies stickbait ok and nothing beats the burkley killer popper for casting |
Posted By: Torpedo
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 10:29am
| I'd just use the same gear you use on a boat and whatever weight lures match that set. You dont need to cast stupid far as most of the time thats not going to be where the fish are. I didnt do much time on the rocks this year but cast an Action Imports sticky around a fair bit when I did and as per BA, some poppers as teasers as well. That said, the only one I got off the surface was from a skipped piper on popping gear. Bait still works too. |
Posted By: Raumati South
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2010 at 9:06pm
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I use a Shimano T Curve 10 - 15kg rod with a Saltiga Blast reel. A pretty good set up off the rocks. Slightly softer action than some popper rods but it suits me. I stick to rear weighted poppers about 80 - 120grams.
Most of my rock fishing has been when I go to Aussie to visit my son. The gear and poppers get a good work out then.
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Posted By: Kingie69
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 8:19am
 never caught a kingie in august, but thats because i never tried ------------- elusive goat island night fishing club |
Posted By: Jimm
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 1:02pm
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mate we were in waiheke earlier this year on a brick mission and in the afternoon when my mates livebait got eaten without a hookup, i started casting a green rapala 5" (+ 2x treble hooks) from my 10ft beastmaster 10-15kg. Was using about 2m 60lb mono leader attached with a big swivel on 20lb braid mainline.
Casting about 50-60m and then retrieving as fast as my little spinning reel could manage, we were pulling up 60-65cm horse kahawai nonstop must have got more around 6 of them before my arms got tired!! one time when I was pulling in a kahahwai a king came up behind it to check it out what all the splashing was about!!!... unfortunately he didn't eat up the kahawai...
seems like the 2x treble hook had a real good hookup rate - pretty much every strike was a hookup through around the head/mouth area of the fish.
in the end the rapala got pretty munted by falling on the rocks from handling the fish and also casting but it was worth it for the action!
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Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 1:21pm
Was it this one Jim?
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Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 1:26pm
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Snaps also love those lil' shallow running rapalas
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Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 1:35pm
| I caught a snapper on Saturday on a Rapala crank style lure just off Browns Bay. Gonna gove them a good flog on the worm beds this spring. |
Posted By: Jimm
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 5:26pm
yup johnny that's the one! it rattles as it moves in the water too which is an added attractant!
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Posted By: Photofisha
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 12:56pm
| Wouldn't that lure dive down with that bib on front? |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 1:39pm
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X-rap do a range of depths, the ones I use run 4 to 6 ft so no issues when fishing a ledge.
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Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 11:22am
They swim just under the surface. The bib certainly accommodates the slash bait action. 2.4m will be the deepest it will get down too but I can generally see the lure just under the surface when retrieving. I certainly had great success using these over the years. |
Posted By: marriemb
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 12:31am
| cool catch guys |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2010 at 12:25am
This looks pretty cool,i reckon ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: JonnyBlaze
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2010 at 8:54am
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Posted By: Hollah
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 9:25am
| Hi there, i also just bought me some new small poppers as im interested in learning how to fish his was. Ive got those new little berkley ones. The only problem is i just dont know how to use them??lolz. i was just wandering if someone can tell me how you fish with popper??? |
Posted By: cal25
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 9:42am
basically....cast....and wind back in.
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Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 9:44am
| Check the intro to popping post I just put up hollah. |
Posted By: Hollah
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 10:13am
| Thanks guys |
Posted By: Photofisha
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 10:34am
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Just spooled up a VS80a with 50lb braid and finished with a 100lb tough trace. Casting with my 8ft 2 Rocky ltd which has new fuji guides. Hope it will be ok for this style of fishing. Keen to try throwing some of these piper style poppers.  |
Posted By: xsspeed
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 10:56am
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Keen to hear how the V80 goes after you wet a line/hook a biggun, I plan to upgrade from the vs55a to that for poppering when budget allows.
One thing I have noticed on the vs55 is it takes a lot of turns of the drag knob to increase(or decrease) the drag substantially - I find this harder to set 'drag by feel' than on other reels.
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Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 11:07am
Adrian, change your trace from tough to supple, makes for a lot easier casting.
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Posted By: Photofisha
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 11:29am
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[QUOTE=xsspeed]Keen to hear how the V80 goes after you wet a line/hook a biggun, I plan to upgrade from the vs55a to that for poppering when budget allows.
One thing I have noticed on the vs55 is it takes a lot of turns of the drag knob to increase(or decrease) the drag substantially - I find this harder to set 'drag by feel' than on other reels. Super smooth drag on this reel mate and lots of it..guess the test will be when it get hot. Fish City had a 80a for $299.00 1 left i think. Notice that you can get a high speed version 55 and 65 overseas 5:8:1 would be a nice reel for this kinda stuff.
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Posted By: Photofisha
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 11:32am
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Adrian, change your trace from tough to supple, makes for a lot easier casting. You think it makes that much difference Seth? What weight supple trace you use?
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 11:50am
caught a couple of local rats with this off the brix...  ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: Photofisha
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 12:00pm
| Nice looking popper there Ariel...do you keep the trebles on yours? |
Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 12:18pm
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yup, I do. Its a stick bait rather than a popper.
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Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 1:22pm
Depends on how you have set your reel up. PM me you phone number and will give you a call
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:16pm
p.s i use 80 pound supple wind on(two lengths of the rod)and find it casts a lot better....you could even go 60 pound supple if you were inclined.You can then use as is or add a swivell and a 100 pound floro trace of about a metre to metre and a half. I like thet blue popper above..where did you get that bro? p.s make sure you tie your knots well and tight...that supple stuff is a bit slippy
Crush the barbs if you want the option of release.You will still catch them.------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:17pm
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Believe a guy in Whangarei makes them handmade
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:20pm
ok...thanks.....wonder why that hoop coming out at the front?wired through? bit strange that. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:22pm
Did you get the alconites bro? i got mine done with those...very nice ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:25pm
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Yeah it's not actually stainless single strand wire, more a multistrand stainless like that shark trace stuff you can buy, I think. Agree, a bit weird how it's soo long, isn't really gonna help the action of a turned wood popper. Good looking piper like thou. He had them at hunt and fish expo up here and had some nice photos of decent kings, so no doubt work. Guess anything on it's day does. That's fishing. ------------- 6th place in the inaugural Te Kauwhata Regionals paddle crab division |
Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 3:02pm
| These work really well. only available from a few places around NZ. Top Catch Whangarei being one of them. yes the wire is different but doesn't effect the action at all. never had one fail me yet. it is a single strand stainless wire not a multi strand, they are painted over so use a coin to scrap the paint and have a nose. they are wire through wood turned none weighted. have caught allot of fish on these. Mr Kojak will also vouch there worth. |
Posted By: Photofisha
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 4:07pm
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I like thet blue popper above..where did you get that bro?
Baitstation Mairangi Bay has em mate and some different sizes and variations etc. Yeah think i will drop down to 80lb supple gotta be alot smoother through the guides.
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Posted By: Photofisha
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 4:13pm
i dont have any of em prob why i cant tell the difference. |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 3:53pm
Yeah sorry Mike, I wasn't meaning to slam them at all. I actually copied them when I first starting making poppers. And, yes they do work. It's just now that I have some flashy looking poppers and getting into this stickbaiting, I don't think I'll be reaching for them in the bottom of the tackle sack. Then again, I do know some guys who work out at the refinery who used to catch kings out there with a handline, ball sinker and a bit of white rag, no bull, I've seen the pics. Anything or anyone can pull when they are hot for it. ------------- 6th place in the inaugural Te Kauwhata Regionals paddle crab division |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 8:03pm
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2010 at 4:31pm
I use the same stickbait but have it baker rigged. Dont like trebles at all.
Jon - they are about $20 mate depending where ya get them but can get from rebel for a bit less than that when they have their 25% off sales ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2010 at 7:42pm
Thats cheap..thanks Jk ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |