Braid to leader knots
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Topic: Braid to leader knots
Posted By: fish i
Subject: Braid to leader knots
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 2:15pm
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Wondering what knots the GT and topwater fishing faternity use for their spin sets? Not really into bimini twists or twisted leaders. Got a PE3 set I've been using back to back uni, but realise that must have it's limitations. |
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 3:04pm
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I use the knot as per the linked vid below. Called a Tony Pena knot here but seen it called other names elsewhere. Find it very easy to tie and pretty dam strong (havent had it bust on me yet anyway). Casts pretty well too if you can tie it tidily enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNAzz_sG-Jo&playnext_from=TL&videos=GHqIvvTjnCk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNAzz_sG-Jo&playnext_from=TL&videos=GHqIvvTjnCk ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 3:15pm
| make twisted leaders and use a bimini to catspaw. they are the best leaders IMO for casting and will take a huge amount of abuse |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 3:47pm
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Cheers JK Will have a have a tutu with that knot tonight. Have seen it before and thought might as well use a PR knot for jigging, but I'll have a go and see how it packs and forms up with lighter braid for casting. Dunno about the burn thou, I've seen it chaff and compromise braid. As above mozz, I'm sure that leader set up is the biz, but I simply don't have the patience or time for biminis and using drills etc. for my knots, but then I'm not chasing Gt's over shallow coral either. |
Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 3:58pm
| sorry mate didnt read the part about bimini's and twisties but it is the best way. even for kings |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 5:26pm
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i simply use a pr knot, casts pretty well for me and has stood up to the pressure of a few big kings.
Kenji knoishi uses a FG knot and can cast a mile with it. ------------- www.extremesportfishing.co.nz. Agent for Carpenter, Orion and ASWB products |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 5:31pm
mate, what is an FG knot have not heard of it before ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
ginga wrote:Posted By: pommyakker
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 5:51pm
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Go onto you tube and punch FG knot in to search . comes up with heaps ------------- The Devil told me to do it and God said it was Ok with him.... |
Posted By: Ocean Blue
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2010 at 1:33pm
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Any of the following will work well, strong and slim is the key! FG knot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA5zRWvJ_3s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA5zRWvJ_3s PR knot http://www.jigsdirect.com/eMerchantPro/pc/fishing_knots.asp - http://www.jigsdirect.com/eMerchantPro/pc/fishing_knots.asp Mid knot http://www.jigsdirect.com/eMerchantPro/pc/catalog/midknot-lge.gif - http://www.jigsdirect.com/eMerchantPro/pc/catalog/midknot-lge.gif Rowan
------------- Fishing Vanuatu - Trees & Fishes Anglers Lodge | Vanuatu Mothership Adventures | New Caledonia | Malaysia |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2010 at 11:55pm
The Bimini is awesome mate....I didnt fancy it at first but its really easy when youve got it down and a very neat knot too.....Practise in your lounge and you will get it quick  ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 12:09pm
| FG cast good,strong good,easy good. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 12:18pm
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All the top water boys in the USA are using Jerry Brown hollow braid and mono/ leader inserts,no knots and 100% tested/rated.
-------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 1:15pm
| do they just whip over the end of the hollow Kev,or is it the ultimate adjustable leader |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 2:49pm
whip them mate, Basil's windons and "Streamline" leader made by Pametfisher of SFC fame.Will find the link and post it
------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 3:03pm
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Read this link, some very interesting info(these knots are being tested daily on 200-300 BFT with minimal failures. Great info also on different lines/knots and their breaking strengths http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/f172/test-your-braided-line-dont-assume-its-strength-142105.html This is Streamline website http://www.streamlineleaders.com/links/ The major player in the USA market is Basil Pappas, you can find his website at BHPTackle.com Lots of video links of "How to" make wind-ons / topshots etc here ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 3:16pm
| we had 2 fc windon leaders pull from bhp but we must have used over 200 in the space of 6 months |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 3:20pm
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mozz, have you used any of the Streamline ones yet? fc certainly is a lot more "slippery" than normal mono( what weights you using?) ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 3:27pm
| No haven't used the Streamline ones as I started making my own ones. we would use 80-200lb in fluro |
Posted By: Royze
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 5:56pm
| From experience, be careful which knot you chose, knots like the TP, allbright and its variants, if wound on the spool, will take the inserts out of your guides after a short time, if using such knots, make your leader really short, just enough for the drop you like, so the knot isn`t inside the guides, I would look at the FG or PR knots as they seem to be streamlined and used by popper fishermen, |
Posted By: travel1062
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 8:11am
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Giving the growing trend for twisted leaders, wind-ons and incredibly complicated and bulky terminals for GT popping, it almost seems old fashioned now, but the FG is a superb knot and fairly easy to tie when you get the hang of it - critical is retaining tension when weaving. After lots of practice I can even tie this not on a very bumpy boat and in near darkness. I use the original Japanese way of tying this knot and have avoided the various "improved FG knot" techniques (just check YouTube to find "improved" variants, and you will; find slightly pompous and mostly American guys telling you how they have improved this knot ). I pop for GT using PE8-10 with a fairly simple set up: braid - FG knot to shock leader 100lb-150 lb depending - leader to bb swivel with a uni knot - swivel to 400lb minimum split ring - split ring to popper. Poppers always rigged with single hooks (curse those bloody trebles). The Aussie GT enthusiasts especially would say that is too light and simple for monster GTs... I ain't so sure about that, and as with a jigging terminal set up, I like to keep it simple. But hey, I dont pop monster black GTs in New Caledonia  (yet). |