Holden Rodeo Feedback
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Topic: Holden Rodeo Feedback
Posted By: Dohboy
Subject: Holden Rodeo Feedback
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 1:29pm
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I am looking at getting a new tow wagon very soon and want something not to old. I have been looking at the Holden Rodeo LT , they look and drive quite nice but not to sure if they will last the distance. I can get a 2005 with 80,000 kms with all the extras for $30,000 or a 2007 (common rail) for around $32,000 with no canopy(they cost $3000). Does anyone hear toe a 1900kg boat with one of these? and has anyone had problems with them. Thanks Dean ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 1:30pm
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PS i am looking at a 4x4
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Posted By: Screaming Reels
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 2:14pm
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Be warned NZ could have problem on their hands. Common rail diesels at about a 150k on the clock are doing engine damage due to our qaulity of Diesel we got. It is missing a additive that common rail engines require. Mainly Toyotas but have heard of a few Mitsys also. ------------- The Car Doctor Mangakino |
Posted By: bonus
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 3:22pm
| Hi I have a 3.0l tdi Bighorn around 210,000 ks It is the 4JX1 engine, loads of recalls and problems with deisel injector leaks. Have a look at http://forum.australia4wd.com/index.php - http://forum.australia4wd.com/index.php ? particularly if you want a holden. |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 3:47pm
my last commom rail mitsi ute did 250,000 the one ive got now has done 150,000 with no problems relating to fuel what are you talking about... my grader has got 10,000 hours on it its a common rail...what a load of cr ap... ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Screaming Reels wrote:Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 4:00pm
My sister had one Dean,it was a very noisy engine from brand new and suffered from lack of leg room in the rear..compared to other utes it was relativly cheap to service(some common rails you can only run synthetic oil and its expensive) power wise it was ok but not in the same ball park as the hilux or my triton... if i was you i would be going to the field days and trying to buy a brand new run out model ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: DIY!
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 4:15pm
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Wayne how do you rate those tritons? is it 3.2 and 4x4? what weight are you towing? ------------- http://www.actionstations.co.nz Berkley 2009 and 2010 S/B champ |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 4:28pm
Would love to but dont have the extra $15,000 ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 4:56pm
i rate them very highly,they had a few issues in the early stages of introduction but they were sorted under warranty.they are very expensive to service as they need doing every 5000 ks to start with..its a 4x4 and tows the boat very well ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 4:59pm
what about the basic model ??? should be around 33 to 35k ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: madspaz
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 5:10pm
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Mum bought a brand new 09 triton november last year. Cost was around 35K with towbar/bullbars/torneau cover/tough deck etc. (no canopy) 2WD though, 2.8 (i think) common rail diesel turbo. Tows my mates 15 footer glass boat with ease. Havent towed anything bigger. Think theyre rated up to 2500kg braked. Pretty decent car, no complaints as of yet. Good for the price and brand new.
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Posted By: lingee
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 6:51pm
| Hi mate have a 2003 and tow alot . 2wd mate she has been a dream wagon |
Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 9:33pm
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we used to have rodeos at work - cant say much about long term costs and reliability - but purely from a comfort point of view much noisier than the toyotas and nissan.
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Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 10:17pm
| Holden. Basically isuzu technology, nuf said... |
Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 10:19pm
No, actually quite true - we are having quite an issue with the quality of diesel in NZ with a higher than average rate of engine damage due to fuel issues.
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Posted By: bluesignature
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 10:24pm
| if our fuel is missing an important additive what is it and can we not purchase it and add it ourselves when we fill up (sounds like leaky homes aii over again) i run a stx nissan and a common rail tractor wouldnt want either to stop |
Posted By: hogdog
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:24am
| have a couple at work, can tow 1900kg easy, quite noisey and cheaply built though compared to the likes of a hilux, no problems with diesel/common rail either, got a couple of common rail utes with well over 250000km with no problems |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 10:06am
so why is this not brought to the attention of the people using diesel in nz ??? the company i work for uses 100s of thousands of litres of diesel a year.. my small part of our campany uses 1000 to 1500 litres of diesel a day,i have 7 machines that are common rail from a mitsi ute to volvo and merc diesel powered machines..they have never missed a beat due to fuel,shurly the amount of fuel we use we would of had issues by now ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 10:17am
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of2fsh... Wayne, what brand of deisel are you mainly using? I have been told the only good deisel in NZ is Gull, all others need additives.
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Posted By: hogdog
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 10:19am
| we mainly use BP, we also use 100's of thousands of litres a year |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 10:24am
mobil diesel delivered to our yard,shell delivered to site by mini fuels,caltex and mobil thru truck stops.i work right through out the country from top to bottom and have used diesel from everywhere along the way this is why im really finding this hard to fathom...why are thier not disclaimers on the fuel pumps to take any liability away from the fuel companies ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: jake10
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 10:28am
| i was told the same thing by a group of dudes im dealing with through work , they are fitters from gough gough and hamer , they were telling me theres an issue with modern common rail diesels and our diesel here , they reckoned its going to hit the fan, as up to now it hasnt been a biggie nor widely known ? apparently nothing wrong with engine design but our diesel isnt clean enough ( their words not mine ) and warranty jobs are coming home to roost . |
Posted By: Rob Optimist
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 10:48am
| I've heard that our diesel is not that flash but no hard evidence as yet, hope its not like leaky homes and ends up being a major. That new direct injection is not cheap and a lot of pumps are not servicable, replacement can be 10 to 15K. Make sure your diesel is clean and get it from a place with a high turnover of fuel, also keep records of where you purchase it so that if you get a dud fill you can have ago at them. I know they paid out for a bad batch awhile ago. |
Posted By: Raumatibeach
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 11:06am
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Three of the diesels in the company I work for filled up at the same service station and got a crap batch of diesel.They reciepts to show that they only fill up at that station and they got their repairs paid for only if they signed some sort of confidentiality waiver. http://www.3news.co.nz/Contaminated-fuel-costing-vehicle-owners-thousands/tabid/423/articleID/137146/Default.aspx By Juliet Speedy A car buyers' guide is warning motorists against buying diesel vehicles – unless they really have to. The call comes amidst growing concerns about diesel contamination in New Zealand, a problem that is said to be damaging and destroying diesel engines all over the country. North Island farmer Peter McRae was once the owner of a brand new diesel powered Toyota Hilux ute – but he was glad to get rid of it. When it broke down not long after he bought it, he took it up with Toyota. “I sent it away and Toyota came back, they didn’t want to know about it, it was fuel contamination,” he says. Mr McRae says he is one of many he knows who has spent thousands of dollars repairing their vehicles after contaminated fuel ruined the engine. His ute was only three years old. “It cost me $8000, or thereabouts, to get it fixed and I was quite gutted,” he says. “The vehicle had only done 50,000km." Those in the industry say fuel contamination by a diesel bug, water or dirt is a big and growing problem, and the new diesel cars flooding the market can’t handle it. “We’ve dealt with 100 cases over the last six months, and it’s varied in its severity,” says mechanic Graeme Key. Clive Matthew-Wilson, editor of the Dog and Lemon magazine, says oil companies have admitted the problem through confidential payouts. “We know that they have made a number of substantial settlements with very angry people, who have spent up to $30,000 getting their engines rebuilt,” he says. BP admits contamination can be a problem, but say any problems have been minor and payouts have been minimal. “If the product is deemed to be not up to standard because of something to do with water in the fuel or, we will stand by our product and get that remedied immediately,” says Neil Green of BP. De-bug filters are now on the market to go in diesel engines, but experts say this might not always fix the problem. “Don’t touch diesel vehicles unless you’re a commercial operator and doing at least 15,000km – but preferably 25,000km – a year,” says Mr Matthew-Wilson. For the average motorist, he says, the risk just isn’t worth it. ------------- Get off my lawn.... |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 11:09am
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spoke to a mechanic at work about this and hes seen no hard evidence at this stage that thier is an issue with the diesel causing damage to engines,(hes heard the rumours)we do have very bad quality diesel in nz and have had issues with water contamination in the past....in his words "what can you do,we need diesel" and untill thiers a problem that can be contributed to bad diesel we can only carry on doing what were doing
------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 3:06pm
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/features/2710347/Coming-clean-on-dirty-diesel - http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/features/2710347/Coming-clean-on-dirty-diesel this is interesting to read ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 3:40pm
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damb that is a good read,ill forward that on to the boss
------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 3:44pm
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Just on the whole petrol v diesel thing if the ute i am looking at does 9lt/100kms and the petrol version does 15lt/100kms the cost should be as follows. Diesel @ $1.15/lt + RUC ( $48.00 / 100kms which is $4.80/ 100kms)= $15.15/100kms Petrol @ $1.75/lt =$26.25/100kms If i am correct why do people say the a diesel cost more to run if you dont do over 15000kms/year  ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 3:48pm
Yeh mate it took a while . I think the big point they make is for anyone with a common rail diesel get a good water separator and kill the diesel bug before it gets hold of your system. ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 3:51pm
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Add 16 cents a k for servicing based on $600 every 10,000ks ..less if its out of warranty and you do it your self.Parts for a service on my ute from BNT is $205 including a new airfilter ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 3:54pm
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I also think that the reason most people dont have a problem with larger diesels is they have this pre-installed. My old man runs a 60Ft boat with a single 450hp Cummings the filters he uses are huge and he treats the fuel every time he tops up (its big tank as when fill he has over 2500 mile range ) ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 3:56pm
Its still cheaper ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 4:00pm
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Have a look at this site also. http://www.dieselsolutions.co.nz/index.shtml - http://www.dieselsolutions.co.nz/index.shtml ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: xport
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 4:12pm
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Had a 2002 LT Rodeo last year, it was the 2wd model on the 4wd chassis. 3.0 lt turbo intercooler had plenty of low down torque...was towing a 32 footer with it...only reason for changing was needed low ratio for pulling boat out of ramp (was getting hard on clutch) Also have towed the same boat with a 3.0 Hilux (mums) and a Mazda Bounty 2.5 (sons) and neither compared to the rodeo......I jus wished I had of gone for another rodeo (4wd) have an old terrano now.
Also have a mate with the new Colorado and that tows his 26ft alloy jus fine............
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Posted By: Screaming Reels
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 4:47pm
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 5:11pm
Alan is this a fuel problem or a engine problem? ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Screaming Reels
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 5:47pm
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It is a fuel problem that turns into a engine problem. New Zealand has 1 of the worsts fuels in the world but what would i know 26 years of working on cars/engines. At work we have gone to court on behalf of dealers and buyers over fuel related problems.I would not of posted my original post if i did not beleave it. ------------- The Car Doctor Mangakino |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 5:56pm
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So what can we do just dont ever by a common rail diesel or can we do things to prevent this from happening?
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Posted By: CapnHook
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 6:02pm
What is your implication re Isuzu technology ?? ------------- If you're not on the edge you're taking up too much room. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 6:12pm
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I got a late model Mitsi Triton its done 24k now bloody awesome truck 750k $70 gas yip love it, had a bugger truck a few years back got it almost new pffft, yip love my mitsi
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Posted By: STEVIE WONDER
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 6:20pm
Hi BA wanted to buy a Triton until this report last week.Wondered if you knew about it.not to sully what you said but i think it's a minor problem.Hope some of the mechs on here can shed more light as i would still buy a Triton http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motoring/3773469/Mitsubishi-Triton-vehicles-recalled">http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motoring/3773469/Mitsubishi-Triton-vehicles-recalled ------------- ONLY WHEN THE LAST TREE HAS DIED AND THE LAST RIVER BEEN POISONED AND THE LAST FISH BEEN CAUGHT WILL WE REALISE THAT WE CANNOT EAT MONEY. NATIVE AMERICAN CREE |
Posted By: andy2fish
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 6:25pm
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To me sounds like a minor problem as long as it is checked and then could be done on any service schedule ------------- If only I could fly |
Posted By: Screaming Reels
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 6:47pm
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Not a minor fix sorry to say sanandy who would want a huge bill for checking fuel pump at every service. Dont get me wrong common rail is the future but not untill we get our crap fuel sorted out. If i owned 1 i would be making sure i got the vehicle serviced by the schedule on time so if under warranty you wont have a issue.What we suggest to our customers is every 5 tank fills add a additive to fuel tank just helps lubricate inside fuel pump. ------------- The Car Doctor Mangakino |
Posted By: andy2fish
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 6:54pm
I think we have are wires crossed SR as I was talking about the suspension fault with the loss bolt on the news item. I agree with you that any overhaul of diesel pumps, injectors are very expensive being a diesel mechanic. We have not had to many issues with the problem but if you are always dealing with them you would know better than me on this model engine  ------------- If only I could fly |
Posted By: Screaming Reels
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:02pm
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Cheers must find that suspension fault you talking about on the news item.You being a diesel mechanic what would you suggest as a additive to lubricate the injector pump and injectors. ------------- The Car Doctor Mangakino |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:12pm
What additive are you adding Alan? ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Screaming Reels
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:20pm
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We are using a Wynns product cant remember its name will check tommorrow. It just helps lubricate. But we advise to use every 5 tank fills. ------------- The Car Doctor Mangakino |
Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:21pm
Izusu make reasonably good heavy transport vehicles. Their utes drive like heavy transport vehicles. That is an advantage for some users, and a negative for others that don't require truck like attributes.
Holden rodeo was originally an Isuzu knockoff (or re-badged Isuzu), and the parentage really hasn't been designed out yet. They are fairly heavy on the suspension and steering, quite tough in the driveline and reasonably good load carrying for design and class. Plastic-feeling cabin trim and fittings, and sqeaky and rattley.
No implication at all - why do you ask?
As far as NZ diesel, it's as much a storgae issue from old crappy tanks is it is a fuel issue. Our fuel has only recently gone to the low-sulphur specs, so there is a way to go yet before we get true reliable diesel fuel. The sulphur in the fuel acted as a lubricity enhancer, basically good for pumps and injectors and once you take the sulphur out the environment is better but the fuel isn't so you end up with more parts damage and wastage and rubbish getting dumped. Go figure.
As far as diesel treatment additives, any additive that offers enhanced lubricity as well as a biocide will help. As well as regularly checking tanks for contamination and water, by drawing off the dead bottom of the tank. The contamination comes from the storage and handling of the fuel, not the source. It's a factor of the amount of water we have in the atmosphere and the age of our tanks especially farm and old machinery...
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Posted By: Vissie
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:24pm
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Some of these comments that's been made here about CDI systems are true and crap, I work near every day on CDI diesel vehicles, If they are maintained as they should there will be no problem, regardless the fuel quality that comes from our pumps, what causes the most damage to CDI systems is when people run them out of diesel that causes damage to the high pressure pump and then effect the injectors, or by accidental put petrol instead of diesel and run them until they stop. I do for my own vehicle use additives on my own vehicle after I done a service and use 100ml of two stroke oil to a full fuel tank as lubrication time to time, but have to say my vehicle is not a CDI. ------------- The }<(("> will bite when you lease expect it... |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:30pm
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so Vissie what do you recommend we put in our fuel.
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:32pm
yip saw it mate mine is a later model than those asked for, it will be checked next service. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: andy2fish
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:41pm
Same here SR memory problems  will look at what we use in are diesel engines we normally get it in 20ltr containers. Ours kills the bugs and does more been along time since I read the list last I should know but so many things to do and remember.------------- If only I could fly |
Posted By: andy2fish
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:47pm
We Have had a few put petrol in there tanks but so far with a drained tank and flush no seen damage has happened so far. So far this has happened about 20 times while I have worked on diesels . Also if large fuel tanks are keept full less likelt to get condensation in them if they were nearly empty. ------------- If only I could fly |
Posted By: Vissie
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:54pm
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Only keep diesel systems well maintained and use some sort of lubricant after a few tanks now and then, as I said I use 100ml of two stroke oil to a full tank of gas. If anyone is concerned about the diesel Quality just do a diesel filter change more often. ------------- The }<(("> will bite when you lease expect it... |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:02pm
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Well its been very good reading so far but back to what i asked. I have seen these 2 which i like. Truck 1 has all the extras i want but is a 2005 with only 96kw, that said i can put a chip in it and get 117kw which would be a lot better. This is not a common rail motor. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=284196247 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=284196247 Truck 2 is a 2007 common rail but i want a canopy and running board cost anywhere between $1500 second hand and $4000 brand new. What to do what to do? ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: paw
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:11pm
If your 2nd choice is going to end up at 35,000 plus I would ring around for fieldays specials on Ford. Mazda and Mitzi etc as they may not be a hell of a lot more with full warranty etc. I think Mitzi are talking 41 at the moment. ------------- sleeping is a symptom of caffeine deprivation |
Posted By: Screaming Reels
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:12pm
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Sorry Dohboy for kinda ambushing your original question i outa this thread now. ------------- The Car Doctor Mangakino |
Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:14pm
That's a common misnomer, fuel filters of 'X' filtration (say 3 micron) will only filter out 65-70% of particles bigger than 3mics. They will not remove all particles from the fuel flow.
The issue with CDI engines is that ANY particulate including water molecules can cause them to sh-1-t themselves. At the current level of filtration technology we can't adequately protect the fuel supply from crap that can damage these engines, whereas the older technology engines used to start running like a hairy dog and then stop the new CDI fuel pumps are suffering internal fuel pump wear and damage and then running like a hairy dog and stopping.
Once damaged the only way to resurrect the engine's performance is very expensive fuel system repairs. The CDI pumps are running in some cases up to 85,000-100,000psi, whereas the older tech pumps were runing from 5,000-30,000psi depending on motor brand and age. It doesn't take too much damage to a CDI pump to drop the delivered pressure down below the operating requirements...
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Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:24pm
2005 is an old wagon and the price is rather high, I brought a Jan'08 Navara 3L with 15K on the clock for 34,500 with balance of new car warranty (I brought it in 2009 at a year old). With utes, they are scarce second hand and the dealers know it and scalp the hell out of the prices. If you are going 5-6 years old you only want to be paying 22-24K IMO. For that sort of cash (30K) I would be wanting something at the 3-4 year age, mine is now 3.5years old and on the books at 28,500.
If you are going to 35K you might as well buy new (again IMO) at around 41K. As far as the chip, may not be a good idea if you are using it as a heavy tow vehicle or off-road as you will pay for the extra power with accelerated engine wear and possibly early brakages and repairs. If you are only using it for light duties (not towing) you might find the extra power worthwhile on open road driving but with a 4x4 with big 30+" tyres the standing 1/4mile is never going to be flash due to the gear ratio driving through those big tyres and the losses through the extra driveline components.
The Nissan for example has one of the highest two and carrying ratings which is why I brought it, but it's not the quickest or most comfortable vehicle on the road. It does however go up every hill at 100Km/h and it has one of the largest trays and toughest chassis in it's class. You get what you pay for...
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 9:13pm
is this ute to replace the light truck you had or for the family ???? ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 9:32pm
Alan dont worry you started all this and i for one am glad you did as i have found out a few things i did not know. ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 9:44pm
I am going to use this as the family/ tow wagon to replace my Nissan safari, its just getting to old (1991) and i am also going to replace the wifes car (Honda CRV) with a smaller car the likes of a Suzuki Swift. This is the other Holden i am looking at http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=294196827 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=294196827 After ringing around he is only getting $27000 as a trade so i was going to offer him $29000. ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 9:48pm
Is it a DX or STX Nissan? ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 9:51pm
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looks like a nice ute ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 7:54am
Mate has a STX Nissan,got 3.5ton towing capability and great wagon to drive
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 8:31am
They are nice and i would love one but for one with low kms ( under 80000) and no more than 3 years old they are about $38,000 so just to much for this poor boy ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 8:32am
Neither mine is a D22 3L (yes the terrible, dissolving ZD30 ...). The d40 stx is ok, but it doesn't appear to do the full tow capacity with the auto as yet. Jury is out awaiting further proof...
As far as the manual D40's, the lack of the torque converter on a 2.5L diesel has the same problem as any other small diesel. Sure, it produces a lot of power but all at high RPM with only a fraction of the torque at low revs. Translation - it's a pig to get a heavy trailer off the line on a steep hill start like there is in most cities and boat ramps without stalling the thing. Plus they generally smoke like steamtrains.
The other thing I don't like about the current line of light utes across most manufacturers is they have tried to make them drive more car-like and sacraficed all of the load carrying and off-road capabilities. That's why Nissan were forced to put the D22 chassis back into production - the D40 kept breaking.
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 8:49am
God this is not easy , i was hopping to just go out and buy a new car but there is so much to think about.I have a 6.7 surtees that when fully loaded is only 1900kg at the most do you think the holden will handle it ok, what about the mitsi tritons they have a good rep? ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: paw
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 9:21am
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This looks like a good buy-just wonder why it has had two owners http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/auction-289869085.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/auction-289869085.htm I have one the same and very happy with it. 3 tonne tow rated. I tow a 580 McLay with mine and purrs along ------------- sleeping is a symptom of caffeine deprivation |
Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 9:56am
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Horrible horrible utes. Worst I have ever driven. way to much road noise, hard ride and uncomfortable.
Wouldnt touch one with a barge pole.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 10:00am
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Agree Bushpig, mate has a 2.5T Bounty, has heaps of pulling power.
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 10:23am
Now thats the kind of feedback i was after. Going out now to test drive the following BT 50 Triton Rodeo all 2007 so we will see ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 10:54am
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Dont do anything withouit calling me first. If its new you are going for then call me for a price. I buy direct or at major fleet in most cases and will pass that on to you. If its 2nd hand then let me see what ex lease stuff is available. Ill start having a looksee now.
Agree with Bushpig, Bounty, Nissan, I found Phantomdeviants Ford Ranger which was impressive to say the least which is a lot coming from me as I hated Ford for so long. Stay away from the Triton
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Posted By: wetdream
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 11:09am
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Get a Nissan or Toyota Dean you wont regret it...PS the Swifts are one of the best cars on the market Band or Buck IMO had on of those and loved it. ------------- Like us on: facebook/stanleysigns.com |
Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 11:48am
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BT50 and Ranger are the same vehicle chassis with different body parts and badging. Come outa the same factory...
Pick of the litter for me is anything with a large literage engine for sheer torque (3L+), and by Nissan, Ford/Mazda or Toyota (although the Toyota's are expensive for what you get). Mitsi's don't do it for me, the tray's look small and the styling is crap. Gimme a man's ute not a curvy girls' car... Holdens and Izusu's drive really crap and decay into rattly heaps but on the plus side don't seem to break easily.
For the price, how about:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/Bounty/auction-294369033.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/Bounty/auction-294369033.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Nissan/Navara/auction-294120586.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Nissan/Navara/auction-294120586.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/bounty/auction-295285626.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/bounty/auction-295285626.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/Hilux/auction-295366545.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/Hilux/auction-295366545.htm
As suggestions. For what you seem to want I would guess that you might not get the benefit of buying a newer ute, in terms of depreciation and cost of running. An older vehicle that has a good service history might be worth considering, and that gives you more to spend on boat toys...
The Courier/Bounty is probably the only ute with a 2.5L engine that I would consider at the mo, they seem to tow really well and produce reasonable torque at low revs even though it's a 2.5L engine.
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Posted By: bluesignature
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 5:39pm
| i have an stx tow a 2.2ton boat no problems at all towed it to haast a couple of months a ended up passing campervans going up hill must be embassing being passed by a ute towing a boat when we launch and retrieve the boat i allways turn the knob put it in 4 low real easy and gentle pulling boat out just towed a 3 ton bobcat home today that was not much of a challenge either allways been a fan of nissan |
Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 9:53pm
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Posted By: Under Taker
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 10:26am
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Hi Dean
I had a 2004lt rodeo, .
if your towing ya boat, make sure it is auto, i had manual and towing the haines clutch couldn't handle it. ended up selling it as it didn't like heavier boats.
cheers dave
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Posted By: Tinfish
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 10:47am
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Have a mate with a STX Ute and you need a neck brace to stop your head bouncing. My brother had a Rodeo in his business and it lasted 3 months before the plastics started falling apart. I am on my 7th Ford Courier/ Ranger and have not found anything to beat it on comfort and power. My boat is 2.6 tonne and it handles it very well. ------------- Stand up to be seen, speak up to be heard. BUT shut up to be appreciated. |
Posted By: paw
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 11:23am
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Whatever you get check the rating on the towbar.Many of the standard ones are only rated to 1600kg and even some heavy duty ones are only 2 tonne rating even if your ute has a 3 tonne rating.. this could invalidate your insurance if anything went wrong. ------------- sleeping is a symptom of caffeine deprivation |
Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 2:26pm
Should never have read this post yesterday. Went home and filled up with diesel at my local service station and five minutes later on comes a light indication a problem with the injection system... FAAAAARRRRRRK 
Thats murphys law for you. 06 Diesel Suzuki Grand Vitara, cant wait to see how much this is going to cost me. Have rung the company an lodged a complaint but what do you know, yet to receive a phone call.
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Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 6:49pm
think thats a renault engine. not known for enduring reliability. ------------- No disintegrations! |
Posted By: Busted!
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 8:10pm
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 6:45am
well that sucks ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |