Treble hooks on poppers/diving lures
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Topic: Treble hooks on poppers/diving lures
Posted By: Standard Deluxe
Subject: Treble hooks on poppers/diving lures
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 10:56am
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Just going through and tidying up all my fishing gear, upgrading all my split rings and discarding old rusty stuff from the dark corners. Amazing how much gear you can collect over time... Actually thought for the first time the missus might have a point, a very brief thought I might add! Anyway, I'm standing here looking at about 8 different poppers and bibbed diving lures. I've never liked using trebles which puts be off using the lure types although when i have used them they have been great fun! I was wondering if I should take off all the hooks and replace them with a similar set up to the jigs where the poppers just get snapped on and off. Do the trebles (located mid and read of the popper) add to the action of it? Looks like they would add to it hence this post. Any comments? Liam
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Posted By: andy2fish
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 11:08am
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I would say go to a single hook as to a treble one.
Main reason damage to smaller fish caught with them and takes time to unhook a fish as Ihad this happen yesterday and will be switching all mine to single hook. Some have a 2 hook joined with a strong line about a inch abart which also seem to work fine and easier to unhook fish quickly ------------- If only I could fly |
Posted By: Standard Deluxe
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 11:28am
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Cheers bud, I'm looking at it for the same reason. Just not sure if a single hook will change the action too much in the water? Also is it then a single hook mid and rear of just in the mid section? What I was considering was a solid ring on the end of the leader with the kevlar line and hook on it and split ring connection to the poppers. That way the lures have no inherent hooks of their own and easy to store and maintain. Just no idea if they will work rigged like that. Guess there is only one way to really find out!
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Posted By: andy2fish
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 12:14pm
If you do a search on here the subject has been up a few times for the same reason. A few have some pictures to show how they arrange the hooks. Carnt remember the topic name now as some time ago I was looking but trial and error seems the why to go. Its nice to have alittle knowledge on jigs, spinners ect but im like you on a learning curve. ------------- If only I could fly |
Juicy Fruit wrote:Posted By: seabass510
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 12:55pm
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Nomad charters over in Australia have been rigging poppers like this for a while and all reports come back with rave reviews.
It is pretty much the leader to a solid ring with a assist hook free swinging off this ring. The lure is connected to a split ring from this solid ring. If they run another hook on this lure it seems to be a single on the tail of the lure.
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Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 3:54pm
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Baker rig in the middle with a single on the tail, is a good way to go. The claw doubles aren't bad either or just crush the barbs on the trebles for less fish damage. couple of old threads http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=35289&KW=baker&PN=2&title=popping-casting - http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=35289&KW=baker&PN=2&title=popping-casting http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=37798&KW=baker&title=topwater-bait-hooks-and-stuff - http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=37798&KW=baker&title=topwater-bait-hooks-and-stuff ------------- I always tell the truth about things that never happened |
Posted By: Standard Deluxe
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 5:22pm
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Awesome thanks guys, that was some reading on the threads Sid! Seems I am way under gunning it with my trusty old Shimano Taipan and 6500 baitrunner haha. Does the trick on the kings I have caught around the bouys in Auckland but I cant cast it for hours thats for sure. Might be something else to start collecting the gear for - just when I thought I had everything haha! Going to rig like Seabass said, that way I only have to connect to the split ring and add a hook in the guts, so no untangling trebles while kings smash piper at my feet.
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Posted By: Nirai
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 8:03pm
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Use trebles! with crushed barbs or without what ever floats your boat
Pretty much every popper and stick bait made are designed to swim with trebles period. Personally I do not like baker rig, what ever Nomad say. If you must use singles, look at the Decoy Sargent & or Owner ST-77 back eye hooks on the tail only & still run a treble on the belly. Tight Lines ------------- "Gunrunner" Surtees 610 Game Fisher current *"Double Barrel" Seacat 635 "Good Riddance!" *"Seriola" Surtees 485 CC Retired with honours! |
Posted By: Ritual Groove Meister
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 9:17am
Two single jig hooks in the middle done up w a small cable tie and
trimmed. Slightly longer live bait hook off the back. Pretty standard
set up for serious tropo popper/stick bait/ rapala fishing. Like so; A lot of charter operators wont let you use trebles. |
Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 9:48am
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ive had soo many failures on sj41 hooks i wouldnt bother now. i like the decoys. another thing is taking trebles off poppers and bibbed lures can affect the action, especially on bibbed lures as they can track and pop out of the water. Some poppers require heavier hooks to stay in the water when you are working them to stop them flipping out. st66 owners are one of the best and very affordable |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 5:11pm
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I'll be putting trebles back on my mini- poppers and will crush one or two of the barbs. Definitely stuffs up the action as the kevlar assists I've been using turn the poppers on there side. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 6:11pm
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Mozz you spot on, some of the poppers and stick baits are desgined and balanced use treble hooks. When I order my stick baits and poppers I always make sure what kind of hooks that they can use. Eg: some carpenter poppers and stick baits are balanced for trebles, if you want to fish single hooks on them you have to get the ones that balanced for single. otherwise it will affect the lure swimming action. -------------   WWW.YEEHAA.CO.NZ (09)5705058 30 Jellicoe Road Panmure |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 7:09pm
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I ahte trebles and for a bloody good reason, many stitches to remove one form my hand. BUT!!! the problem is many of the best stick baits are designed to be run with 2 sets of trebles, i just had stick baiut legend Kenji Konishi out with me for 5 days and this topis was discussed(as much as possible with language barrier) in detail and he showed me some different actions of lures with or without trebles and his lures seemed to just roll around the place without them.
Once i relented and let him run trebles we got some good fish. ------------- www.extremesportfishing.co.nz. Agent for Carpenter, Orion and ASWB products |
Posted By: andrem
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 9:46pm
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My question is if you are using nomad stickbaits and poppers would they not be designed to run the hooks in the way they recommend on there website?
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Posted By: Ritual Groove Meister
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 10:08pm
| Try old wooden bed legs, no issues there |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 10:17pm
picture ? |
Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 11:00pm
the nomad poppers are avaliable under so many different names around the world and have been around for quite a while now so I dont think its the case that they only be fished the way nomad charters fish them.
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Posted By: Bunzo
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 8:30pm
Go Barbless, much better for the fish and ginga's hand  , Nomad practiced this before abolishing trebles completely with great success, even their singles and 'Baker' rigged doubles are barbles or have quashed barbs.Some stickbaits need the belly treble to work effectively, the resistance on the hook works as a pivotal point to give the stickbaits their below surface action, a prime example is the Nomad [Heru] Ulua, although an assist hook on the nose helps it get get down and boogie  .------------- 
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 11:31am
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Some people like trebles, some dont. How about a compromise, doubles. I liked these strong looking doubles, put them on some poppers I have made. With a relatively narrow front face, it's like a Popper-stick? Haven't tried them in action yet. One thing - they are certainly far cheaper than bought poppers, cost me about $7 each. |
Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 12:19pm
Oops forgot the picture - here tis -
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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 2:53pm
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Whilst doubles and trebles of today are strong and of better quality and of course some lures (minnow/stick/popper) are designed around them I just hate the damage they do to small Kings and releasable fish and with these type of lures we use two.
So I would rather run singles or at least one double if I have to.
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:44pm
| if you are having trouble with the weight on your poppers and stickbaits by using singles then change to smaller Hayes hook's. they are pretty heavy and work well on lures that need more weight in the water. |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 7:58pm
crush all the barbs dood and be careful to use trebles of similar size if upgrading to owner(very strong) ones for example...If you go bigger it could ruin the action of the popper
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2010 at 8:23pm
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if you think about it the treble hooks is creating drag in the water which in turn keeps the lure running the the right way up... this helps the action of the lure do what it designed to do best.... so adding weigh to these areas to counter the removal of the trebles is recommended... either you replace it so the single hook is pointed down in a fixed position ie rubber band or some other fixture grove in the body.... trail and error is the key, get it right or your wasting your time.... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |