how to tie Fluorocarbon trace to braid
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Topic: how to tie Fluorocarbon trace to braid
Posted By: sappercatcha
Subject: how to tie Fluorocarbon trace to braid
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2010 at 9:24am
what knot do i use and how do i tie it? some kind of line joiner knot only thing is i dont know how to tie any
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Posted By: Ces
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2010 at 9:30am
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google bimini twist and yucatan knot. the first one to double the braid, and the second one to join the doubled braid to the fluorocarbon
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2010 at 9:40am
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I find the easiest, quickest (especially when in the boat) and most secure for me is the Albright knot, fold over the mono, thread the braid through the loop, twist up the mono lines 10 times, keep twisting back down and out through the mono loop again. That's it.
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Posted By: Softbaiter
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2010 at 9:43am
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used many knots, but keep going back to the back to back uni knot.
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Posted By: strx7
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2010 at 10:14am
softbaiter wrote:
used many knots, but keep going back to the back to back uni knot.
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Me too. 6 turns of mono and about 15 turns on the braid, heaps of saliva, pull it up carefully and away you go.
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Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2010 at 10:22am
bimini and a yucatan work well for me taught myself to tie a bimini using my big toe as the loop holder as I always have access to it 
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Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2010 at 4:35pm
teaching my self the Albright knot for quick and easy in the boat also will teach my self back to back uni thanks for your help
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Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2010 at 5:06pm
EditB wrote:
bimini and a yucatan work well for me taught myself to tie a bimini using my big toe as the loop holder as I always have access to it  |
That's tempting fate bro 
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Posted By: Nigel 33104
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2010 at 9:16pm
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The fastest and to date never let me down is the figure of eight for the double and the double uni for the wind on leader
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Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2010 at 10:48pm
Espresso wrote:
I find the easiest, quickest (especially when in the boat) and most secure for me is the Albright knot, fold over the mono, thread the braid through the loop, twist up the mono lines 10 times, keep twisting back down and out through the mono loop again. That's it.
| i find this to be the best knot easy to tie and very strong havent had one let go yet
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Posted By: trevor26913
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2010 at 10:55am
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five turn surgon have a look at the kerckly vidios
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Posted By: Banjo
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2010 at 9:45pm
green guy wrote:
Espresso wrote:
I find the easiest, quickest (especially when in the boat) and most secure for me is the Albright knot, fold over the mono, thread the braid through the loop, twist up the mono lines 10 times, keep twisting back down and out through the mono loop again. That's it. | i find this to be the best knot easy to tie and very strong havent had one let go yet |
+1 for me too been using it for a few years now and cant fault it. Used the Yucatan or Cairns Quickie as it was first introduced to me which is great and strong, but just cant see the point in taking the time to tie doubles when the albright works so good.
Use the albright for shock leaders for surf casting and for tying on my traces for strayling as I dont bother with swivels for this, works well joining 2 lines of different diameters Just doesnt require as many turns when its mono on mono.
My second most useful fishing knot after the uni knot.
I guess you could say I like it 
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Posted By: otter
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 11:30am
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PR knot for me tied nicely at home when busted off on the water quick bimini and albright
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Posted By: roughy
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 3:34pm
Posted By: shedz2
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 7:18pm
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I agree. The Albright knot is the least complicated for me (not being a boy scount) and has never failed!
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Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2010 at 2:18pm
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Been a few threads on this - I'd been using a bimini + surgeons combo until the last time it was discussed and it was pointed out that just doubling the braid and tying the surgeons was a) quicker and b) in theory, just as strong. So have been using that option (4 turn surgeons) ever since and it's worked well.
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Posted By: Limitless
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2010 at 4:47pm
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I've been using a knot called the "slim beauty" for the last few years. Only change was to use 7 turns up and 7 turns back in the doubled braid. First saw it published in an old edition of Geoff Wilsons knot book, but its missing from recent editions. A version can be found at http://www.netknots.com - www.netknots.com
Originally I tied braid to either end of a piece of leader using different knots, secured one end, and then loaded up until the weakest knot broke. For me the winner time and agian was the slim beauty.
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Posted By: Far Quirk
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2010 at 6:40am
No double, just a 9-turn Yucatan. Very slim knot, goes thru the guides well.
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Posted By: CEEBEE
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2010 at 9:26am
Been using the Allbright and found if you do not thread the braid through the loop at the end in the same way it entered it will pull out every time....I have just discovered this.
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Posted By: The Fishing Slut
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2010 at 12:40pm
Ive aways fed the tag end out the opposite way to it going in and never had issues. I just use a Spider hitch and allbright. I just looked at an animated site doing the allbright and it went out the same way it went in so I may give it a try it might just save me with that fish of a lifetime
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Posted By: Monty
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2010 at 3:50pm
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If I go 6lb or less, then I double the braid to use as one piece, then tie a 4 turn surgeons, otherwise dont double just tie straight to leader. The leader should be long enough from hook to join to stop fish tail beats from slicing the braid, hence a metre long or one rod length of leader/fluro. Any knot you can repeatedly tie without stuffing it is the best, so pick one, sit down with braid & trace, & practice.
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Posted By: Fish Dish
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2010 at 5:16pm
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Spider to double the braid, and then a 5 turn surgeons.
PR knot on Kingie lines.
On a casting set up such as a soft bait rig, you need the leader to be long enough so that the line you are holding when you lift the bail over is not braid but is the leader.
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Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2010 at 9:09pm
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Roddy Hayes knot also called the Tony Pena Knot
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniques/user-tips/tony-peqa-spectra-knot-21967.html - http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniques/user-tips/tony-peqa-spectra-knot-21967.html
The only thing i do different is to tie half hitches up over the knot in the fluro, this keeps the the tag end flat so no chances og catching in the eyes.
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Posted By: snellie
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2010 at 10:17pm
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I use the allbright and prefer it to the double uni. Also can google it and see an animated version of how to tie them. Double the fluoro and wind the braid around it. The animated website is excellent and having tried a number of methods it is handy to find a knot you can tie readily. I retied all my knots yesterday as got tangles with others and rarely do a get a bust off from the knot. I have more trouble with genie clips and they are more often my source of a bust off!!!
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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 1:18pm
back to back uni for me.
Dabbled with the PR on light gear but its not very good IMO. Wears down quickly with constant casting.
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 7:44pm
Ceaz wrote:
google bimini twist and yucatan knot. the first one to double the braid, and the second one to join the doubled braid to the fluorocarbon
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This what i use but i do a power pro three turn lock knot on the end of the yuker taan knot....This prevents slips when you start using heavier flouro...never had it fail and do it every time....Plus i just love to tie a bimini...a bit intimidating at first but its a very tidy knot.....I do 30 turns in 30 to 60 pound braid and 60 turns in 80 pound braid,22 in mono......again,never failed and i have biminis that have been on my reel for a year!
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 7:47pm
marx wrote:
back to back uni for me.
Dabbled with the PR on light gear but its not very good IMO. Wears down quickly with constant casting.
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when tied properly,this is one of the best connections going
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Posted By: Patch_
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 9:52am
what is this PR knot everybody keeps mentioning?
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 11:06am
Patch_ wrote:
what is this PR knot everybody keeps mentioning?
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Page Ranking knot. You use a bobbin to spin the braid around mono/fluoro leader, jiggers use this knot almost exclusively. Google PR knot and you will see how to tie it.
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Posted By: Patch_
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 2:33pm
Thanks kaveman
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Posted By: FrangaFry
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 10:48pm
Monty wrote:
If I go 6lb or less, then I double the braid to use as one piece, then tie a 4 turn surgeons, otherwise dont double just tie straight to leader. |
Same here, if less than 6lb, Surgeon knot, above 6lb I use an improved albright (about 9 turns).
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Posted By: BBFisha
Date Posted: 27 May 2010 at 1:05pm
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Back to Back Uni - got its first proper test on an 11lb snapper last week and came out on top! Stoked!
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Posted By: Redwaka
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 10:42am
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Found this on youtube. I am a fan of the uni knot for terminal connections but this guy makes an interesting observation for using a double uni for connecting braid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clHNRQ2drBg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clHNRQ2drBg
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