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Topic: how do you catch a tuna
Posted By: keenasmustard
Subject: how do you catch a tuna
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 10:10am
When towing lures around for marlin etc whats the best setup to catch a big tuna should any come along. Normally have 2 rods out for marlin. and a couple small rods up short with tiny lures for albies/skippies etc
Do large tuna go for marlin lures or should I have a couple rods out with tuna lures also? Where is best to position the tuna lures? in close or way out the back? also a few lure recommendations would be great.



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Posted By: obald
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 11:40am
Don't waste your time, there aren't any.

Seven yellow fin and nine big eye are sent to NZ in December each year and once they've been caught that's your lot. NZ's issue will be reduced next year.


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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 12:14pm
I'd heard our allocation was 30 this year!!
What you're doing keenas is along the right track. You could swap a skippy lure for a Rapala/ cedar plug or sub-surface minnow or swap a marlin lure for a bullet lure like a Legend  Unicorn (which won't harm your marlin chances) or large Zuker grass skirt in zuchini.
My biggest was on a Rapala type and smallest on big marlin lure!!


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Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 12:35pm
Hah ha Obald.....
 
Spot on mate!
Fished the Tuna Tournament and boy, did we burn some fuel looking for the illusive yellowfin.
 
Was chatting to two very experienced skippers on our boat viz Lionel and Paul Kingie and there was some interesting observations and comments about why the 'fin have moved off.
 
Coming back to the original question though, I can honestly say I'm buggered if I know.
Traditionally I have always fished smaller marlin lures.....striped marlin are hooked easier and the big blues also eat them. With the smaller spread of lures, yellowfin get into them just as much.
 
In all honesty, when we target tuna, we find running the lures a bit further back than when fishing for marlin gets the strikes. But then again, we fish where tuna actually live!Clown
 
 


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Posted By: odin
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 4:09pm
Hi Mate
I have also had good success with the Williamson Live Mackrell lures, but throw away the shyte rigging that comes with them as it is crap and does not make the lure work.
Check out http://www.fish-crazy.com/index.cfm?pageid=115 - here http://www.fish-crazy.com/index.cfm?pageid=115 - http://www.fish-crazy.com/index.cfm?pageid=115  on how to rig them and make them work.
Cheers
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Posted By: Gruntled
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 5:45pm
Go to Vanuatu, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga or Raro..... Get them there before the Japanese long liners do

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Posted By: Weighmaster
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 6:02pm
mostly by catch on the marlin lures north of Barrier IS.
 
and on skip baits our biggest is 64kg on large kahawai skip bait
flying fish rigged as a swimmer or skip bait
 
LUES; Super plungers, wide range softheads, Pakula's-sporckets, chatterbox, cockroaches, other lures like Mrs Palmer and the Mother in Law or a pink hex head 6 inches short.


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Posted By: combo
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 10:04pm
small marlin lures work fine, small pakula lumo sporckets,black magics grand slam-we caucht a heap one year and thay took all sizes


Posted By: wanabe
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by obald obald wrote:

Don't waste your time, there aren't any.

Seven yellow fin and nine big eye are sent to NZ in December each year and once they've been caught that's your lot. NZ's issue will be reduced next year.


David,
 I am sure you started somewhere on this forum, the man asked a simple question he will probably never ask any more with the answer you gave, I am a little disappointed.

Keenasmustard,

there are plenty of Tuna out there it is a little hard to find them though, you could try running a Legend Enki shell size 12 but they are as rare as hens teeth to find, and the importer has none.

When running lures for Marlin you do not have to run large ones as the theory of big bait big fish does not work on Marlin, sometimes the smaller the better so the Marlin can take it in one swipe of the mouth, so therefore small lures can catch both Marlin and Tuna.

However Tuna like bullets and jet heads in the colour full range's the one's I caught in Fiji where on a bullet and a jet both where caught trawling for marlin




Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 10:26pm
saw a hell tuna work up a couple of weeks back off the gardens but moved to fast for me to stay with.

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Posted By: wanabe
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 11:50pm
Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

saw a hell tuna work up a couple of weeks back off the gardens but moved to fast for me to stay with.



That's why the island boys travel so fast when trawling


Posted By: ancient mariner
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 12:18am
Pelagic Breakfast!


Posted By: biggear
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 7:31am
You forgot the highly experienced HOOF as well Jaapie. It was a pleasure fishing with you guys, even the tuna didnt play ball.

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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 7:57am
Originally posted by wanabe wanabe wrote:



there are plenty of Tuna out there it is a little hard to find them though


You really really think so do you? regardless of scientific data about tuna biomass being on a steady decline take a look at the results from the last 20 years of the once great Whakatane "Tuna" Tournament of which there were NO yellowfin or other large tunas caught this year - where in recent history it was not uncommon to see 150-200 odd put across the scales daily....take ya rose tinted glasses off Wanabe!!! and while you are doing that read the books: TUNA - A LOVE STORY and THE EMPTY OCEAN by Richard Ellis.

Sorry but that was a completely moronic statement to make.


Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 8:14am
Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

Originally posted by wanabe wanabe wrote:



there are plenty of Tuna out there it is a little hard to find them though


You really really think so do you? regardless of scientific data about tuna biomass being on a steady decline take a look at the results from the last 20 years of the once great Whakatane "Tuna" Tournament of which there were NO yellowfin or other large tunas caught this year - where in recent history it was not uncommon to see 150-200 odd put across the scales daily....take ya rose tinted glasses off Wanabe!!! and while you are doing that read the books: TUNA - A LOVE STORY and THE EMPTY OCEAN by Richard Ellis.

Sorry but that was a completely moronic statement to make.
Clap


Posted By: wanabe
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:14am
Originally posted by krow krow wrote:

Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

Originally posted by wanabe wanabe wrote:



there are plenty of Tuna out there it is a little hard to find them though


You really really think so do you? regardless of scientific data about tuna biomass being on a steady decline take a look at the results from the last 20 years of the once great Whakatane "Tuna" Tournament of which there were NO yellowfin or other large tunas caught this year - where in recent history it was not uncommon to see 150-200 odd put across the scales daily....take ya rose tinted glasses off Wanabe!!! and while you are doing that read the books: TUNA - A LOVE STORY and THE EMPTY OCEAN by Richard Ellis.

Sorry but that was a completely moronic statement to make.
Clap


You like others on this site only want to put people down, if you look at the original question the man asked how to catch them, and at what point did I say there was a boundary to where to find them , as was said by others in other threads the trawlers are making a killing way out wide.

Another said go abroad to catch and yes I have caught 128 and 150 kg yellow fin so I am only qualified to talk of what I  caught and saw and that was plenty.

If we where to be positive and not negative in life you could even surprise yourself and get something you thought impossable.


Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:20am
got a photo of the 150?


Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:23am
330lb cows get caught all the time Mozza - there is plenty!!


Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:32am
I was fishing in one of the premier YFT hotspots around the world and we caught one that may have hit 300 had we not been bothered about quality of the meat and cut it on board. I would love to see a pic of one from the south pacific though. I've seen a 350+ fish go airborne on a kite bait in one hell of a detonation but unfortunately no hook up. 

Live baits, small skipbaits and straight running trolled lures like rapala's sprokets, krakatoa's moldcrafts etc did the damage for us, we never managed one on a angle faced lure though.

spreader bars also worked well when you had big schools up moving fast and feeding.

thats a a 200



Posted By: Adam Scott
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:36am
Tiddler mozz, you just got a midget to hold it up!
Wanabe, you could start a thread, top 10 tuna lures in NZ......LOL


Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:38am
just a question, do we have to go down this road again, we got rid of the Phecda who has come back on here numerous times and continues to be booted.

personally it wears friggin thin guys, yip pot calling the kettle hear but hell I can see just how stupid I must look to others when i do the same.

yes tuna stocks are very low they are still about but dam hard to find with sparodic catches here and there, I wish there were more but there are'nt the reasons well do we need to run down a flogged horse and accuse the commercial boys, we know they are the problem and money talks, but lets look at what we as recreational fishoes did about it, I can say hand on heart I did nothing not a bloody thing.

Hey Mozz got any pics of the tuna you have caught over the ways.


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Posted By: wanabe
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:40am
Originally posted by Adam Scott Adam Scott wrote:

Tiddler mozz, you just got a midget to hold it up!
Wanabe, you could start a thread, top 10 tuna lures in NZ......LOL


Adam the last one was to much fun I still have a laugh about it you start one


Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:43am
Originally posted by mozz mozz wrote:

I was fishing in one of the premier YFT hotspots around the world and we caught one that may have hit 300 had we not been bothered about quality of the meat and cut it on board. I would love to see a pic of one from the south pacific though. I've seen a 350+ fish go airborne on a kite bait in one hell of a detonation but unfortunately no hook up. 

Live baits, small skipbaits and straight running trolled lures like rapala's sprokets, krakatoa's moldcrafts etc did the damage for us, we never managed one on a angle faced lure though.

spreader bars also worked well when you had big schools up moving fast and feeding.

thats a a 200



thats impressive wow.


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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:43am

got lots BA but most have been posted on here already.

little livebait sized ones


slightly larger, caught on a straylined google eye or chunk bait

nice gaff work..... save the toroWink

one of the angriest fish we caught, this took 45mins on 220lb spectra

this taped out at 267 I think

this fish inhaled a stickbait

theres a couple


Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:50am
Fiji All Tackle Record - Yellowfin Tuna - 245lbs / 111.3kg


Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:59am
nice pics yes it would be nice to land anything that sort of size, we had a massive school of Y/T off the garden a couple of weeks back could not catch it so missed out on the frenzy, dropped a few baits for the night drift in the hope of nailing one but nothing other than a shark attack. will always run the little lure out the back in the hope it happens.

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Posted By: fastjig
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 10:26am
Once upon a time in Whakatane........

Top producing tuna lures were .....

Zuker 3.5  R16 Whakatane special
Zuker 3.5  R07 black purple
Zuker ZTWG 8  Zuchini ( same in feather)
Zuker ZTWV  8  black purple ( same in feather)
Sevenstrand  1205 Duck egg
Sevenstrand 1220 duck egg (  Doug Iretons all tackle Nz record was caught on a 1220  mack in 1984  a 95kg fish.)
 

Next best was 3 dead anchovies on a hook, or a live kohi.

cheers Greg

(we sold more zucker lures than the whole of New Zealand put together in those days) 

 


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Posted By: Marlinspiked
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 11:36am
The sustainability of the yellowfin stocks within the New Zealand EEZ is a pretty hard question to answer if you ask me, as these Tuna are highly migratory which travel within other countries EEZ (Exclusive economic zones) before they reach the NZ fishery. What I mean by this is that they are being targeted by every single fishing method( purse seign, surface long line, trolling ect) within these countries, so if we are fortunate enough we may get the leftovers which manage to struggle through.
 
The yellowfin fishery is an interesting one for many reasons. They are highly sought after by the purse seign vessels up in the pacific where 3-5 kilogram juvinile fish are the norm. I am quite concerned about this fishery as yellowfin are highly migratory which leeds to overfishing from many countries that they pass through. In saying that though, a kiwi tuna fisherman from Nelson who goes up to Samoa every season after the Albacore run, manages to get great catches of big yellowfin to 100 kilo on a regular basis. He has got a good catch history also, however it must have been a couple of seasons ago he dipped out, but he put it down to the surface temperature being to warm and the fish sticking right down deep on the thermocline. He can identify them on his sonar and sounder readings.
 
Big eye Tuna- I have no problems with this fishery as they are always out there, especially in Bay Of Plenty waters where they show up in droves from about September. We have got a quite good fishery which recreational fishers should and will  develop in time i guess as they turn up well before the yellowfin do. As always currents dictate where you will find them however most years you'd be looking at 60 to 80 mile out, especially early spring.
I wouldn't be surprised if they remained in the New zealand waters year round. The foreign vessels outside 200 mile catch them year round, as well as the huge Albacore, one of which weighed in at 52 kilos caught from a tauranga based vessel a few years back.
Bluefin tuna is still pretty much a good fishery here in Nz. Also can be caught here year round in certain locations ( Quota gets caught thick and fast) however worldwide it is generally accepted as on the decline.
 
Ben.
 
 


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Posted By: arjay
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 11:49am
I asked Peter Pakula what he would recommend here to TARGET Yellow Fin and I was sure he was going to suggest Dojos but this is his suggestion. BTW We only troll off the rod holders so 3 rods max.

All hotheads. 
Shortest Lure: Wasp Mouse
Next Longest: Pink Angel Small Sprocket,
Longest: Lumo Small Sprocket


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Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 1:37pm
[QUOTE=biggear]You forgot the highly experienced HOOF as well Jaapie. It was a pleasure fishing with you guys, even the tuna didnt play ball.[/QUOTE]
 
Hah ha ....yeah mate!
 
How is that bloody hoof of yours - only bloke I know that has his foot crush in a forklift that takes his cast off and comes fishing high as a kite on painkillers and beer!
Good boy!!!
 
 


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Posted By: keenasmustard
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 2:30pm
cheers for all your advice.I'll get a couple of smaller lures and have a go. Just want to keep options open when fishing. would love to catch a YFT or any other tuna also would be completely stoked to be hooked up to anything.
 Didn't mean to start an argument haha. Obald's comment was just abit of humour. And maybe not far from truth if it carries on the way it is going. I wonder how long it will take before the commercial fishery is not cost effective. might not be far away. Us humans never seem to learn from past mistakes. greed and money and all that. we just take what we can get as fast as we can get and who gives a f%$k about the future. I saw the movie 'Avatar' in imax 3d the other day, was pretty impressive. Although in parts it was a little cheesy it was right on about the **** that goes on to make a bit of money.
anyway better go try catch a fish. the upcoming weather is looking primo into next week.
cheers


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 2:56pm
If you're going to run a smaller skirted lure in the hope of bagging a tuna and/or a marlin, why not rig it up as a small daisy chain. The daisy chains I thinkincrease the attraction for tunas, although to be honest I have not hunted tuna for the last 3 years here in NZ apart from skippies for bait a coupla times.
If I were to have just one choice fora tuna lure, I'd go for a 4-lure daisy chain, made of 3 smaller hex-heads, and one larger hex head tail lure in a different colour....like 3 blue/whites and a pur/blk chaser, or something similar. This lure sits just subsurface, and seems to get a lot more hits than a solitary lure.

...not the best pic I guess, seeing as it is only a baby albert, and the chain is made of B2 squids, but you gets the idea.
Anyhow, just my thoughts.... oh, and I agree with Obald....there really are only 11 fish sent here this year.



Posted By: kaimana
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 3:18pm
You need to find them first and with the catch rate at the moment that is looking like a needle in a hay stack all the y/fin i have got have been by catch on my marlin lures


Posted By: Tumeke299
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 11:37pm
Originally posted by fastjig fastjig wrote:

Once upon a time in Whakatane........

Next best was 3 dead anchovies on a hook, or a live kohi.

cheers Greg

(we sold more zucker lures than the whole of New Zealand put together in those days) 
 


We had a bloody massive meatball 6 years ago huddled in between our tinny and another for 5 minutes with yellowfin smashing through and making a hell of a thud on the hulls haha LOL. Was bloody awesome. Were only catching the XXL skippies as we were only chucking 1 anchovie at a time. First time we threaded 3 on a bloody marlin ate it Cry Had it on for an hour and a half which was amazing considering it was on a little 5/0 tuna circle tied straight onto 24kg mainline lol. Was biggest chance i had at catching a YFT. Hope to get another chance oneday.

 Ended up getting 15kg of anchovies for the bait freezer though which was mint.


Posted By: Marlinspiked
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 1:15am
Captain Aparagus. You are jonnie on the spot mate. Tuna, especially Yellowfin and Bigeye tend to take lures which are straight running and do not breath air and duck and dive like your usual marlin lures do. While trolling we use straight running lures which run just under the surface. If you manage to get to Tauranga there's a guy called Bill MacBryne who should put you in the right direction. He is the creator of a lure called the Mac skippy. Alot of the tuna boats use this fella's lures and if you run it as a daisy chain is very effective. We have managed to hook huge albacore and Bigeye tuna on them, especially at dusk where you cannot visually see the lures yourself.
 
The three best lures for tuna trolling are as follows.
Mac skippy( daisy chain) for bigeye.
Zest lure's. Albacore.
Seaferrets(if you can get them somewhere) Yellowfin and Albacore.
 
We have tryed something called the Zucker lure which is ok but the above is the top three.
Ben C.


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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 3:40am
some cool tuna footage of my captain and deckie from mexico fishing in panama last year 
the workup at the end is a great site to see with big tuna and porpoise.
http://s876.photobucket.com/albums/ab323/gwgator55/?action=view&current=PanamaPart1.flv

part 2
http://s876.photobucket.com/albums/ab323/gwgator55/?action=view&current=PanamaPart2.flv



Posted By: biggear
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 7:29am
Originally posted by Jaapie Jaapie wrote:

[QUOTE=biggear]You forgot the highly experienced HOOF as well Jaapie. It was a pleasure fishing with you guys, even the tuna didnt play ball.[/QUOTE]
 
Hah ha ....yeah mate!
 
How is that bloody hoof of yours - only bloke I know that has his foot crush in a forklift that takes his cast off and comes fishing high as a kite on painkillers and beer!
Good boy!!!
 
 
The Hoof is slightly inflamed, but coming right. Ready to tackle a cherry poppin marlin this weekend I hope.

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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 11:40am
wheres the pic of your 'super cow' wanabe?



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