Pack Attacks
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Printed Date: 20 Sep 2026 at 11:42pm
Topic: Pack Attacks
Posted By: Mars
Subject: Pack Attacks
Date Posted: 02 May 2004 at 10:13pm
Here's a pic I found that should bring back a few good memories and spark a few stories!

Pic was taken by a mate at the East Cape a few years ago. The hooked kingy went 36lbs.
Just looking at this sort of stuff makes me start to shake.....
Mars
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Posted By: Eric de Vries
Date Posted: 02 May 2004 at 10:30pm
Mars
I know what you mean. Seeing a King come so close and see them play with the baitfish is a truley awesome sight.
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Posted By: Tagit
Date Posted: 02 May 2004 at 10:33pm
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Love that East Cape region. Fastest Kingi action I have ever had was about 400m off the Waihau Bay boat ramp one day when it was too windy to get out wide. The fishng went a bit like this - drop your sabiki down and pull up 3 Maccys, pass 2 to the other 2 anglers, all drop down your livies and wait for a few minutes until the next wave of Kingi's came through. Land some, loose some, and sort out the mess from playing 3 kingis simultaneously. Drop down your Sabiki again and hope that the Kingi's have left before you hook 3 more Maccys and start again. This went on for most of an afternoon and, we hooked, lost, landed so many that I lost count. Doubt that the biggest went more than 15kg's, but hooking them consistently 3 at a time in less than 15m of water made the whole thing bloody exciting. Funny thing was that even though there were heaps of Kingis around huntng them, the Maccys would still take the Sabikis every time.
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Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 02 May 2004 at 11:01pm
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The photo didn't do the Kingi justice Mars. I thought they looked just legal. The photo must be taken from high up on the rock
Excellent fun if you can keep them there for a while, and they are too fussy.
Cheers Woody
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Posted By: Mars
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 9:47am
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You're right thereWoody, it is a high ledge. Seen this sort of action a number of times at this spot, often with bigger fish.
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Posted By: CFISH
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 11:42am
Hi Mars,
Have seen lots of Kings from the rocks but not up to this level of action.
Was on Tagit last year at Cape KK and had a triple hook up all landed all around 26 to 28kg.
They seem to hang around in numbers and similar sizes.
Nothing gets the adrenalin going faster than seeing them at your feet and hungry.
Mark
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Posted By: nzkingfisher
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 1:24pm
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There's nothing quite like a thrashing, foaming, bubbling pool of whirls behind your livie to get the adrenaline pumping.
I have caught, (and lost), kingfish in this scenario, but never in water quite this clear, or at an angle looking straight down into the water.
Top shot.
Q. Was this shot taken as the king was taking the livie, or as you are about to gaff? I have had cases where a pack of kingi's were following a hooked mate, and also where they have been fighting over a livie (a 3kg livie) - big eyes, those kingi's.
NZK
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Posted By: Mars
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 9:13pm
NZK,
The king was hooked during a pack attack, and the pack just stayed with the fish. The shot is just prior to gaffing, and as you can see gaffing didn't have to be the hooked fish necessarily...
I find when playing a fish, if there is a follower, there is usually only one, which made this situation unusual.
Hoodlums scrapping over a livebait though, while thats a different story! Gets the blood pumping...
Mars
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Posted By: Kerren
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 9:36pm
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big bloody meanies those fellas....and we wonder they are affectionatly known as "hoodlums"? and/or "brutes".
Awesome photo Mars....cheers for sharing!
------------- I am Kermit, Leader of Muppets Nov 05
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Posted By: sweet tooth#3
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 9:41pm
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nice photo time to go hunting.
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Posted By: Mr Bean
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 11:55pm
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Thats ones got me frothing!!
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Posted By: ROCKSTARS
Date Posted: 05 May 2004 at 4:09pm
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YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT NOTHING BEATS SEEING KINGIES CLOSE TO THE ROCKS,WE HAD A GREAT DAY AT THE TOP OF CORO LAST WEEKEND WE WERE MONSTERED BY KINGIES ALL DAY LANDED TWO OVER 20KG AND LOST ONE THAT WOULD HAVE GONE 25KG. WE ARE CURRANTLY LOOKING AT FITTING A LIVE BAIT TANK TO OUR INFLATABLE SO THAT WE CAN ARRIVE AT OUR FISHING LEDGE WITH A SUPPLY OF LIVIES THIS WILL ENABLE US TO SPEND MORE TIME TARGETING KINGIES AND NOT SPEND HALF THE DAY TRYING TO CATCH LIVIES.
CHEERS BRYAN {ROCKSTARS }
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Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 05 May 2004 at 4:18pm
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Hey rockstar - we have a system that we use a floating live bait net (you can buy them in the tackle stores for bugger all.) We have a set line anchor and float, and attach the net half way up the rope. We have loops tied in the set line buoy rope and clip the net, top and bottom, to the rope using set line clips.
We do our livie fishing the day/evening before, leave them in the floating bait net overnight. Simply zoom up and grab them and you're away. Works great but I'm always worried that a big bitie thing is going to get to them overnight. Hasn't happened yet.
If you have jack mackeral they fall asleep and look dead when you haul the net in, but they wake up and go nuts when they get lifted out of the water.
------------- Nobody has ever come up with a great idea after a second bottle of water.
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Posted By: ROCKSTARS
Date Posted: 06 May 2004 at 3:00pm
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Hi BENDER,
thanks for the reply, we use a simaler system for the livies that we catch on site, my idea of transporting livies, sometimes for up to an hour to our fishing spot was to cover us for those times when catching livies seemes impossable ,usually because the kingies are around. I am fitting a live bait tank to my inflatable I,ll let you know how it works.
cheers Bryan
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Posted By: HELLFISH
Date Posted: 06 May 2004 at 4:51pm
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{{{{Wiping the drool away}}}}
((((Adrenaline Shake))))
Lemme at'm
------------- I reckon thys hir litel fishin hole jaust aint wut it yuzta bae...
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Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 25 May 2004 at 1:20pm
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being from welly - I know what you mean...
Was up at Lottin in early Feb, and saw a pack of real biggies...Second pass - we counted exactly 12 kings, the smallest was around 30kg..and the larger ones would have been 40kg. We hooked a couple and both were lost.
Would have been great if we had a video camera.... 
Definitely have an offering of some description ready, as if you hook a reasonable one - the biggies tend to travel in small groups.
The only downside to 'packs of kings' is that if your'e tossing poppers/pillies the of offerings etc..the smaller ones tend to be quicker to a bait.
There's nothing like being on the rocks and hooking a monster right in front of your feet.
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Posted By: Mars
Date Posted: 25 May 2004 at 2:34pm
Ahhhhh Lottin......
Must get back.....
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Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 25 May 2004 at 6:45pm
i use to fish at lottin a lot in the late 80s early 90s amazing area and fishing best day i had their had 20hookups with large schools of huge kings.have seen yellowfin their a few times.hicks bay was another favourite.
------------- cod
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Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 26 May 2004 at 5:30pm
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I remember my first couple of trips to Lottin and the surrounds early nineties, just at the time the area got it's first publicity in NZFN. 1st trip stayed at the Te Kaha Hotel, before it burned down a wee whiles later. Bruno who runs the Lottin Motel was still commercial fishing, the motel was non-existant.
To see a king 20kg or over - all one had to do was walk out to the rocks, and wait no more than 10mins, and one would swim by. Throw a bit of berley in. and kahawai arrived instantaenously before you could rig up. Rat kings were plentiful. Large snapper could be targeted in the berley trail.
Likewise saw some tuna and big sharks jumping in close to the point.
The resident big king population took a noticable dive around (1996?)..which coincided when someone started commercially targeting them out of Waihau with long lines using flying fish as baits.
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Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 26 May 2004 at 10:26pm
yes those buggers nailed them their during that period.they nailed them from waihau to the ranfurly just assholes.
------------- cod
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