Cast netting sunday
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Printed Date: 02 Aug 2026 at 5:59pm
Topic: Cast netting sunday
Posted By: Zambezi
Subject: Cast netting sunday
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 4:30pm
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Woop woop get my net tomorrow morning. And so rather then fishing I am gonna head over to eastern beach around 10 down by the picnic area. Burley off the front of the rocks down that way. Though I anyone that wants to come have a blat (hopefully I can still throw it) a mate and me will be there. Hope fully be stocking up on piper dead baits for the 8th might also hit the sand bar at bucklands beach later in the day during the low. |
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Posted By: ropo101
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 4:40pm
im going out tommorow before the sh!! weather hits and putting the bait net out there as well...The boss gave me the day off to go fishing ------------- V8 Super Cars are back,Go the holdens!!! |
Posted By: Dandy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 6:57pm
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By bait net do you mean a normal fishing net? Wouldnt it be more effective to catch them on small hooks? |
Posted By: ropo101
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 7:05pm
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got a 20metre piper net, a lot easier than catching them by hooks !! ------------- V8 Super Cars are back,Go the holdens!!! |
Posted By: Dandy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 7:24pm
| Cool! Do you just berley up, put some bait in and drop it in? |
Posted By: Dandy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 7:26pm
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Could you post a pic of what they look like. How about those plastic bait catchers...are they any good? |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 7:28pm
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Yeah I just picked up the cast net this morning, How ever I may not be there anymore heading back up leigh on sunday now instead. And you can catch them on hook's but with a net you can catch more at one time. |
Posted By: Dandy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 7:34pm
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Do you kinda use it like a flouder net? |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 7:38pm
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You throw a cast net. I am a bit gutted though coz I thought it would be a purse net type thingy where like the one the guy throw's in here where the net closes in on it's self. But it's not :( oh well should still work. Just found this. and it's the similar to how I throw. Not complicated or fancy and doesn't put your teeh at risk. |
Posted By: Dandy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 7:55pm
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LOL yea that one looks much easier! Do you fish Eastern beach much? or was that just a one off? I never really thought of eastern beach as being much of a spot for catching bait fish...If I was to go down there on Friday is there any other method I could use for cathing bait fish? |
Posted By: OrangeMonkey
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 8:01pm
| i have one - saw a whole bunch of piper at murrays bay wharf and since then mised every bloody one - need more burly i think! |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 8:05pm
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If you go left coming in to eastern beach and go down to the end. On a low tide (you have to do a little wading in about waist deep at the worst) you can walk out to the foul and small reef system. In summer that spot teems with bait fish. We've seen kingi's out by that pole in summer as well. I haven't been down there for a few weeks but was flicking my flies in during last light around there awhile ago lots of fish but no takers. Burleyed up early there one morning on an incoming and had lots of piper and mullet show up. You can also get pannies drifting baits there if you cast to the "bigish rock" that's further out. But you have to watch the tides and I haven't fished that spot that way for years. You can also get pannies out there on a high if you drift baits off a kayak. Lots of skate and flounder at times to. Just watch out for the tax men they come in closre then you think there more so in summer though. |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 8:07pm
Stand back further from the edge give it about a meter or two. That way when you make the sudden movement of throwing they won't see it. |
OrangeMonkey wrote:Posted By: Dandy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 8:31pm
| Cheers John...Thanks for the help mate! Ill try catching some bait fish on Friday then head up to Whangarei On sat or sun and do some real fishing! Any other good bait fish catching spots in Auckland? |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 8:40pm
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If you're using rods, get some small fresh water hook and head down the the hold bucklands beach yacht club. hang and burly from the wall on the parking lot try from slack water and first 1/2 the out going tide. tiny tiny bits of pillie or squid (you can use the same bait over and over with squid) on small fresh water hooks and you'll get bucket loads of bait. No leader needed use 8kg braid and just flick the line out (don't need to go far) can even just lower it down. Braid and bait will drift with the current coming past and it's sprat go nuts for it. If you use a plastic cray pot burley thing you can weight it down with some gym weights and put it at the end of the boat ramp aswell. on an outgoing tide the current rips over that and makes a really wick burley trail down the side of the parking lot. |
Posted By: Dandy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 10:23pm
| Cheers mate, ill head down there 2moro avo and see if I can catch a few! |
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 2:50pm
| Did you end up trying out the cast net Zambizi? |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 3:18pm
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Yeah mate up at leigh off the rocks. Still got the skills took 1 munted cast to get back into it. How ever the net was a let down. Not eoungh weight, lead rope not long enough and because it doesn't have the sliding net thing that closes the opening the bloody fish have time to swim out because it's not sinking fast enough. So will add a healthy amount of split shot to and lengthen the rop. I also think that the swell was forcing the bait fish down deeper then so was not ideal conditions either. |
Posted By: Youngfisherman
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 5:23pm
| Did you get it of trademe?...my dad bought one from trademe with a yellow plastic rim and the quality sucks, the net rips it self when thrown because the joints are so bad. Any way try going to a wharf or pier on a calm night were the water is extra calm, get some one to hold a torch and shine a area in the water while you are ready to throw the net if you spot any fish, you can usually see them on the surface and normally in the shallows. Thats how me and my dad do it only get YEM though. |
Posted By: Bricky
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 5:42pm
You get one of them, tie a weight to it (or put a rock in it) in the middle so it sinks horizontally (sometimes you'll have to put it on the bottom yourself or it will fall down vertically and then you're screwed). Go to Eastern Beach and put about 15 tiny pieces of bread (no bigger than 1cm each) in it, or oats, I think they work well also. Walk it out about waist deep and drop it down (make sure it is on the bottom). Leave it for 10-15 minutes then either pull it back in by the rope or better yet, walk out and pick it up with a hand covering each hole (this way you wont lose any fish). This is such an easy way to catch bait fish, and it works an absolute treat. You can also go to Bucklands Beach at high tide and do it off the car park/boat ramp where the yacht club is, if I remember correctly from when I was a kid we used to catch sprats at Eastern, and sprats/piper at Bucklands. We once brought one of those plastic paddling pools down to Eastern, filled it with water and then filled it with bait fish in about 30 mins. We would have had a good 100+ of them. I'm not sure if this method works in winter, as i've never tried it and i'm guessing there arent too many bait fish around at the moment. But when it starts getting warmer you won't believe how easy this is. Also, i've found it doesn't work well on a rough day as the bait catcher moves around too much in the water, it needs to be relatively calm. Anyway, hope this helps...you can see me at Eastern Beach in the summer doing exactly this also. |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 6:00pm
Nah ordered it through top catch. I didn;t say what I was looking for in a net thought. Just that I wanted a cast net. I think this time round the swell was up so there was not a lot of surface action up close to the bricks. Wont give up on that spot though. Drooling thinking about the ledges on the mandle. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 6:26pm
Action fishing in Pt Chev have 16' & 8' diameter cast nets. the 16' look like they have the draw strings. I bought an 8' for off the rocks, no draw string but the weights are pouched up so there are pockets at the bottom. Just gotta get the throw worked out now  8' was $45. don't think the 16' are much different (they list on trademe)------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 6:35pm
| If youre out east I can show how sometime |
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 7:29pm
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I bought one from the same fulla Edit. I found him through trademe, he's got them listed on their all the time.
I've only ever used mine off the beach. Mostly because it's heaps of weight to carry into any rock spot and two it would be pretty difficult to not get it constantly snagged up on the rocks, even just while your getting it ready to cast. I can't imagine how to get around that nightmare  ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 7:37pm
Yeah I'm thinking that too, already put a foot long hole in it practicing down at Pt Chev  oysters still I'm gonna take it on Sat for a whirl, as the babistabi takes most of the weight ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 7:54pm
| Yeah it was a mish and half not ripping it on the little barnicles on sunday. The one up on the smaller net with not closing up thingy is that it won't close around a rock. That sucks having to dive in to untangle it :( |
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 8:57pm
Yeah bro, go the stabi!! Cast net would definatley be the go on a school of piper, think I'll stick to traditional methods for the KY though  ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: Fishybznz
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 10:27pm
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hey - how much gear you fellas bringing?! sounds like i don't need to bring any bait/berley at all :) fingers crosed for the weather aye ------------- NZFisher: Get your free monthly fishing magazine emailed straight to you. http://www.nzfisher.co.nz |
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 10:38pm
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Weather's looking better for the east coast at the moment mate but it is only Tuesday after all ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 10:46pm
And still 2 weeks to go >.< We seriously need a plan B coz chances are it will be a southerly blowing. |
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 10:59pm
Sorry Zambizi mate, crossed wires. We're planning a trip for this weekend (should stick to the topic aye, been told off for this before  )
You're right about the Plan B for the 8th though ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: SeaI
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 7:54am
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when i was a kid we used to go down to the iron pot at napier and catch heaps of sprats using a wire net off the wharf. the simplist was a fire screen, but now I would make a 1.5 metre square of 1 inch wire netting (or smaller) and brace diagonally with bamboo. Form the wire into a dish shape, bridle off the corners and fix to a central rope. You lower it in abouta metre down and burley bread etc on top. The bait fish will soon ignore the net, and you just pull up and catch plenty. cheap and easy ------------- Kei uta ngā ika |
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 1:16pm
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Hey seal, I used to do exactly the same thing at the Iron pot as a kid. We used to get buckets full of live sprats and dad would take us to the Napier aquarium to feed them to the giant kings in the main tank. Some of the luckier sprats got to live in their own tank as exhibits, but the majority got wasted by kings and kahawai.
We used a sand-filled hula hoop with chicken wire, which sounds what you used too. We would also get boulders out of the sea wall, then berley up a great scrum of sprats and drop the rock on their heads, which would stun about 50. After two minutes in the bucket they'd come back to life.
Did you ever catch anything big at the iron pot? I hooked a kahawai once on a mister twister, but he pinged me off on a hull. Once I pulled up a chunk of weed with two sea horses tangled in it, which we took to the aquarium.
I used to fish there from about 1984- 88, before I lost my way and took up trout fishing in the Tukituki. Were you there round the same time?
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Posted By: Youngfisherman
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 6:16pm
| What do stunned sprat look like? |
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 6:48pm
| Like a stunned mullet, just smaller. |