Wayne won't tell the truth...

 

 

 

Yes - the main gear is 2mm larger in dia. giving a higher gear ratio.

 

 

 

A gold OJ..Dose it have a lock button also? One of a few is it?

 

Carbine...

I think it's Swiissssh...It feels great to jig with and works well

but then what would i know

 

Yes it has the lock and hold on button.As to your other question,of course it is...

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see that there a limited number of Gold 4000p's (not the TN40N) turning up with a 4.9:1 ratio, Fish City Auckland had a few of these in. Would love to know what went "west" inside your 5000p Wayne, I have the Ocea Jigger 4000p and had no issues to date ... touch wood...

Also keen to hear what happened wayne?

 

TT when you did your drag upgrade did you change the stanless pressure washers... I had the same problem with drag pressure slipping from 15kg max back to around 12kg. The factory Stainless washers Shimano use to sandwich the Dartium carbon are a hard grade, the Carbotex or AvCarb drag material when greased with CALS doesn't have the same resistance. If you change the stainless disc's to genuine Smooothies you will have no worries as they use a softer grade of stainless which gives good bite resitance on the carbotex washers without being jerky. My reels now get 16kg-18kg which is more than enough and is very smooth.  

 

 

 

Graeme are you sure that the reels have a "P" designation as the "P" stands for "Power" which comes from the 4.1:1 gearing and the reel is metallic grey? The non "P" version is gold and has the 4.9:1 gearing.

 

 

 

 

But then i think 5.8 is even better...4.1 is to slow...

The comparison has been made and if you want to Skull drag then the 4.1 is ideal but for working the jig IMO the 5.8 works better so the 4.9 should be a great compramise...

Anyway if the fish swims at you while your hooked up like they do!!!The higher ratio enables you to keep minimal slack line between you and the fish helping keep the hook firm, IMO off coarse

 

Choppy the "P" stands for panzy.

 

Sounds like the Goldie would look very nice on my Kojak going with the Gold inserted guides etc...Torsa looks prime and works jigs even better

 

OF2FSH...

Maybe because of the higher ratio the Anti reverse bearing didn't last..cause it wasn't because of the lever drag.

Im surprised it hasn't started oxidising yet. 

Interesting - if the AR bearing goes then the AR dogs (2) should've taken the strain. More accurately the AR dogs should prevent the AR bearing from going in the first place.

 

 

 

Is that why you own a 4000P Torcea?

 

 

lol great report on the white trip wayne it says 3rd december I presume you meant 3rd january?We went out the day before on the friday and yeah it was all on just like your mission.The best day Ive had at white with all the fish averaging at least 20kgs and stroppy as Ive ever seen em.

Interesting - if the AR bearing goes then the AR dogs (2) should've taken the strain. More accurately the AR dogs should prevent the AR bearing from going in the first place.

 

I was thinkin this as well choppy...unless the anti reverse pawl pickup plates didn't have enough pressure on the ratchet gear to engage them it should have stopped the spool dead.

IMO an anti reverse bearing failure will always be a bit of a risk in a high performance reel that can run drag pressures over 15kg... in most cases the metal rollers on these bearings run in a nylon gage encased in a metal outer housing, the nylon swells under extreme loads, then the reel relys on the manual back up anti reverse pawls to take the load (as it was designed to). Problem is nylon has no memory and won't return to it's original size so the back up anti reverse system will always be under constant load. The bearing starts to sound rough and adding grease or oil will only speed up the failure as these compounds don't compress causing the nylon to swell even more and the bearing to slip.

 

I hope DJ's come to the party in the case of Waynes OJ4000.... it is the first I've heard of one these letting go...

When my 1st and only Bearing went I put it down to the heat thats generated inside the bearing housing as it's plastic and not metal and not so much excessive drag 11kg at strike...The reason why i say that is because after a day catching freight trains the bearing in disscusion heats up to a point of no return and the next time out thrashing it it lets go and as every one knows Im not into heavy drag as pacing myself leaves me still landing fish when others are sleeping and my gear lasts longer.

The classic example was last year when i got my PB with I think 17 fish going over 18 kg in 2-3 hours and with no time for the reel to cool down the next day i was out doing it again  it let go.

Maybe because braid holds alot of water also when line is being retrieved and being peeled of water sprays every where making it's way inside the reel causing problems also, hence the reason my reels get pulled apart evey 4-5 missions.

The way i see it is when heat is generated through catching heaps of fish in a session things stretch and when they cool down they shrink to a certain degree sucking in water etc and like MIB said because the ARB plastic housing dosn't have memory it became sloppy and well YOU KNOW.

 

ARB bearings suck Why don't they make the housings out of Steel??????

 

p.s Im interested in what others think also.

 

Jigging certainly is tough on reels and all your gear for that matter... but then so is the opposition when hooked up on the other end

 

 

 

 

 well done Shimano.... top effort and keep on bring in these reels

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