Auckland Yakkers
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Topic: Auckland Yakkers
Posted By: Muppet
Subject: Auckland Yakkers
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2008 at 3:37pm
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Posted By: Naki man
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2008 at 6:06pm
Shet, you guys are secretive. I never new there was a place called Auckland - you do realize this is a New Zealand forum  Good report. Hard luck on the 20lbder - Sounds like you got a feed though ------------- The solution to any problem - work, money, love, whatever - is to go fishing - the worse the problem the longer the fishing trip should be. "I have a lot of very large problems" |
Posted By: Phishpula
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2008 at 6:29pm
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I feel you pain muppet seems you havent been the only one losing monsters this weekend. Me and Hermit got busted off also. Bring on next time! ------------- Turtle free since 2012 |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2008 at 7:07pm
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You mean there are fish in Auckland? Good on you for taking the initiative to start an Auck Yakkers thread. I'd do a Northern one, but I'd end up arguing with myself. ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: Hermit
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2008 at 8:05pm
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Auckland - Auckland??????????? Hmmmmm - thats north somewhere is'nt it??????
Hey - bugga about that one Muppet, but we've all been down that road before!!!!
Good to see the report!
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Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 12:06am
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Bad luck on the big mooch, sucks when you do all the hard work and then it suddenly turns to custard right at the boat. Still, bent rods and that flash of big red beneath the boat is what keeps us comin back. Tried Browns Bay for the first time today and seems like every other yakker in Auckland had the same idea. Several hours with bugger all bites (and lots of head scratching as to why so many boats thought it was spot x) then finally got lucky and fell over a 10 ish pounder plus a few other smaller pannies. Great way to break in the new P13 though nice day and a good feed. Very friendly bunch of yakkers out there too!
Anyone else do any good there on sunday?
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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 12:25am
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I didn't fish Browns Bay today but yes it's a very hit and miss place... and yes it can be like a supermarket out there at times, combination of easy parking, easy launch, easy paddle, and close structure I think...
I can sometimes be found there but normally head a little further north, but on Sunday I was in front of the box watching Bathurst... Well done on catching a feed though! ------------- http://www.kayakfishing.nz/forum/" rel="nofollow - www.KayakFishing.NZ Kayak Fishing - It's Catching! |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 6:04am
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Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 6:50am
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i dont feel any pian muppet what about my rod hard luck man ------------- Go the paddle power |
Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 8:45am
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Hey well I made my inaugural yak trip on Sat morning at Hatfields - chosen for criteria listed above, close to water, easy launch, easy carry blah blah. On the water before six, really a shake down trip to figure out what I could do better in terms of the rig... fish finder played up from the start. Fly fished the rocky headland at north end of beach (always wanted to know what sized houses were up there!) for some small kahawai, then tested anchor rigs by deploying them (yeah yeah boring for all the pros but it was a learning trip) - both anchor and drogue, then soft bait fished for some small snaps. Then chased gannets around. Then realised that gentle SW west pushes you a long way out to sea when you're having fun. The dodged stinkboats on way back. Home by 10 am.
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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 9:10am
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Hi Nick, Yes I've had a plan to do Hatfields for some time to do the "exercises", I'm still to yet deploy either of my anchors... and I haven't done the fall out and get back in practice yet either...  ------------- http://www.kayakfishing.nz/forum/" rel="nofollow - www.KayakFishing.NZ Kayak Fishing - It's Catching! |
Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 10:06am
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A couple of yakkers turned up as I was leaving.. seemed they were keeping gentleman's hours. Definitely a good spot to practice tipping out and getting back in, very user friendly place on an offshore wind. Not sure about fish potential though. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 10:18am
All good reasons indeed Muppet. The pattern is a good idea. I've had a landbased one for a while now that works most the time. In the stages of building one up for the 12footer and getting more and more good quality info.
Went out sunday morning early in my mates 12 and got a few of area said above. Some reasonable fish in there! ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Muppet wrote:Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 10:31am
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And where exactly are the "Torbay wormbeds"?
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 11:09am
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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 11:24am
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Thanks Muppet
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Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 2:04pm
| Did any of you soft plastics guys get dealt to by squid? On a couple of occasions I pulled up squid on the nuc chook and managed to shake them off before getting inked (yeah I know they would have made good bait but they are messy little *******). Anyway gave up on the SP's pretty quickly and tried with the pillies, seemed that the guys on smellies were the only ones catching anything where I was anyway. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 2:11pm
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Posted By: nylg1
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2008 at 8:26pm
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Nice report there Muppet Ya got to be gutted with that one on the plus side with these longer days gives you a few more hours to chase another...
I take it you are based on the north shore?
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 6:23am
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Posted By: nylg1
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 10:43am
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No out east...
I did fish quite a few times last summer over that side water seems to stay clearer over that side as well..
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 10:51am
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Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 10:59am
| ... and the sewage outflow is great for attracting many species as well! |
Posted By: Phishpula
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 3:49pm
This is a Kahawai that has been hanging around the poo ponds for too long. I wont comment on whats in its stomach! ------------- Turtle free since 2012 |
Posted By: MR MIYAGI
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 8:53pm
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hahaha!!yeah you can see it used to be quite a happy young kahawai.im glad they have moved the castor bay poo outfall further out to sea.. ------------- "There was an old man from Brussels,who was hooked on Opotiki mussels... |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 9:10pm
| Damn, that sweetcorn bait used to work so well too! How did we get to talking so much sh*t? |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2008 at 6:30am
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Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2008 at 6:08pm
| Went out again today off Browns Bay for a few hours, decent NE swell and about 12-15 knots. Wet ass, a few big ones rolled over the top but still great day out. Ended up with 3 pannies about 30-35cm and a Kahawai so wife happy enough, except the fact that I still smell like fish. What do women find so offputting about a nice fishy aroma?. Would be keen to know how you get on off Castor or Campbells Bay muppet, I haven't done either of those two. Go hard. |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2008 at 6:44pm
HALLELUJAH!  I read this out as Mrs. Dwarf frequently makes similar comments. Her reply? "Yes, it is off putting - It's because it's such a penetrating smell" - She still scoffs the fish happily enough though ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2008 at 9:07pm
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so am i going with then muppet or you going to be a bum and go alone ------------- Go the paddle power |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 6:15am
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Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 7:11am
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man i wear the pants in my house i am going on sunday. not to sure about you though ------------- Go the paddle power |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 7:13am
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Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 7:15am
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ae you still coming over tonight give me a call first man if you are ------------- Go the paddle power |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 7:17am
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Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 7:18am
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answer your work phone man ------------- Go the paddle power |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 10:20am
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Nice one ambo on getting out there it does cut up in a NEster out there by the reef. Bait or SBs? [/QUOTE]
No luck on the SP's so far, just seems to be the good old smelly pillys and bonito berley. No wonder I smell so frikken good!
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 11:30am
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Posted By: SLaine
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2008 at 9:13pm
| The weather is looking good for sunday, Im thinking i will go out somewhere but havent got anywhere in mind yet. If anyone is keen or is planing something and doesnt mind me tagging along drop me a pm. |
Posted By: pizzaeater
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 2:50pm
Went out off Campbells Bay this morning, unfortunately had a bit of a late night so didn't get on the water until about 9. I was softbaiting and did not get 1 single bite over a 2.5 hour period... Packed up and went home via the fish shop  ...This was the first time I had been kayak fishing in this area, I have fished off the rocks previously at campbells bay (actually caught nothing then also) and people around me caught good fish so I know there are fish there. How do you geezers find softbaitng off the kayak at the moment? I have been out 5 times over the last 4 weeks and caught one good sized snapper! My fishing buddy also uses softbaits but has had more luck and never gets skunked but I am starting to get disheartened and thinking about switching back to good old smelly bait! |
Posted By: piwikiwi
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 3:52pm
| Dont give up Pizzaeater just try to refine your technique. Always use a drift chute to slow yourself down, cast ahead, use the correct size jighead weight depending on current etc, and keep in touch with the softbait so you dont miss any bites. Try and go out with some others who softbait and follow their styles if they are catching. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 3:55pm
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 4:38pm
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Got spanked bay a pretty reasonable fish that took a soft bait early yesterday morning down walking the rocks between castor and cambos. nothing after that but tide did come in and push me off my spot. I think they are there...
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Posted By: pizzaeater
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 8:12pm
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Yeah I was using a drift shoot but drifting really fast today (need to make a bigger shoot) with quite a strong wind when I first went out. Tried to postion myself to drift close to the rocks where all the rock fisherman go (it was high tide so they were covered). Did that for a quite a while then saw a few birds working the next bay up and decided to head over, but by the time I got there it was all over... Oh well, it was a good fun morning though. What colours/types of softbaits seem to be working for people at the moment? Yeah, squid... I had one follow my softbait right up to my kayak a couple of weeks ago off stanmore bay... Those buggers are agressive.. I was amazed the way it was attacking the softbait.. It got so close to my kayak I could have put my hand in the water and pulled it out.. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 6:33am
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Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 8:23am
| Hit the Browns Bay reef last nite, arrived just as another yakker was leaving. Drfited around until high tide, a couple of pannies was all. |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 1:18pm
Heh heh - chasing workups is a different story in a yak If you have a sounder, keep your eyes on where it was and have a snoop in the area. The workup is the visible action, but there will usually be something following behind picking up the bits.You don't need a really big drogue for a yak. Are you attaching the drogue to the pointy bits or just off the side of the yak? If you're side on to the wind, you will still drift quite fast (More so if the current is going the same way). ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 1:19pm
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Anyone heading up north for Labour weekend out of interest?
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 2:06pm
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Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 2:15pm
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Spend as much time out there at possible...need you ask Was planning on bumming around the entrance to Whangaroa...or somewhere. ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 2:21pm
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Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 2:25pm
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Keri
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 2:37pm
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Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 3:05pm
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Nothing wrong with it - just nice to have a change of scenery from time to time ...And the armada, of course. ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 3:18pm
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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 3:21pm
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Yep I'd be keen to come up and have a fish up there HLD one day too (not this weekend), sounds like we might need to plan a boys trip up north... ------------- http://www.kayakfishing.nz/forum/" rel="nofollow - www.KayakFishing.NZ Kayak Fishing - It's Catching! |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 3:38pm
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Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 3:56pm
| Pick me! Pick me!!!!! |
Posted By: MR MIYAGI
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 7:54pm
banzai,has anyone tried the taka cliffs,ive read in the reports forum that it can be quite good close in to the reef and cliffs,but the fizz boats cant get right in.Im thinking this could be yak country?tides/spots appreciated... ------------- "There was an old man from Brussels,who was hooked on Opotiki mussels... |
Posted By: pizzaeater
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 9:44pm
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Hey HLD, attached the drogue to the points of the yak using a running rig but the shoot I have been using is made from some old material out of the garden. It was a first attempt and although it works pretty well it could be a touch bigger.. I definitely see a sounder and a GPS as being the way forward... Maybe Santa will be kind this year! Seeing you are up that way, have you ever fished of coopers beach/ around Mangonui? I was up there over christmas and saw some dude catch the biggest snapper I have ever seen off the rocks at the north end of the beach.. Next time I go up I was going to have a paddle around and try my luck... |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 10:01pm
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Ah. Thought it was a premade one - that could answer the problem. Take the yak and drift around the entrance of Mangonui hbr. Make sure your drag is finely tuned and ready to go  Suggest sounder before GPS, if Santa gets a bit touchy about what he stuffs into your stocking ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 10:37pm
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Fished Taka Cliffs today. Definitely worthwhile yak country MR Miyagi! The fishing can be great there at times between yellow buoy and inside channel markers, but crap at other times (for no apparent reason). Got lucky today with 3 nice pannies about 35-40cm and a good trev about 6lb (20 minute fight on 4kg). Just beware on light tackle - I got busted off in the kelp by a couple of express trains today (I'm pretty sure they were big trevs) |
Posted By: pizzaeater
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 10:44pm
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Thanks for the tip, HLD I will keep that in mind.. Might be heading up that way in the next couple of weeks and will give it a go... If Santa is listening, I think my stockng is just about big enough for a GPS/sounder combo unit.. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 6:36am
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Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 8:03am
| Ambo - where you launching from, the boat ramp? |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 1:04pm
| I launch off the Hauraki corner end of Taka beack Nick, parking can be a pain though but if you've got a trolley it shouldn't be a problem. Just head out to the right a few hundred metres and you will see the yellow cable buoy, just drift around out there until you get bites then put the pick down. |
Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 5:58pm
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I know it drops off there real quick thats why the snaps are there. they also follow the squid in close. the squid has somthing in them to start the spawning process. thats why around this time of the year squid is the best bait ------------- Go the paddle power |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 11:08pm
| Yeah I have heard that, might have to slap a hunk of squid on the end of half a pilly and see if that gets them excited. The ones I have gutted certainly don't have squid in them though, just seems to be bits of crab and shell. There never seems to be much action on the sounder off Taka but I think they must just move through in patches, right place right time (and berley is a must). Has anyone had any luck on plastics off Taka? |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 6:30am
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Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 4:47pm
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last spapper i filleted had alot of kina in it so even try some kina berley might get them keen too
muppet wat you got planned for us this weekend bro ------------- Go the paddle power |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 3:42pm
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Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 7:56pm
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sounds good to me
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Posted By: HOKISMOKE
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2008 at 11:37am
| Hi Muppet, Where are yo going to head out from? |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2008 at 11:47am
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And when? I might just tag along too...
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Posted By: fotoman
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2008 at 1:05pm
  getting better in the auckland region. last sunday i caught 15 snapper and 1 gurnard, released 12, kept 2 aprox 40cms and a 9 and 8 pounder. a good fight on 4kg and soft baits. if you look close enough you can see my secret weapon. ps a p13 might be slow but it aint no flower pot. im paddling around 10 ks on most trips and up against some strong winds......no worries. will be hitting the top of the coromandel in the next few weeks,cant wait.got one of those soft squids to see if i can get a kingfish, hooked a few 80 pound +monsters but they find the rocks before i can put the pressure on. lost my sunglasses and almost my rod on an aprox 50 pounder and it almost pulled me in twice, shook the lure just as i was struggling for my gaff. didn't have a rigged fishing kayak then just one of my kids little yaks, i should have a better chance now. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2008 at 2:01pm
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Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2008 at 4:41pm
| Good haul fotoman I'm sure the 12 you released were even bigger than that! I'm a member of the P13 club - they are a great fishing machine. Kingies would pose a wee challenge I'm sure, just getting towed around by a decent snapper is a bit of fun. As you say, gotta be organised at the boat tho aye, hate to think how many yakkers have lost good fish like that! |
Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2008 at 7:21am
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Good stuff dude i hope to get a haul like that too this summer
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2008 at 6:34am
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2008 at 6:36am
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Posted By: Hermit
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2008 at 6:30pm
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Dam good effort there fotoman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go the green prowlers!!!!!!!!! ------------- Connoisseur of fine beers and ales! |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2008 at 8:56pm
| Have leave of absence from wife and kids for the day on friday so gonna redeem all accumulated brownie points. Not sure where to launch from at this stage but will accept any pearls of wisdom on offer...sounds like east coast beaches have been a bit slow lately but might look at Taka again and just berley up hard. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2008 at 6:41am
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Posted By: kingibasher
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2008 at 5:35pm
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sweet muppet ready for ya txt me when you leave work
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Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 3:20pm
| Skunked at Taka today, lots undersize snaps plus Jac Mac's in the berley trail which were a pain in the arse not to mention a penguin giving them a hurry up. Kingies chasing piper like crazy at the St Leonards green marker, great to see but I was a bit slow on the plastics. Lots of diving gannets around but no sooner to you paddle over to them they bugga off. Too windy out wide but quite sheltered in under the cliffs, change of light might be worth a go but to sum up the day ...hard yaka at the taka! |
Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 4:13pm
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Better than a kick in the bum though yeah? |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 10:39am
| A kick in the bum is what I would of got from the wife if I wasn't back in time for her to go to the "parent and child show"....mmmm.....the sacrifices we make! |
Posted By: pizzaeater
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 11:12am
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I have almost forgotten what it is like to catch a fish.... Went out nice and early this morning off castors bay... Softbaiting again and skunked again! Talked to the few guys in boats around me.. They were using squid and while they were not catching large or large numbers of fish they were at least catching something! Normal baits for me next time... |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 11:35am
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Hmm I'm with you on the softbait PE, it's just not happening for me either, didn't really want to end up with a smelly yak but I don't think there is much choice... I might join the Hibiscus club guys Sunday morning off Narrowneck for one last softbait attempt... ------------- http://www.kayakfishing.nz/forum/" rel="nofollow - www.KayakFishing.NZ Kayak Fishing - It's Catching! |
Posted By: pizzaeater
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 11:50am
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You know I have tried pretty much everything, different weight jig heads, different styles, different colours, slow retrieves, fast retrieves, different times of the day, different depths, close to shore, far from shore, casting into the rocks etc etc... You name I have tried it over the last couple of weeks and I have had barely a measly bite! I think you have the right idea MD, I also need to go out with some others to get my faith in soft baits back.... |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 1:00pm
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PE & MD - You guys fishing blind, or using the sounder?
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Posted By: pizzaeater
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 2:14pm
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Fishing blind but not for long! I am going to put a sounder on in the next couple of weeks. I saw a guy pull in a couple of snapper today in a tinny as I drifted by him.. So I know they are there! Did that drift three times, no luck.. |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 3:25pm
Wait until you get the sounder - You'll never look back
------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 5:41pm
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Yep I've got my sounder installed - Navman 4500 - but to be honest I've never caught a fish under my kayak, always 10m off to the side or front...
I have fished out of a stink boat for the last 5 years, always driving out to Tiri or the Noises, just not used to fishing in close I think, I just need to get out more...
Cheers, Mental ------------- http://www.kayakfishing.nz/forum/" rel="nofollow - www.KayakFishing.NZ Kayak Fishing - It's Catching! |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 6:25pm
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MD - If you're drifting off the bays, just try dropping a spare line with an SP down so it bounces along on the bottom about 20m behind you - The action of the yak will do the rest. You can then actively fish the main SP rod casting ahead of you. This is how I got into SPs, when I was pulling in more fish on the 'ignored' line than the smellybait I was using. ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 9:50am
| I read an article in Fishing news by Stephen Tapp about trolling sp's while heading out to or between fishing spots, and while I didn't catch anything on it the other day I had two bites. Just did the slow "s" shaped thing while paddling, which drops it down then makes it scoot away. My problem was not getting around to strike in time once the ratchet went off - would take a run then drop it (and no it wasn't the bottom, unless the bottom has dentures). I think you have to put the drag up quite hard to sink the hook, especially when it takes time to drop the paddle, turn around and then strike. No luck on stationary plastics though, unless you count my eel and starfish! |
Posted By: Charlie F
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 10:10am
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Ambo dont troll with ratchet on in freespool, you're asking for the mother of all birdsnests if using free spool reels. Troll with a moderate to light drag setting, you dont need to strike fish hook themselves. You catch heaps of kahawai trolling. I have also caught snapper trolling SPs around work ups and even a trevally trolling around a harbour. Paddle tails work really well. If you have a scotty rod holder or similar in front of you keep your rod in there so you can keep an eye on it. reaching around behind you to grab a rod can destabilise the yak if you move too fast. Dont do your drag up too tight or you can get some spectacular bust offs! I can vouch for that. ------------- So many fish, so little time, |
Posted By: ambo364
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 10:45am
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Thanks for that Charlie, yep thats one of the draw backs of those type of reels but just trolling a swivel the length of the affected line seems to fix it pretty well. As for fish hooking themselves, I have mixed views on this (probably due to my lack of success in sp fishing), but doesn't it depend on how agressively they are feeding? Also, I have heard Tiny Coe and other sp specialists say to strike hard several times in order to "sink the hook".
Anyway, might have to ask santa for one of the other style of reels with the star drag for trolling. Now I know why the pro's always have so many rods! Cheers mate.
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Posted By: Charlie F
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 10:58am
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Absolutely if fishing SPs whilst casting and retrieving you need to strike the fish quite hard to set the hook, this can be a bit tricky because sometimes the fish seem to just mouth the SPs and you can pull the SP out of the fishes mouth where as other times they hammer it and hook themselves. When trolling the fish will hook themselves most times. Its good having 2 rods but if you just have an SP rod just cast it out with your SP on and troll it between spots. When drifting do the same when paddling back up to the top of your drift. It can be a bit of a pain if there are lots of kahawai around if you're paddling back up wind as you can get blown back quite a way while dealing to the kahawai. ------------- So many fish, so little time, |
Posted By: Rainbow
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 1:46pm
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I think some of you are confusing dragging on the drift with trolling under paddle power.
HLD's advice is a good one for working SP's or bait for that matter on the bottom behind the yak with the rod in the hand or in the rod holder. Most of the time you will need a drogue to slow you down to keep a Sp dragging near the bottom. Keep the drag on enough so that fish hook themselves but without busting you off. Dragging with Mr Rodholder is getting little mention by the gurus despite its obvious success rate. It just isn't cool nor does it require big $$$$ tackle. Just think about it, a dragged lure is fishing all the time and fish hook themselves, while a cast Sp is only a short while in the strike zone with a lot of strikes missed on the slack line drop.
The same drag setting also applies to trolling, KY, Kingies or albacore. For trolling it is best to have the rod in a centre rod holder forward enough so that it does not interfer with paddling. If you troll from a rear rod holder you will not see missed bites and might not even know when you got a small fish on.
Rainbow
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