surf fishing /kiwi ingenuity
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Printed Date: 10 Jun 2026 at 9:45pm
Topic: surf fishing /kiwi ingenuity
Posted By: paulylovesfishing
Subject: surf fishing /kiwi ingenuity
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 10:14am
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hey guys any little tricks you have done to improve/make your life easier while fishing of the beach/rocks homemade inventions or rigs etc couple I Use is a Long peice of pvc strapped to a waratah for my of the beach rodholder ------------- "support the kahawai petition" |
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Posted By: paulylovesfishing
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 10:18am
this is a boat rod holder template cheap and effective- not my idea though
 ------------- "support the kahawai petition" |
Posted By: paulylovesfishing
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 10:19am
 ------------- "support the kahawai petition" |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 10:31am
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Back when I was a kid I use to make small burley pots out of film canisters with a few wholes through them and stuffed with fish scraps. Would attach them to my swivel via a snap and cast out so that I had some burley action right near the bait. Use to make it easy to cast unweighted baits too ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 10:55am
"back when i was a kid" whats this are you over the hill now JK------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 11:00am
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PAUL forget the waratah just use a piece of plastic 60ml pipe lenght depending on how high you want the holder ,work that in to sand works fine and also works well on rocks easy to jam in some where ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 12:29pm
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or to take it one step further... Piece of PVC pipe (gotta love this stuff!) with a short length of concrete rebar hose clipped on to it for those teeny, tiny cracks in the bricks. After leaving one behind, I made a rush job for a trip and it was only duct taped on and is still going after three years. For fishing livies, a small carabiner on the end of your anti-freight train tether will slide down and sit nicely at the bottom of the rebar giving a good strong anchor point (if your tether is long enough) ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 12:32pm
That's a serious fishing trip (assuming you have another ten rods out the other side  )------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
paulylovesfishing wrote:Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 12:35pm
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At low tide, bury your weighted berley bomb in the sand, run length of cord back to HT line. Once enough water has covered it, give the cord a yank and pull the berley out of the sand. It'll sit there doing its thing, and an occasional pull on the cord will give another puff of goodies into the water if you want to. ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 12:58pm
I'll be 30 very soon mate! It's all down hill from here! ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 1:10pm
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- Use a rolled sheet of 2 ply bathroom tissue as impact shield on your surfcasting ledger rig.. they bust out when wet. I can give further details on this if anybody is interested. - You can use worn out spark plugs as weights. - The cork from a wine bottle can be put thrugh the trace just above the bait to make it float above the bottom. ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 1:21pm
I thought you would feel that when u reach 40! I'm 30'ish at the mo so looking forward to da big 4oh! ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 2:09pm
, be a walking frame next,and an electric reel. ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: riga
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 2:21pm
I like this idea alot paulylovesfishing, can easily make it adjustable too, by using a wing nut and a runner for the bolt to go through at the bottom to change the angle of the rod tip to the water, might have to make some of these up I think, cheers ------------- put a smile on your dial or you won't see me for a while |
Posted By: paulylovesfishing
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 3:16pm
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this is brilliant guys I especially liked the fil canister trick genuis and the corks cool keep im coming guys ------------- "support the kahawai petition" |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 3:24pm
keep it in your pants mate! Dont get too excited ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: paulylovesfishing
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 3:33pm
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very tactful Jk ------------- "support the kahawai petition" |
Posted By: Finatic
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 4:18pm
All very interesting. Some great ideas!... but do you take your boat down to the beach with you when you go surfcasting? ... Sorry!
JK, wash your mouth out with a dirty pillie! Nothing wrong with the dirty 30s mate!  ------------- What's the cheapest type of meat? Dear balls. They're under a buck. |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 6:06pm
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Only 30 eh . . . . . . . . . oooohhh I wish I was only 30 again.
That idea of buring your burly in the stand does work reall well. Need some weight in the bag or a bit of folded over rebar stuck into the sand to stop in coming back in too soon. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 6:22pm
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From experience - it probably wouldn't hurt to whack a 12/0 hook onto the bugger too. Only 30 eh? Wait til you get to the filthy forties.... Things really start sagging. Forget trying for that six-pack gut and settle for a keg ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 6:39pm
That's actually a bloody good idea. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: cosmo
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 7:18pm
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jeez 30 get real ------------- i just want to go fishing..........amd ignore all my adult problems |
Posted By: rockmaniac
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 7:52pm
AND.. thats why rockmaniac uses a kayak now that im officially over the hill ...... no more up hill only down hill.
i allways carry first aid kit also contains sun block, insect repellent, soap, panadol etc dont leave home without it. can be the difference between a good day or bad. ------------- Fishing is not a matter of life or death its FAR more serious than THAT. |
Posted By: kingiman
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 12:56am
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Ive found some times using a tennis ball threaded on my trace when
surfcasting/rock fishing, keeps the bait up of the sand/rocks and away
from the crabs etc ,also provides a good weight for casting. ------------- The best time Fishing is when its raining when its not raining or if you are married, When ever you are allowed to! |
Posted By: SeaI
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 8:16am
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i was thinking about when burleying on the edge of a tidal drop off that you fish when teh tide rises, that it's not cool to leave your nylon bag out there, as in most cases you won't be around to collect a the next low tide. HLD's idea, with the rope to retrieve is good, but I thought that if you could get, or learn to make a flax waeve burley bag, that you could secure it in place and then no worries about losing it or leaving it in the sea.
Fished the tairua estuary edge on the weekend for lots of kahawai and one big bust off, fought like a trev, but appeared that the trace was bitten??? Untold eagle rays cruised the edge in packs at low tide, unbelievable amounts. Not sure I would want to burley there and attract all the rays ------------- Kei uta ngā ika |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 8:38am
Someone say Rays? [Books holiday to Tairua] ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 8:49am
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Murrays Bay Wharf is you place to go for rays! a few residents that just love yellowtails dangled in front of them! ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 9:38am
------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 9:43am
Kingiman have used a tennis ball before work's well  and give's you a good casting distance when useing a light bait.just screw a small screw through a small swivel in to t/ball and slip through trace ,have used in surf to good effect as well ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Finatic
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 9:50am
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Tennis balls also come in handy for securing your berley bag when you're fishing off the rocks.
Drill hole through tennis ball, thread berley rope through, deploy berley and wedge tennis ball in rock crevice. You can adjust the amount of line out by tying a stopper knot where the line exits the tennis ball ------------- What's the cheapest type of meat? Dear balls. They're under a buck. |
Posted By: SeaI
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 11:59am
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MIL's place is 2 doors from Epics and the boat stares me in the face from the back deck...trying to resist kingy jigging trip, will fail in the end ------------- Kei uta ngā ika |
Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 2:59pm
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so the tennis ball acts as a full float and the bait sits what ever depth you set it to and you watch the tennis ball to detect bites? i don't have much to share, except maybe marking you gaff with the minimum lengths for fish, 25, 27, 30 and 75 cm that way it's always there and saves bringing extra gear (gaff always goes fishing with me, don't always need it, but if you need it and don't have it you really kick yourself) |
Posted By: 1000PA
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 1:21am
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A bit like Hairy little dwarf's idea but here goes -
Fishing 90 mile beach we used to arrive at low tide and walk out as far as we could with x4 tins of "Chef" cat food after we'd poked many holes in them. We'd bury them in the sand and fish over them when the tide rose. Worked a treat. Can't say it was very green though. But at least those tins would rust away.
Ross
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Posted By: SeaI
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 7:59am
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true irons sands and all that ------------- Kei uta ngā ika |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 8:12am
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sling shots seem to be popular now lets you get the berly cubes out to were your casting ,also keeps the gulls a bay ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 8:14am
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Whizz just stick one of MAFs measure's on the gaff go round nicely on a broom sized handle ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: fisher
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 4:01pm
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This is an idea of my mate Kevin's, which he used to use when he lived up North. Not strictly a surfcatsing idea, but used to catch fish in the surf. It's simple but hard to explain.
At low tide, wade in the sea and deposit a heavy weight (he used the weights out of sash windows) as far out as you think good fish will be at high tide, say 60m. Drop another one about 80m up the beach, the same distance out in the surf.
Then rig up a line going from your high tide spot on the the beach, directly out to the first weight, though a loop attached to the weight, then parallel to the beach, through the second weight, then back to the beach. At high tide you attach your hooks and bait to the line, get a mate to pull on the other end, and your hooks are dragged out to the first weight, by now 50m out to sea. Your mate then attaches his hooks and bait to his line, and you pull your end. Hopefully by then you'll have some fish on your end, which you deal with as the fish get hooked on his hooks. Then just continue. You can also attach some berely to the weights as you drop them out at low tide.
Been meaning to have a go, but you need a half day buggering about the beach. Hasn't happened for a while.
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Posted By: 1000PA
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 7:18pm
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Another trick we used when fishing depended on the bottom. If it was particularly rocky and likely to loose a lot of sinkers then we'd tie with a rubber band a couple of spark plugs, and use those for sinkers. Also when the current isn't big but you wanted a bait out wide we'd use thick small size paper bage full of sand or stones (whatever you find locally) mixed up with some scrap bait (when the bag breaks the contents become ground bait). This was all cast out and the bag would get soaked quickly thus breaking up and the hook would now be free. Made some excellent catches this way.
Ross
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