Bio -Baits Produce the goods
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Topic: Bio -Baits Produce the goods
Posted By: Men In Black
Subject: Bio -Baits Produce the goods
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 8:48am
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I know this forum is sponsored by SLAM but I just had to mention how the Bio-Baits from Go-Fish performed in Aussie out at the Great Barrier reef and more importantly in our own backyard at Waiheke over these last few winter days. Doing my bit for the environment in Aussie I only used non toxic Bio-degradable softbaits, so only Bio-Baits and Gulps were used as these were the only ones I used, and all manner of tropical species were caught , most with lots of teeth. The first thing you will notice about the Bio's is the thick paste gooh that they put in the packets, I will be asking Greg at Go-Fish if they can reduce this somewhat as it can make it a little slippery and messy getting them on the hooks and jigheads. That aside though the bait are fully scented throughout and hit the water running with scent oozzing out straight away, they have a great action if matched to the correct weight Jig head and hooks. It's hard to compare them to Gulp or anyother softbait for that matter because of their composition being a plastic that dosen't contain petrolium, and no one eles was using softbaits of my recent Aussie trip. They aren't a protein based product and they are reported as a non toxic bio-degradable softbait (as claimed by the manufacturer and accepted by the FDA in the USA). Second thing to stand out is they can take a good strike without falling apart on the first hit (unless that big 20lber gets it) as mentioned a lot of the species on the Reff had teeth and they stood up really well to the point where I was averaging 3-4 fish and I got the same result here in NZ on our local species, my best results being 8 fish before a bait change.
Some may see a down fall as they will still get hit by some of the unwanted species like Leatherjackets and Squid, but this only proved they will attract a good range and varity of fish.
The range at present is limit to 2 sizes and 1 shape as you would expect when first bringing a new product into the country, the 4" and 6" shads are currently available at Go-Fish and I believe another outlet is going to stock them south of the bridge. The colour range will be extended from 6 to 9 on future shipments to cover the some of gaps with some new and exciting choices available.
With our winter in full grips I have found that the smaller 4" Bio's are the bait size to go for around the shallows and reef structures when wash fishing. Snapper are in full winter mode and looking to feed on smaller baits when hungry and yes softbaits DO WORK IN WINTER, you just need to modify your tactics to suit, something of a hot topic at present.
In my own opinion if I had to rate them from 1-10 they would get an 8+, mainly because of the excess of gooh in the packets, this however is a minor thing and I'm sure it will be addressed, the other being the varity of shapes, it would be good to see a larger size and possably a few different shapes like a grub or poggy.
All in all they are a great softbait and as good as the best I've tried, they will be a great addition to the softbait market.
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 9:11am
I managed to get me some of the packets that you didn't buy up from Go Fish, thanks for leavin us some mate
Like the action on em its just that bloody goo on it, I washed it off but thats gotta be done in warmish water cause it solidifies in cold water. I guess its some sort of oil? Anyway, they worked a charm without the sauce on them too, just a pity it wasn't for me. I lent them to a mate and he slayed em. I guess more and more reports like these and we may have a serious contender to knock into gulp for the coming summer. Not to mention the non-toxic bio-degradable side of things that will satisfy some of the greener fishos too
It'll take a lot to stop Tiny snaffeling up all the wave worm snakes tho aye
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 10:29am
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Yes Badfish... Tiny does love his Tikiman Snakes, we are getting spoilt for choice with the varity of softbaits at present, Gulp would still have to be tops for selection of colours and shapes, they now have more chicken flavours than KFC. Can't wait for the SLAM but they wouldn't want too many more baits like Bio-Bait to move into the market while we wait for their release date.
Interesting to note that you also found the gooh a little over done and you were right about washing it off, I didn't find it impead their effectiveness at all, they still worked 3 days latter after being left out of the packet, another good selling point they don't dry out and shrivel up. I had left one or two in the Sports boat for a couple of days and even in 25-26degC they went straight onto the hook and produced several Coral Trout and a Red Throat Sweet Lip. You also get x10 off in the 4" or x8 off in the 6" per packet, with the price of everything going up it represents pretty good value.
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 10:34am
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In my humble exprience they started off with a hiss and a roar but the last two times my results were a little mixed at best.
Somedays the fish seem to have preferences but much as I hate to say it the most consistent performer was gulp and squidgies.
Will try with the smaller bios more - they look the goods.
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 10:46am
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For me bio baits have fixed a couple of the more undesirable things I didn't like about gulps, like the drying out, what to do with a bait that was untouched but wet and not meant to go back into the packs... etc.
If they ever come out with a grub tail and more colours I will be a very happy man.
The excess of the goo seems to be a fairly common complaint within my mates. We bought a few packs but were so put off by the goo that we'd all but written them off as to much of a pain. I will continue to wash the excess off but I would obviously prefer to have a product ready to go from the packet. Can't see many of my mates bothering to do that when they could just buy gulps.
Either way, this is leading to be another pretty exciting summer trying out new baits/techniques, with some madais finding their way into the tackle cave also!
Just hope I don't ginx it
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 10:53am
Redfinger, good to here your opinion on them, I did find that size and colour played a big part on the harder days as well, hopfully some of the colour gaps will be filled with the Bio's. Interesting to see the Squidgies working well for you, I have tried them extensivley with mixed results, some days you just couldn't miss with them, others even though the fish were there they just wouldn't hit them. Then you through them something different and BANG into them again.... thats fishing...no bloody rules except size and numbers
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 11:06am
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Yet to try those Madias Badfish they look the business for the deeper areas where there are no real bust off structure, I see the Japanese have been developing them over the past few years with great effect. I did try a type of these last summer, it consisted of one of our #3 Deepwater rigs, a 7" Gulp poked up the middle of one of those cheap coloured squid lure skirts and a 6/0 long shank hook, worked well on the Snapper even after the Gulp got bitten off.
You and I need to go out when the weather gets a little better and do some experimenting with another idea I have.
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 11:09am
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The scented 110 squidgies saved the day for me last two trips. Lemon, Pillie or punkin seed all good. Naughty cudas like the lemon ones a bit too much.
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 11:19am
Not much those f----ing Cudas won't take
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 11:34am
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MIB - you could catch good snapper on any sp (even unscented OMG!) you are that good!
U would be welcome out with me anyday but would need passport to get past border control at Bridge.
What is it with you southern men - tightlines, AP, Otter BTW - Just get over it and move north.
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 12:12pm
Badfish wrote:
like the drying out, what to do with a bait that was untouched but wet and not meant to go back into the packs... etc. |
Just dry them out on your **** and they can go back in the pack. I have been doing this for a long time and have had on probs Dean
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 1:18pm
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Redfinger, I know the Comander of the Police force over the bridge pretty well so all should be good for getting a Visa
We will continue to make our regular pilaging rades into the winterless areas north of the bridge on regular occations. Our next big rade is with Damo on the 27th Aug... can't wait to fill the bins as I missed out on the last one.
I don't know about this catching good snapper on anything bit... there's been days when I've struggled to catch a cold let alone a fish but things have looked rosie just of late and some winter softbait tactics have really paid off big time.
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 2:50pm
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Definitey different than summer but very rewarding and I have found average size better than summer. You don't mind if there is a bit of time between fish so long as you know u are in the right place and they will turn up and pull some string soon.
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 5:10pm
Men In Black wrote:
Yet to try those Madias Badfish they look the business for the deeper areas where there are no real bust off structure, I see the Japanese have been developing them over the past few years with great effect. I did try a type of these last summer, it consisted of one of our #3 Deepwater rigs, a 7" Gulp poked up the middle of one of those cheap coloured squid lure skirts and a 6/0 long shank hook, worked well on the Snapper even after the Gulp got bitten off.
You and I need to go out when the weather gets a little better and do some experimenting with another idea I have. |
I'm there! I've done some decorating to the down under rigs too so will be interesting to see how it goes. Will try narrow somethings out before august
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Posted By: Tiny
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2008 at 7:39am
A BF I got ya back for the 27th gave MIB a couple $ to get me a good mix of Bio-b and Tikis I promise to keep mys eyes of ya SSSSnakes on the next trip   .
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Posted By: tightlines2
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2008 at 11:50am
Redfinger wrote:
MIB - you could catch good snapper on any sp (even unscented OMG!) you are that good!
U would be welcome out with me anyday but would need passport to get past border control at Bridge.
What is it with you southern men - tightlines, AP, Otter BTW - Just get over it and move north. |
Hey RF I'm only too keen to get back up there again. My next booked excursion is with Damo on the 27 Aug, but I'm happy to come before if I can organise it 
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2008 at 7:12pm
How can you moan about the juice in biobaits or sauce smells better then the crap on gulps and is one of the reasons they works so well i tke them out the packet and put them in a tray and they still have some goo on them but its not really much of an issue if it smelt bad then it might be but a quick wipe with a towel and its sorted?
if you store them in a tray why not just wipe if off then put them away for me its a non issue they are awesome baits and after the "new" ones come out i will no longer have a reason to buy gulps
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Posted By: fastjig
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2008 at 9:38am
Bio bait lovers and Bio curious, We are just about to launch Bio baits to other tackle stores, If we don't get to your local stores who don't stock them, get them to emails us and we will get them going, both Bio and Wave worms!
Bio grubs In 5, 6 and 8 inch will be available for summer in all the cool colors.
Glow also will be available
Chz
GO FISH
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Posted By: fastjig
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 8:07am
The slimey liquid on the Bio bait, is what they are made out of, the liquid in its raw form apparently.
They contain No petrochemicals and they have been found to be dissolving in fishes stomachs.
Will have a web site up soon biobait.co.nz with stockists,
Cheers Greg
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 12:27pm
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Can't wait for those bio-grubs.... I imagine they may be a go to this spring for me
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 7:09pm
They contain No petrochemicals and they have been found to be dissolving in fishes stomachs.
Are those claims based on a scientific test or angler feedback...the reason i ask is ive been burning s/bs that are biodegradable and some are melting like plastic and giving off a black smoke...gulps and slams sizzle and sort of cook..no reason to burn the baits other than pure bordom ill burn some bio baits tonite and see what they do
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 7:20pm
What does one of them big wave worms go up like 
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 7:20pm
Burned some lastnight and they burn black and smoke black, also when the plastic cools down its like plastic ??? abit interesting
eitherway gimmie some grubs 
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 7:21pm
Moocha wrote:
What does one of them big wave worms go up like 
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at 3-4$ each you first lol
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 7:39pm
You wouldn't want to stand to close to the fumes tho good knows what could be in those fumes
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 8:21pm
dunno but gotta be cheaper then huff or crack
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 9:37pm
Im baking some in pastry...."bio pies "...set to take on big ben at thier own game ...those bio baits that are a lime tiger colour look bloody good...they will do the job when the water warms up a bit ..
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 9:39pm
dont forget the purple haze ones they are nice aswell - cant wait for these grubs greg is just one big cock tease get em in allready lol 
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Posted By: Mahiman
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 9:59pm
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So what do you all reckon about bio baits when compared with Gulps?
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 10:20pm
So far not as good but time will tell,im gunna get a few new colours and sizes and have a bit more of a play..the ones carbines got look superb so might just tax his supply
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 10:22pm
of2fsh wrote:
So far not as good but time will tell,im gunna get a few new colours and sizes and have a bit more of a play..the ones carbines got look superb so might just tax his supply  |
Go nuts - swap ya for some of those cob web ridden basstrix  Useless bugger has a full tray of them tasty lures and still uses glups
ALSO guys if you have some stimulate squirt it on the biobaits it thins out the goo and add extra sexy slamtastic smells
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Posted By: Mahiman
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 10:26pm
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I have been doing well with the 6" bio bait in pearl and have outfished gulp a few times.
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 10:33pm
Mahiman wrote:
I have been doing well with the 6" bio bait in pearl and have outfished gulp a few times. |
Yeah but your not useless like me you know your stuff 
Ive give the pearl a good whack and had afew hits
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 10:39pm
Stop picking on Mahiman and go back to your cat killing posts in the briny bar..And another reminder to keep clear of my cat
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 10:46pm
Read it mate - he said hes been doing well with pearl and i said well your not useless
Implying that i am not that he is - not a wise crack by any means he knows is stuff and im still a rank amature - no offence intended it reads ok to me ???
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 10:51pm
My bad...come around on the weekend if your not busy...might brave the elements and go fishing ..take few rhienecks out to keep us warm after the bimini went south on monday
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 6:54am
The bio-degradibilty of the Bio-Baits should be be good, they are made up of natural oils, like the ones you would find in Sunflower seeds and Olives. Like all oils they can be concentrated and plastisized, which would explain why they go to a goo when burnt, dont know about the black smoke though.... maybe over cooked
I will try another method to see how they break down in sea water over time.
Bio-Bait must have done their homework though as I see the FDA have approved their claims.
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Posted By: fastjig
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 8:04pm
New Bio Bait 5" and 8"Grubs...
Production has started on the new model grub shape, will post pics in the next few days.
Expected in stores end October.
Go the Grub!
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 8:07pm
primo any idea of how many to a pack? and colours make a pink one 
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 8:25pm
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Had 2 trips where bios completely outfished the gulps and two trips where gulp had a definite edge.
Still pretty even then in my books.
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Posted By: fastjig
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 10:58am
The New Bio Bait Saltwater Grub Pics as promised grubs, fresh out of the Bio bait machine this morning. They are making our order now and will be in stores November.
5 inch and 8" in 8 colours.
Go the Grub!
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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 12:12pm
grub porn nice
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Posted By: tightlines2
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 1:19pm
They look great, might have to add some of those to the truck load at home
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 8:40am
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Best snapper of the day yesterday was caught on a blood red bio 6 inch - healthy 3kg - 53cm.
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 8:41am
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Must get Bio Bait grubtails for summer Kingfish action...
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