Tint, Tiny, Tiny
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Topic: Tint, Tiny, Tiny
Posted By: billpears
Subject: Tint, Tiny, Tiny
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 8:36pm
why oh why do you make such GREAT rods mate!!!!
Went out and had a wee peek at the new Synit Rods, sheez, just couldn't help myself( had a case of the Boulder tass i think). Couldn't walk outa the place without this little number-------------
 It's a Synit 6-8kg 6ft6in 2pceGT-R number
And a Rod as good as this deserves the best (in my humble opinion) so am marrying it up with this wee number.
 A Trinidad12--ohboy what a combo Now all i gotta do is find me some Stren braid and we's off to White Island in a couple of weeks to give them both a work out.
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Posted By: pennyless
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 8:40pm
what an awesome set up you got to be rapped with that 
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Posted By: DIY!
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 8:42pm
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Damn that is a nice setup... I want one too
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Posted By: brown
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 9:35pm
thats some nice bling there Bill
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Posted By: Amateur
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 9:44pm
I was out there Saturday and saw a stand of 'em in the corner of the workshop, damn near cried.
One day, 6-8 two piece overhead with trigger grip. Even my Curado wants it.
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Posted By: LEVCAT
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 9:46pm
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 9:48pm
Posted By: Phats
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 9:50pm
Homo
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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 10:22pm
Immmmmmmm
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Posted By: phantomdeviant
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 5:54am
Thats bootiful. Look out fishy's
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Posted By: deltadreams
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 6:46am
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Bill, that's what I was going to get,but was told not until after the show!!!!
You must be higher on the hill that most of us!!!
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 6:50am
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Beautiful piece of work right there, but not just bling, she has substanc! Well done Bill you wont regret it
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Posted By: Tiny
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:29am
On ya Bill may the fish be with you mate . When we get out for that fish mate we will have to put name tags on our rods its the same set up as me....would not leave home with out my 12.
PS I have landed a 5 1/2ft bronze on my set go hard man.
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Posted By: wetdream
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:43am
Do you do a sprialwrap?
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Posted By: billpears
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:54am
Cheers guys, yep very proud of the set-up, gunna give it a work out with AP at White Island in a week or so.
Knew ya liked it Phatso
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Posted By: billpears
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:58am
Upps to Boulder as well, asked his advice on reels and got some sound advice. Thanks mate
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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:58am
Great set you have there Bill and when I get my act together in the next week or so My synit will be wearing a trini as well. Still like my Curado but you cant really match a trini for smoothness
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Posted By: otter
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 10:00am
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 1:51pm
I see another request for us to do a spiral wrap rod in GT-R. Spiral Wraps have been around for over 40yrs and aren't a new concept, they do assist those who have trouble with conventional overheads as they steady the wobble of the reel when pressure is applied by the fish but they can't be done to just any blank. The sprial twist rate needs to be worked out in accordance to the direction in which the rod blank was rolled, if you apply the guides in the wrong twist direction on the side of the blank or get the number of guides and spacing in the transition wrong the blank will be put under twist loading.
The guts of this is the blank action, spiral direction, the rate and length of twist needs to be matched and the current GT-R blanks have all been designed for either conventional Overhead or Spin, I am sure the GT-R blank would handle it but until we engineering a blank especially for sprial wrap I'm not going to risk producing a rod that looks good but dosen't function properly. Talking to a Norwegin rod builder who was making spiral wrap rods in his country many years ago, you need a minimum of 4 guides in the transition to get the action and loading distribution right, I showed him rods with 2 or 3 guides on the spiral which in his words, " zis is askin forz troubil at zum stage und you shouldn be pizzin round wiz shyt yuz knowz little aboutz, bezidz wez only developed it to makz it eszy forz personz whoz cant use a normil ozer head rodz uzerwiz all za rod manufacterz would haz made all zer ozer headz ziz way  "
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Posted By: wetdream
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 2:47pm
Just a YES or NO would have done.....
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Posted By: Skipjack
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:11pm
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Wetdream, Reel rods do acid wrapped rods same principal as a spiral wrap but only use`s one transition (bumper) guide to take the line from the top of the rod to underneath. They will be at the boat show in the fishing coast to coast stand and will have some acid wrapped soft bait rods built on 100% carbon (helical carbon core, no fiber glass scrim) )blanks (stronger, lighter, more responsive).
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:19pm
Men In Black wrote:
I see another request for us to do a spiral wrap rod in GT-R. Spiral Wraps have been around for over 40yrs and aren't a new concept, they do assist those who have trouble with conventional overheads as they steady the wobble of the reel when pressure is applied by the fish but they can't be done to just any blank. The sprial twist rate needs to be worked out in accordance to the direction in which the rod blank was rolled, if you apply the guides in the wrong twist direction on the side of the blank or get the number of guides and spacing in the transition wrong the blank will be put under twist loading.
The guts of this is the blank action, spiral direction, the rate and length of twist needs to be matched and the current GT-R blanks have all been designed for either conventional Overhead or Spin, I am sure the GT-R blank would handle it but until we engineering a blank especially for sprial wrap I'm not going to risk producing a rod that looks good but dosen't function properly. Talking to a Norwegin rod builder who was making spiral wrap rods in his country many years ago, you need a minimum of 4 guides in the transition to get the action and loading distribution right, I showed him rods with 2 or 3 guides on the spiral which in his words, " zis is askin forz troubil at zum stage und you shouldn be pizzin round wiz shyt yuz knowz little aboutz, bezidz wez only developed it to makz it eszy forz personz whoz cant use a normil ozer head rodz uzerwiz all za rod manufacterz would haz made all zer ozer headz ziz way  " |
Have you fished a custom made spiral wrap rod MIB ?????? thier is no sideways blank twisting if its built corectly on a high end blank..i see you have made comment on building them on blanks that are suitable but as you will no most blanks are different from one another..how do you pick out a blank thats suitable..shurly its still built with the spine ontop or directly underneath.....im shure Shimano have not gone and built a lowish end spiral wrapped rod without a bit of R+D and id say they would be in for a few replacements if they werent built correctly hence damaging the blank....Saying a spiral wrapped rod is for use by a person who cant use a conventional rod properly is bu llsh it,its 2008 not 1970.The coments from jimi the jig about the advantages of spiral wrapping a rod far out way the comments from a rod builder in Norway who shurly cant specialize in rods built for new zealanders..may be jimi is one of those that cant use a conventional rod properly..look in the jig hall of fame and you can see his credibility as a top jig fisherman using spiral wrapps...here in new zealand we make products for new zealanders to be fished in new zealand.. ..You have made a great rod on a NZ made blank and thats fantastic and something to be proud of..but bagging spiral wrapped rods before you have done the amount of research on them that myself and kojak have is a bit childish.Im shure one day you will make a spiral wrapped rod if a customer pushes as hard as i did with kojak to build me 1.After all custom rod building is building rods to suit the customers needs and the way he fishes.
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:23pm
JONATHAN wrote:
Wetdream, Reel rods do acid wrapped rods same principal as a spiral wrap but only use`s one transition (bumper) guide to take the line from the top of the rod to underneath. They will be at the boat show in the fishing coast to coast stand and will have some acid wrapped soft bait rods built on 100% carbon (helical carbon core, no fiber glass scrim) )blanks (stronger, lighter, more responsive). |
Whats this ....reel rods,kojak,GMV Rods and matt at just fishing are building spiral wrapped rods....bugger me these spiral wrapped rods are popular
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Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:33pm
I second that
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Posted By: fluffy1
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:41pm
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Not sure how big the kingfish are in Norway!!!!!! But I'm sure afters Jimis test they have proved themsleves. Not sure your post is totally accurate men in black.
I rate all the jigging master range as top of the line.
I rate acid wraps as something you will see more of.
Kojak acid wraps is where its at!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 9:01pm
I used MrI's PS400 at jimijigs boat christening {so what you say} Well the thing i looked for was rod twist and yes it twisted not much but it did. Kojaks Acid wrap 150 of jimijigs dose not twist at all ,so great blanks can be perfected. WELL DONE KOJAK you place those guide to perfection
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 9:43pm
Torsa wrote:
Kojaks Acid wrap 150 of jimijigs dose not twist at all ,so great blanks can be perfected. WELL DONE KOJAK you place those guide to perfection
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Absolutely right Torsa 
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 10:04pm
of2fsh wrote:
Whats this ....reel rods,kojak,GMV Rods and matt at just fishing are building spiral wrapped rods....bugger me these spiral wrapped rods are popular
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Cant argue with that lot,and he must of been the the last Norwegin rod builder alive,most were killed in WWII,aboard Merchant ships sunk by German U boats. Until your've held a Spiral Jak in your hands and put it through its paces....your just farting around with inferior cannon fodder. See ya on the Expert stand MIB.
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Posted By: Kojack
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 10:35pm
Men in Black
I have no problem's with you promoting the new Synit rod's.( or should i say KILWELL). But when you bag other designed rods i.e. Spiral wraps with out doing you home work it concerns me.
If you do not build a spiral wrap rod so be it. But to quote a Norwigin rod builder bagging spiral wrap rods.when it is very clear you have no concept of there design for promotion's of your own rods is not professional.
Every fisherman on this forum has different ideas of what they are looking for.What works for one mite not be every one's cup of tea,but sharing information is what makes this suite such a great place.
I for one have congratulated TINY on his good work.
You should concertrate on promoting this good work instead of bagging other design rods because you do not produce a spiral wrap rod.
KOJAK
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:20am
I have just finished a rebuild for a friend, it started life as a poorly built overhead rod which had a very small fore grip made from cork that was coming apart, guides that where to small and only 6 of them(For a 7ft rod just not enough). In saying that the blank did have a very nice action. I redid the whole rod except the bottom grip and put the guides on acid wrapped, it is now a very cool rod to use and the owner(a forum member) is very happy indeed.
My point is you can wrap ANY blank you like spiraled using as this will prevent rod twisting and you can use 1 bumper guide or 3 you just have to take the time to set the guides up properly.
I am sure Tiny will be up for the challenge and over the next month or two he will build one. He does after all make some very nice rods. Dean
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Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:40am
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fella's fella's...buggid if i can see any brand bagging happening here..way i see's it MIB's explanation is detailed and informative with a dash of humour, but his reason seems to be fair enuf to me as to why he aint doing a spiral wrap..
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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:57am
Actually Tobez, to quote that pratt who made this statement "zis is askin forz troubil at zum stage und you shouldn be
pizzin round wiz shyt yuz knowz little aboutz, bezidz wez only
developed it to makz it eszy forz personz whoz cant use a normil ozer
head rodz" is a real insult to a lot of very good fishermen on his site
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:29am
Where does it in the post name or bag another person or their product... it was a pretty straight forward explaination of us needing to know more about sprial wraps and the engineering before attemping to build one... sorry if it read otherwise ... we never have and nor would we ever bag others products... I did however explain that I had sort good advice from someone that has over 30 years of knowledge in building spiral wrap rods and simply gave an explanation that we (Synit) do not have the experience in building a spiral wrap... If anyone read in to it something different then thats another persons interprition of the post... It's good to see other rod builders have done their R&D and are happy to do a sprial wraps with good results, please take it as a complement. And when Alf advised it was for people that didn't know how to use an overhead... well I think the way it was written explains he was ony taking the pizz, why else would he have built them for over 30 years otherwise. Good to see debate is alive and kickin...
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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:37am
Dont be a dick Tobez, read what is says
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Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:39am
Bushpig wrote:
Actually Tobez, to quote that pratt who made this statement "zis is askin forz troubil at zum stage und you shouldn be pizzin round wiz shyt yuz knowz little aboutz, bezidz wez only developed it to makz it eszy forz personz whoz cant use a normil ozer head rodz" is a real insult to a lot of very good fishermen on his site
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guess it depends on how you read it..i read it as MIB trying to do a norwegian accent..harmless..how it insults any fisherman is something im keen to learn about..anyhoot got fish to catch
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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:43am
Well if you cant see it then I guess it needs spelling out
makz it eszy forz personz whoz cant use a normil ozer head rodz"
Sp people that use them, only do so because they cant use a normal rod. BS
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:48am
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All seems a bit to PC in here to me.
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Posted By: fluffy1
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 3:27pm
Men In Black wrote:
Where does it in the post name or bag another person or their product... it was a pretty straight forward explaination of us needing to know more about sprial wraps and the engineering before attemping to build one... sorry if it read otherwise ... we never have and nor would we ever bag others products... I did however explain that I had sort good advice from someone that has over 30 years of knowledge in building spiral wrap rods and simply gave an explanation that we (Synit) do not have the experience in building a spiral wrap... If anyone read in to it something different then thats another persons interprition of the post... It's good to see other rod builders have done their R&D and are happy to do a sprial wraps with good results, please take it as a complement. And when Alf advised it was for people that didn't know how to use an overhead... well I think the way it was written explains he was ony taking the pizz, why else would he have built them for over 30 years otherwise. Good to see debate is alive and kickin... |
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Posted By: fluffy1
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 3:45pm
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No men in black you didn't post name or bag another person. But I think most people on this site knew what you aiming at!!!!!
Kojak didn't have to Praise Tinys work, but he did because he understands the work that goes into rod building and appreciatres a good rod.
To come out with that post was a bit over the top,piss take or not.
Its not about being PC Badfish its about respecting rod builders efforts.
Its all very well testing them but the work that of2fsh and KOJAK have put in its hard not to take offence. As well as all the quality rod builders out there that of2fsh mentioned.
synit makes a bloody good rod no dought about it. But M.I.B comments were not warranted.
Enough Said.
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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:04pm
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Fluffy I think you have your feathers in a tangle as what MIB said was identical to the discussion we, that is he and I, had had a rew days previous. At no stage was any othe NZ rod builder mentioned and the only rod that was looked at was the Hots I had brought recently. Incidently Kojack gave that the thumbs up for a well executed spiral as it happens.
I own custom rods from Tiny , Kojack, and kerrion from real rods and have seen some of the guys work at Go fish and Dohboys work. I repect all of them for thier patience and enthusiasin in their products.
I asked MIB if there were plans to build spirals and he said they may when they had a much better understanding of the dynamics of building rods like that. Bloody good on him I say for wanting to be at the top of the game when he builds them.
Your statement
"But I think most people on this site knew what you aiming at!!!!! "
is plain wrong and a missunderstanding on your part.
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Posted By: fluffy1
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:11pm
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Fair enough Boulder I accept that.
But occasionally ones views can be misinterpreted by others in which ever way that they see it.
Cheers.
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:41pm
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Fluffy1, Thanks for coming back to Boulders comments, I have PM'd Kojak, Of2fsh, Bushy and ChrisW plus others regarding this thread and the fact that it has been totally misinterprated as a bagging of sprial wrap or worse a bagging on other rod builders... far from it ... more that Synit hasn't produced a sprial wrap because we have yet to understand more about the principals and dynamics of this feature. As I explained in my PM's to the above, we would rather ask and approach someone outside our industry in New Zealand so as not to be accused of encroaching on other Kiwi rod builders hard work. It is a small industry here in NZ and we fully understand that to crap in ones own nest would be foolish. But it does disturb me somewhat that when admitting we have yet work on understanding more of the sprial wrap concept it gets turned around that we bagged others hard work, developements and acheivements. Please feel free to PM me at anytime or call me on my cell and Cudos to those who have had sucsess with the Sprial wraps.
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:42pm
I really think I must have read the post and taken it in another manner than some who IMO seem to be a little hyper sensitive about the subject.
I didn't take it that MIB was baggin spiral wrapped rods at all. I took it that they (synit) weren't ready to produce a spiral wrapped rod especially since he said
Men In Black wrote:
I am sure the GT-R blank would handle it but until we engineering a blank especially for sprial wrap I'm not going to risk producing a rod that looks good but dosen't function properly. |
I took the quote from the norwegian in humor and as it being directed to them (synit) as rod builders, not as an all out attack on the concept of spiral wrapped rods.
It looks to me that things were read between the lines (things that it has now been explained were not there) and from there it just turned into a ego trip in my opinion.
I'm not even entirely sure who its thought these posts were directed at. Especially after actually having discussions with MIB and Tiny about the awesome work guys like Kojak do....
Anyways I think MIB has cleared it up as a misunderstanding and thats probably all there is to it....?
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Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:45pm
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It's a well known fact that all users of spiral wraps are homosexual.
That is all.
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Posted By: fluffy1
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:50pm
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I appreciate all your post guys and maybe got a little carried away.
All of the above I totally agree with and I believe all the rod builders on this site deserve a pat on the back. As they really put the effort into their work!!!
Cheers Guys.
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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:52pm
thats not nice Bender as your good Mate Bushpig has brought one quite recently
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Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:53pm
Living proof, I say. The prosecution rests its case.
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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 4:58pm
Bender wrote:
It's a well known fact that all users of spiral wraps are homosexual.
That is all. |
another quality post, trying to make 20k of pure crap?
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Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 5:02pm
Bushpig wrote:
Bender wrote:
It's a well known fact that all users of spiral wraps are homosexual.
That is all. |
another quality post, trying to make 20k of pure crap?
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Living proof.
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Posted By: Phats
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 5:06pm
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HAhaha.....always makes me laugh when people make a post of pure crap about people making a post of pure crap
Oooooppppsss 
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Posted By: fluffy1
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 5:09pm
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Except Benders comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not all of us are homos!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 5:27pm
Phats wrote:
HAhaha.....always makes me laugh when people make a post of pure crap about people making a post of pure crap
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Now thats a classic
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 6:30pm
tobez wrote:
Bushpig wrote:
Actually Tobez, to quote that pratt who made this statement "zis is askin forz troubil at zum stage und you shouldn be pizzin round wiz shyt yuz knowz little aboutz, bezidz wez only developed it to makz it eszy forz personz whoz cant use a normil ozer head rodz" is a real insult to a lot of very good fishermen on his site
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guess it depends on how you read it..i read it as MIB trying to do a norwegian accent..harmless..how it insults any fisherman is something im keen to learn about..anyhoot got fish to catch
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 6:44pm
Short parabolic spiral wrapped rods...yes Sir I likes that thinking and agree thats where its at.......and I will have another drink
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:04pm
sound like there needs to be a build off....apples with oranges!!
this thread reminds me that I need to talk to you Kojak....JM250 or 300?, spiral, very low bling factor etc etc to suit OJ400.... 
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Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:15pm
OF2FSH: A cold examination of this thread reveals you as the culprit, you wastrel. Leading off the ego-driven and ill-informed sheep on a wild goose chase. (Nice hook up just quietly)
Wetdream put in the ol slipper comment and you climbed in boots and all. (even better word play, right thar)
That will be a round of drinks at the next forum event me ol china.
Kezza: We will have to compare results. My secret agent is out there scouring the world for the 400 blank from hell and the overhead from heaven to boot. Bling???? what wrong with bit o' bling.
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:37pm
It was all an orgainsed publicity stunt to build interest before the Boat Show.... hell just look at the hits... thanks to all those how stuck to the script and nominations for another subject will be taken after Sunday
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:40pm
haha that old line eh.....
sounds like more of a tui add 
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:06pm
billfish wrote:
OF2FSH: A cold examination of this thread reveals you as the culprit, you wastrel. Leading off the ego-driven and ill-informed sheep on a wild goose chase. (Nice hook up just quietly)
Wetdream put in the ol slipper comment and you climbed in boots and all. (even better word play, right thar)
That will be a round of drinks at the next forum event me ol china.
Kezza: We will have to compare results. My secret agent is out there scouring the world for the 400 blank from hell and the overhead from heaven to boot. Bling???? what wrong with bit o' bling.
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Am i not allowed to defend something that im passionate about ????? i put alot of ground work into the jm spiral wrapped rods that you see featured on here so have a vested interest in protecting them form those who make comment with out any facts.. to say im ego driven without ever meeting me is a bit of an insult ..those that no me will testify to that im far from ego driven..wild goose chase i think not.. ive spoken to MIB a few minutes ago and we have cleared the air ...
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:08pm
"Bling???? what wrong with bit o' bling."....
stealth is key amigo!....nevermind the purple gimbal knock, the camo-tiger wrap, the in-built sub woofer etc...give me a funtional rod and as Mick Jagger says "paint it black, pass the a-class and fill the hot tub to the brim with skank biaaaaaaches"
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:08pm
Kezza wrote:
sound like there needs to be a build off....apples with oranges!!
this thread reminds me that I need to talk to you Kojak....JM250 or 300?, spiral, very low bling factor etc etc to suit OJ400.... 
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You can have a play with my spiral 300 when its done to see if its what you want.
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:12pm
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thank-you big fulla...I will certainly be keen on accepting that offer.....it's pedigree is certainly well documented and endorsed....just need to decide 250 or 300.....what are your thoughts on that bruva?...OJ400
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:21pm
ive only fished the jm 250 at ranfurly but enjoyed it alot more than the jm400.A spiral wrapped jm250 would be sweet in the gulf and by no means out of its depth in tiger country.Kojak uses a jm250 every where and doesnt fish anything heavier
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Posted By: Peter da Squid
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:39pm
so whos shouting the piss??
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 8:50pm
I heard billypears was...... but only word on the street mind you
Awesome setup Billy and another nice rod Tiny 
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Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:03pm
of2fsh wrote:
billfish wrote:
OF2FSH: A cold examination of this thread reveals you as the culprit, you wastrel. Leading off the ego-driven and ill-informed sheep on a wild goose chase. (Nice hook up just quietly)
Wetdream put in the ol slipper comment and you climbed in boots and all. (even better word play, right thar)
That will be a round of drinks at the next forum event me ol china.
Kezza: We will have to compare results. My secret agent is out there scouring the world for the 400 blank from hell and the overhead from heaven to boot. Bling???? what wrong with bit o' bling.
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Am i not allowed to defend something that im passionate about ????? i put alot of ground work into the jm spiral wrapped rods that you see featured on here so have a vested interest in protecting them form those who make comment with out any facts.. to say im ego driven without ever meeting me is a bit of an insult ..those that no me will testify to that im far from ego driven..wild goose chase i think not.. ive spoken to MIB a few minutes ago and we have cleared the air ...
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OF2FSH: I think you missing the point - again. Your passion is clear. I think we all share that don't we. And if you say you have a 'vested interest in protecting them [JM spiral wraps]' then good for you. I'm sure JM greatly value your loyalty. I would love to have one myself and hope to soon. But, you see, there was NOTHING to defend - and there still isn't. And, if you recheck again before going off, you will see that I was not referring to You as ego driven but rather the leader of the ego driven sheep comments that followed. Comprehend? Need a finger painting??? And any way, my whole tone was a little bit of congrats to you and a little bit of piss take. We do that on here from time to time you know....or you should as you offer up enough yourself. So take a chill pill Mate and make mine a Lion Red.
PS: I thought we had met a few times on Damo's tub over on the house boat?? Weren't you the stroppy little pissed bloke ??
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Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:07pm
Rito Billfish, I've had enough of you calling me ego driven. I'm coming round to bunch your teefs. I am bringing my stepladder so I can reach. Be afraid.
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Posted By: tennut
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:09pm
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:11pm
Havent met ya Billfish..never been to the house boat and lion reds for homos missed the point ...probably have ...fingers engaged before brain ..guilty again. over and out on this topic
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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:15pm
pity I was looking for hot pies at 20 paces and bonus point for a direct hit to the head giving you of2 fish a massive advantage as you would understand had you met Billfish
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Posted By: Phats
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:19pm
billfish wrote:
PS: I thought we had met a few times on Damo's tub over on the house boat?? Weren't you the stroppy little pissed bloke ??
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That was Ski ya big Lumox
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Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:22pm
On ya mate. Been reading you posts for years and feel like I know you anyhow.
Reds are for homos?? Fair enough, I must be a rampant fag cause I sure do enjoy the odd one, or ten. Buy you a Red one when we do meet.
Westie brew. Because I'm worth it.
Billy Pears, this is all you fault you homoid! Bender: So! ...A gay basher now eh?? Boulder: What are you saying....that I look like Fred Flinstone or something?. Me, a slip of a lad. Phats: Err yes, I stand corrected. Probably was Burnski indeed. Must be a slow night on TV. All the usual dead beats are on here, excluding Moi of course.
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:28pm
We will get that chance to have a beer or two this june or july on Damos boat ...been known to drink a red or 2 in my time ...no im not a homo
------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:30pm
Boulder wrote:
pity I was looking for hot pies at 20 paces and bonus point for a direct hit to the head giving you of2 fish a massive advantage as you would understand had you met Billfish |
Why would anybody want to waste a pie by throwing it    pies are great to eat boulder...stones are great to throw
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Posted By: Phats
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:48pm
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Rocks mate
If they didnt have ***** we would throw rocks at them
Remember
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:53pm
Kezza wrote:
...nevermind the purple gimbal knock, the camo-tiger wrap,
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I hope that is not a dig at me 
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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:57pm
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It was Dean I am sure it was hit him hard
More pies more pies my kingdom for a big box of pies 
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Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:58pm
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Probably is a dig at you personally. He likes the spade work does Kezza. Right down there in the mud he is. Found that blank yet?
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:04pm
Phats wrote:
Rocks mate
If they didnt have ***** we would throw rocks at them
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Yep an oldie but a goodie 
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Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:15pm
Where do i get that little popcorn icon I want it!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:22pm
Becomes available in another 1500 posts and a Pie icon in 2000
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:24pm
Men In Black wrote:
we would rather ask and approach someone outside our industry in New Zealand so as not to be accused of encroaching on other Kiwi rod builders hard work. It is a small industry here in NZ and we fully understand that to crap in ones own nest would be foolish.
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MIB this is the problem we have in LITTLE old NZ, we all think that way. Last year i walked past Reel Rods stand at the boat show and had a we look at the rods he had, he had 1 that was spiral wrapped and had a chat with him( he will remember this as he offed me a job ) so i went home and did some research asked Combi on here about them(and went to his home) and read a couple of books(which i am happy to lend to Tiny, I will bring it to the show if you want) and i went from there, i just gave it a go. When i posed a pic of my first rod done spiral wrapped OF2FSH sent me a pm as asked a couple of questions, now all that know me know i am a top bloke so i gave him a link which i guess he showed Kojak and away they went.
What it comes down to is there is no experts here, we are all learning all of the time, this is why i started my Rod Building thread and if you do a search and read the first line you will see my point.
Coming back to my first line, I do the odd post on bloodydecks.com they have a very good form on rod building and some of the top rod builders in the states post on there i have asked questions and had some very good answers, would this happen here,,,,, NO ,,,, why not ? I am happy to shear what i know but i am not to sure about others (kerion for Reel rod reads this site but as far as i know he does not post, i wish he would).
Dean
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Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:41pm
Moocha wrote:
Becomes available in another 1500 posts and a Pie icon in 2000  | Maybe by christmas aye Moocha Crack a PURE steinlager that is and that will have to do till then 1499 now
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:47pm
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have just looked at this thread and now am curious, what is an acid wrap, spiral wrap etc etc etc, or better still can someone show me a rod and the benifits of me buying one?
or even better still just send me one so i can abuse it and see for myself.
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 5:19am
Blue Asparagus wrote:
or even better still just send me one so i can abuse it and see for myself. |
Good idea.
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 5:52am
Dohboy wrote:
Kezza wrote:
...nevermind the purple gimbal knock, the camo-tiger wrap,
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I hope that is not a dig at me 
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hahahaha....no not at all Deano.....your pimped out gears are a work of art bro....just not for moi...way too simple in the head for all the flash stuff.
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Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 6:49am
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Like Blue Asparagus, im curious now about these rods.
Can some one fill us in,
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Posted By: deltadreams
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 6:51am
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This is a case of the VERY big Tall Poppy Syndrome !!!!!!
It would be fine if all members read other members posts properly and trying to engage the keyboard before the small brains of some members works - some of this is a load of mailto:cr@p - cr@p
There are some key points amongst the pointed posts that might be of some sence "HELLO" still trying to find it.
Mod's, didn't we have something like this some time ago.
Yep TALL POPPY is alive and well here.
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 7:12am
you are right deltadreams...we did have something like this...like when MIBs posts were being 'misunderstood' as SPAM all over the shop.....to some viewers those same posts would have been blatant and to others simple marketing of a fine product....it just depends on how close you are to the argument VS how objectively/subjectively we read this sort of "thing" aye what?...do you own a Synit? if so how passionately do you feel about that rod/company so we can get some perspective here.
I personally don't see any posts in this thread as an example of TALL POPPY syndrome, but you have taken it oppositely more or less to my own thoughts....it comes down to not what is being said but how sometimes!
PS....no doubt about it we have some very talented mofos turning out rods, for that we should be thankful...keep up the good work Tiny and don't let bureaucracy and BS stifle your creations bro
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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 7:23am
deltadreams wrote:
This is a case of the VERY big Tall Poppy Syndrome !!!!!!
It would be fine if all members read other members posts properly and trying to engage the keyboard before the small brains of some members works - some of this is a load of mailto:cr@p - cr@p
There are some key points amongst the pointed posts that might be of some sence "HELLO" still trying to find it.
Mod's, didn't we have something like this some time ago.
Yep TALL POPPY is alive and well here. |
Your a perfect example of what you are saying. I own a synit and love it. Fact is pal you have little idea about any of this
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 7:46am
What was the original post about again... That's right Bills new Rod, well done Bill hope you have a good time down the Banks with it, I bet in your wildest dreams you never thought this thread would have gone on a tangent like this or have got so many hits. It's great to see that the top rod builders are so very passinate about there products and designs and so we should us Kiwi's are inovative. With all the banter going back and forth it can only generate interest.... . Looking forward to meeting a fare number of you over the Boat Show Weekend and catching up with Kojak, Of2Fsh and Bushy. Bushy does the spiral on your rod rotate to the left or right, could be the same as having an ear ring in the wrong ear.... kiding ...kiding lets not go there
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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 7:49am
MIB, you just get to polishing that jig rod Tiny is loaning me. I want it looking nice and shiny when I pick it up.
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 8:05am
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No worries... I'll break out the Inox and Simoniz
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Posted By: wetdream
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 8:07am
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See.... as I said way back on the first page "A YES or NO would have done".....
It's only taken 4 more pages but I'm glad to see your all bum chums again 
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 8:19am
No worries Greg it was all in the greater plans.... and no not at this stage to answer your question... 
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Posted By: billpears
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 8:21am
"Billy Pears, this is all you fault you homoid! Bender: So! ...A gay basher now eh?? Boulder: What are you saying....that I look like Fred Flinstone or something?. Me, a slip of a lad. Phats: Err yes, I stand corrected. Probably was Burnski indeed. Must be a slow night on TV. All the usual dead beats are on here, excluding Moi of course."
Bouldz mate, i tinks i know an easy target for some of your pies, aye Billy lad?????
Sheez, all i was doing was thanking a mate for a rod he'd built me. I'd saved me pennies and finally could afford to get me a set-up that i think is great for me. I didn't think for one minute that it would turn into a ***** session. How bout we ALL chill out and just appreciate ALL the people that make , not only rods but lures, jigs etc, etc cause to me we all have one thing in common, we love fishing and all that goes with it! And to my mind we have the most beautiful country in the world to do this-end of story!
Bill
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Posted By: Amateur
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 8:50am
Fishing is a sport/pass time that evokes a passion in all of us, it digs deep into our hunter gatherer past. The depth of emotional response a simple misunderstood sentence can generate is evidence of this. now a big group hug please, awwwwww.
I think that is a beautiful rod Bill, I'm gonna get one, one day.
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Posted By: craysee
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 12:03pm
How did i miss all this?
must of been somthing good on tv, or looking with me eyes shut again.
oh well nice setup billy, i would like one of them little trinnys too.
my 20 is bootiful just a bit big
good luck at the banks, i will look foward to a trumpeter fillet when you get back 
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Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 12:24pm
Dohboy wrote:
now all that know me know i am a top bloke |
Geeze the number of blatant untruths in this thread is horrendous!!  
Dean make sure you give that raving homo Deacs a bunch of crap from the sideline when they play you guys in the Cup, that is if he has toughened up and shaken off his "injury" 
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Posted By: Monty
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 6:31pm
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Had a look ?? some of you fellas need to take some salt-ice to harden up & chill out, going back out now, aint coming back.
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