Best rod for rocks?
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Topic: Best rod for rocks?
Posted By: mouthu
Subject: Best rod for rocks?
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2008 at 8:58pm
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What's your recommendation for rock fishing? Price is an issue.
I'm thinking of a new rod for my birthday in June, I already have a 15' surf rod, a 2 pce 12' surf rod and a 6' 10-15kg rod that I use now. Any ideas must be considered that I use egg beaters. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
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Posted By: LEVCAT
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2008 at 9:04pm
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shimano beastmaster 10ft 10-15kg... reasonably bullet proof, haven't heard alot of bad stuff about them... good value for money and 10ft is an ideal length
otherwise maby one of the kilwell models. might be a bit more expensive though
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Posted By: cosmo
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2008 at 9:05pm
normal Q what you targeting with new rod and what reel combining with and whats yr budget ------------- i just want to go fishing..........amd ignore all my adult problems |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2008 at 9:30pm
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TARGETING ====> Snapper, Kings, and most other larger fish and able to handle sharks.
REEL =========> Kilwell RXB80 Bait runner, Maybe in the future when I win lotto a Stella.
BUDGET ======> Up to $250.
Thanks Cosmo, that should narrow it down.
Thanks Levcat, Been looking at a Beastmaster 12'. Haven't made up my mind yet. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2008 at 9:42pm
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Totally agree with Lev those beastmaster rock rods are great bang for buck and will do all you need on a good budget. ...and you can get a kit now to convert the good old 6500b baitcaster into a Stella clone for a fraction of the price  |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2008 at 9:48pm
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I'm thinking this is going to be a very short thread. Beastmaster it is then. Any others or is that it? ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: Rock Fish
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2008 at 11:08pm
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Never used a beastmaster but seems to be the go for alot of members here as I have seen other people swearing by them as well. My only suggestion would be to make sure you have a good shop round Matt to ensure you get the best deal. For $250 you should get a good combo for the price rod and reel.
------------- Nothing makes a fish bigger than almost being caught. |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2008 at 7:22am
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10-12ft is the most practicable off the rocks will give lift and power when needed beastmaster are a good price, killwell also do some good rods as well. ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: rocko
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2008 at 7:31am
| For the budget price, tho a heavy rod. The power stick never let me down for years |
Posted By: studio1
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2008 at 8:00am
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Beastmaster is relatively cheap compared to your budget? What about one of the Kilwell 'Rocky' rods? Don't know anything about them. JK may be able to shed some light - I think he has some Kilwell rods.
I have a 10ft beastmaster and its been pretty bullet proof. |
Posted By: cosmo
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2008 at 8:37am
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yep would say the beastmaster and you should have some change out of yr budget other than that you could always check out the mighty t/m for a 2nd hand one ------------- i just want to go fishing..........amd ignore all my adult problems |
Posted By: Crunch
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2008 at 7:28pm
| Hey moocha where can you get the stella upgrade from? |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 9:20am
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I was wondering about that too Moocha, I was in the local tackle shop (Norcross) and they looked at me with a straight jacket look. 'Spose I'll have to ask w.s.laurie, when I can actually afford one at least. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 9:22am
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Been on trademe Rocko, Wouldn't buy a rod from there or anything else I wanted a warranty on, Rebel's having a pretty good special this weekend with 27% off today, Think I'll be there later. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 9:47am
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Mathew i picked up a marlin 11ft single piece rod for overhead today of T/M $20 so they are there should do fine off the bricks med action ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 10:21am
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I'm seriously contemplating going to rebel later to get a 10 to 12ft beastmaster. 27% off. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: LEVCAT
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 2:32pm
| do it |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 3:44pm
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It's going to have to wait till my birthday now, I've just found out what the overdraft limit is on my cards. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 5:21pm
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This is what the Shimano :.au website has to say about the 6500B upgrade. There could be a different upgrade which moocha was talking about. "Upgrade your Baitrunner reel for heavy duty style fishing with an upgraded drag and a stella type round or ergonomic handle (these upgrades are also available individually)." Makes me wonder how the graphite frame of the 6500B would cope under increase drag. I suppose the new drag could just be smoother and more reliable. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 8:40pm
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The beastmaster rods are ok but would really recommend the kilwell rockys if you are prepared to spend the extra $$. The rocky is only 9ft so not as long as they others but a high quality rod that is just awesome for brick fishing
------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: OBR
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2008 at 9:17pm
| bro they got penn power stick at rebel for like 80 bucks, thats ok but it has a solid tip, would be good for the larger game, snappers would work too i suppose, i use the Okuma Xfactor 15kg 2pce 8'. Its good for me, feel the bites and get a good flex for casting piper and pillies, i think softer works better but thats me... |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 4:39pm
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Thank you JK, I've beenwaiting for your thoughts. Now I'm really undecided, there's quite a few choices out there I see. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: shoby
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 6:15pm
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i got me shimano beastmaster 10ft. OBR and I were so very confused between penn power stick and shimano....I preferred it because it was lighter and tip was softer....Good luck bro
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 8:53pm
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moutho I have both rods so if you are on the shore and want to come around and load both up and see how they feel you are more than welcome mate. The beastmasters are great for casting etc but I f can flick the killwell pretty much as far and I find I hardly need to cast far when fishing off the rocks anyway. Casts both weighted and unweighted baits well. I also know which rod I'd prefer to hook up to a decent snap or king on too. Neither rod is designed to catch big kings but will handle a decent one with a bit of luck if required. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 9:35pm
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Understood JK. I have long rods for long casts, niether of which is any good for rock fishing and my boat rod really doesn't cut the mustard so to speak omly being 6ft. Which is why I posed the question. I guess I'm looking for a rod about 10 to 12ft and you're right about big kings, that's what I use the boat rod for. I just want something for rock fishing that I can cast and handle what ever I may catch.
So, which of the two do you prefer? ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 9:54pm
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the kilwell rocky by a mile eh. have a look around and you may be able to find one for a good price. Retail for $250 upwards but have seen near new ones on trademe for as low as $100 and on random specials at rebels for $125-150 etc
------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 10:03am
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Or your other option is a Kilwell Jellytip 7ft6 it can cast a big bait a good distance - roughly the same price as the rocky, either the 10-15 or 15-24kg setups around. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Nathan
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 10:15am
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Ive got a Kilwell Rocky II. Its about 9ft and its great. I use it off the rocks with a 6500B, or an overhead Daiwa boat reel for snapper, and I also put a Shimano TLD25 on it for kings off the rocks. It has been treated rough, never broken, and has a lifetime guarentee from Kilwell.
I like it so much that I also use it for live baiting from the boat. The height keeps the line out of the way as the livie swims round. But its not so big that its stupid on a boat. Prefer the action to my shorter boat livie rod.
Only downside is that its a one piece. Hard to take tramping, and put in the car, but I can deal with that.
Got mine from Rebel - either wait for a sale, or get a price from Smart Marine, and then Rebel have a price promise that they will beat any other price by 10-15%.
You wont be dissappointed.
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 10:30am
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Top stuff Nathan, they are great rods eh! ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 11:04am
Mathew both Peter and Ail's run the rockyII both with 6500's ,have used them but find them a little short for me of the rocks , but man what a lovely action they have.go and cut some tree's down get that OT up------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Unty
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 11:17am
| are they made for overheads and eggbeaters? |
Posted By: OBR
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 11:25am
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damm i gota see this Kiwell Rocky now. - sounds like magic, can we use braid??
do you think Rebel will have it?because REBEL buy in bulk they usually have the best rates, the Big Fish in pakuranga is a tad bit more expensive.
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Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 3:01pm
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Rebel will have 1 or 2, yes they buy in bulk but in some instances they are more expensive (this is generally true on the more expensive gear) as fishing shops would sell more of them as they are more specialised, more fishos would go to a fish shop rather than a whole sporting shop like rebel, I know for sure that most CD rods are cheaper in fishing shops by quite a margin. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 5:23pm
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Thanks guys, That's within my birthday budget and as you're all the authority on land based, I'll take your word on the matter. A kilwell rocky it shall be. And for my wedding anniversary, I'll buy the wife a 6500..
And Oneleg, I don't cut down trees. I plant big trees.
And do you reacon the club fish on the 11th will be sutible for wifey to come, not to athletic. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2008 at 6:22pm
So long as she dosn't mind a light walk .Weather dependent . boats allowed too------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 4:35pm
Not sure if its available here yet but if you look near the bottom you will see a few wee toys one is the upgrade for the trusty 6500b.
http://www.shimanofish.com.au/catalog/fish/products/accessories/accessory_group_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302054240&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181791&bmUID=1209529984184 - http://www.shimanofish.com.au/catalog/fish/products/accessories/accessory_group_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302054240&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181791&bmUID=1209529984184
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Crunch wrote:Posted By: Nathan
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 8:58am
A photo of the Rocky II in action on a king.
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Posted By: BALLAST
Date Posted: 02 May 2008 at 10:57pm
| dont bother upgrading the 6500 unless it comes with a shaft upgrade as youll only end up bending it, theres just too much pull on it when the spools at the top of the shaft .buy a tld 25 if the budget allows,theyre bullet-proof and easy to cast.when rockfishing you dont need big casts unless you need to clear a ledge then its probably better to either float baits out or find another spot.longer rods also put more pull on the angler than the fish and can be a pain if on narrow ledges,i have a 6foot6 15kg jellytip with tld25 andcan cast 40meters easy but usually dont need to, 20 meters is usually enough up here on the coromandel, have landed snaps to 12kg and kings to 22kg on 15kg line.FISH YOUR FEET FIRST |
Posted By: Rock Fish
Date Posted: 03 May 2008 at 10:54pm
Been looking at pimping one of my reels. Dave at top catch was telling me all about and seriously thinking about upgrading my Pen 9500 and maybe the Axion once I have it in my hot little hands this week.l ------------- Nothing makes a fish bigger than almost being caught. |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 9:40am
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Gee Norm, way too much money... ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 10:10am
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cant see why you would need to pimp the 9500 ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 10:17am
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Hey, I'm new to the site but have a had a Beastmaster for the last three years and have had no complaints until this weekend. I hooked up on a reasonable ky and the tip broke off where the hollow section leads into the solid section.
I have previously caught much bigger fish on the same rod. The drag was not set too tight, the only reason I can think it failed is that the rod has weakened over time. The rod was kept in safe storage and no damage was evident.
Anybody else had the same problem? Also I can't remember if Shimano gave 5 year warranties in 2005 when I bought the rod, will ask at my local tackle shop but if anybody knows I would appreciate it?
I am now looking for a new rod and would like to stick with a two piece, however, many of the high end rock rods are less than 10ft and are one piece. I find the two piece easier to carry when climbing down rocks etc. I am keen to get a rod with the quality of Kilwell/Offshore, does anybody have any suggestions,
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 11:31am
Because you can I guess  I do agree the with you JK old Penn 9500ss have tamed Beakies in their stock standard form with out any pimping required  |
Posted By: kingiman
Date Posted: 07 May 2008 at 10:38pm
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Go the 9500 I have three and have landed kings up to 20kg no probs, I do like the ugly sticks to 10kg-15kg?
------------- The best time Fishing is when its raining when its not raining or if you are married, When ever you are allowed to! |
Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 11:18am
Beastmaster 10ft rock rod $100 softer tip
Penn Powerstick 10ft $100 more solid tip
rodworks LBG rods 10-15kg 8ft (2pc) $300
rodworks LBG 15-24kg 8ft (2pc) $320
Theres not many 2 piece rods around the $200 mark, maybe go custom made?
Most of the rock rods I have are between 7 and 8ft 1 piece and have no trouble going down cliffs with them - no broken guides on them ever. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Rock Fish
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 4:02pm
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It's a beefy reel agreed JK, but like Moocha said, just because it can be done. Oh it gets better also gonna do the same to the Okuma Aexon AX90 Longcast I've just got as well. Figure it can be done, why not, won't do any harm doing it. Plus the drags are from the guys who brought out those weird graphite rods which you bend and tie a knot in, the GT's, they also make and will install the drags.
------------- Nothing makes a fish bigger than almost being caught. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 10:36pm
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dont waste your $$ on that stuff rockfish you want quality like this  ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Rock Fish
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 11:21pm
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Haha, you know the worse part, he probably gets more fish than all of us with his set up!
------------- Nothing makes a fish bigger than almost being caught. |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 9:32am
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I have seen a two piece Killwell Limetip Texalium 8ft 6' 10-20kg in Stirling sports $300.00. I am keen to buy, anybody have any experience of these rods? Have got a Penn 9500, which should match up, any comments?
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Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 10:30am
And look at that he can keep his spare tackle in the front of the reel, well though out ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 10:41am
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Mate if you can pick up an older second hand Penn Powerstick off trademe or wherever then do it, the older models have the mean as powerful tip, I prefer that way way more than the softer tips of the Beastmaster. Maybe just a personal preference but I know I'd rather have power over sensitivity when that big red is trying to run you into the kelp.
The newer Powersticks have a softer tip for some reason so I can only assume they have changed how they make them or sourced different blanks.
Love my Powerstick PS1402
 Probly not the best for kings though as it's long and you wouldnt be able to get the butt into a gimble ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 11:31am
They are very similar to the Kilwell Rocky just in a two piece, me personally I just dont like 2 piece rods of that sort of length and line weight, maybe its just because there are so many poorly designed 2/3 piece shorter rods.
Limetips generally have the hard chrome guides ( bottom picture) which are easy to break on the rocks, if they have decent guides (top picture) not a bad buy. I'd check out the Rodworks ones at fishcity if your wanting to spend $300 on a 2 piece.
 Not sure if Tiny (Synit Rods) have made there LBG rods and if they are 1 or 2 piece but theres another option.
or buy a 1 piece and get a professional to make it a quality 2 piece rod.
Matt from Just fishing transformed my Shimano backbone 8ft LBG rod from hard chrome guides to this thing of beauty!
------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 11:36am
Not bad for a $100 rod then add on workmanship and you have a rod worth well more than it cost ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 12:57pm
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Thanks for the advice, the rod has got the decent guides.
I already have an offshore boat rod and want a change. Also the two piece will go in the boot of my car out of view.
Having asked a few tackle shops for advice on the 2 piece/1 piece situation they also have said that they would stay away from poor quality 2 piece rods but so long as you go with a good maker such as Kilwell/Offshore the 2 piece should not make any difference.
I think I will buy it.
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 1:25pm
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good one smelly fingers.
I cant stand those penn powersticks, had one once, worst rod I have ever owned! And re the synit LBG rods, I beleive they are a long way off and way down their priority list ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 5:20pm
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levin large 1,
The method for attaching the guides looks a bit Heath Robinson (uk terminology for cobbled together)?
Looks like gaffer tape?
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Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 5:31pm
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So JK, I'm going to take your advice first but, Apart from the 'Rocky II', What else would you reccommend? Or is there anything else to think about for under $250. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 9:53pm
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Any of the killwell or offshore stuff is pretty good mouthu. Like levinlarge i also prefer the 1 piece rods, even up to 10foot. Dont find them much of a hassle to transport either. Smellyfingers - hope you are not talking about the rod of levinlarges in the picture? It's a quality job there thats for sure! ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 8:11am
 I hope Matty doesnt read this, If your ever on the North Shore go check out "Just Fishing" on Wairau Road and you will see that these guys really know there stuff when rod building or anything else for that matter, which many will attest too. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: cosmo
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 12:47pm
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got a beastmaster and yes quite sensitive in the tip but also have a rodworks graphbutt fxs85 2 peice with a penn 9500 ssm for the kingis and poppers main thing now is getting the kingi ------------- i just want to go fishing..........amd ignore all my adult problems |
Posted By: mattzo
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 1:40pm
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As a relative newbie myself to OH reels for rock fishing, and notwithstanding the softbait craze, a quality overhead jig rod with star drag reel (and a loud clicker) is pretty much the best fun I can think of. I'm using 3 setups: - Livebaiting: 7' Shimano backbone elite 10-15kg OH with Daiwa SL30SH (10kg nylon and grunty enough fluoro leaders - and a bit of berley in the vicinity - in case a reasonably big dude is present). - Softbaiting: 7' Pfleuger/Shakespeare with 4kg braid and 20lb fluoro and smelly plastics on light jigheads for flicking into the washes and around the weeds. - Flashers: Any 13-14' 8-12kg cheapo surfcaster with 8kg nylon for chucking breakout sinkers and strip baited flashers into the predominant current past the foul. - Sabiki's: On a small handline for livebait catching and to keep kids occupied. Nothing beats heading out with no bait and going home with tucker in the bucket. |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 6:57pm
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Re levinlarges pictures,
Only joking guys, my english sense of humour is obviously not understood!
By the way I bought the 2 piece Kilwell rod, gave it a run out tonight at St Heliers and came back with 3 snaps all around 45cm. Put quite a few small ones back.
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 7:39pm
have to agree right there mate, have 3 of them 2x 15-24s which i run a 6500 with 24 and the other the black jelly tip with a tld 50 the lighter model i dont use, the penn power stick i have one and its great with good lifting power,
one thing that suprises me is no one has mentioned the daiwa range, use 2x 80j they are what you call bullet proof no question, however i dont recomend egg beaters on em but they do still work ok, one thing you must remeber if distance is your thing then make sure with the egg beater you get a rod with large eyes as there is less restriction.
personally if i was buying again i would not hesitate to buy the kilwell jelly tips have thrashed mine with kings to 26k makos bronzies snaps to 25lb massive mud marlin and god knows what else not bad from the rocks and the best thing i get to use em on my boat as well where i need lift and power you wont beat em.
like the shimano gear too but find their rods are very thin in the walls and dont like to be dropped on the rocks, while in the industry have had a fair number really of all makes come back through damage, rock drops certainly kill your rods.
reading your orriganal thread you have all the rods you would want for off the rocks i would have put my money into a good reel like the penn ss series or the baitrunner in 6500. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: rocko
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 8:14pm
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I have a Daiwa power crest 13ft 3pc which i used to have a GS9 fitted i dont know much about the history of this rod,which ive owned for 6-7 years. still going strong fished both rocks and surfcasting all i have done is have 3 new guides fitted. very strong rod with good lifting power,this rod has been used and abused and still has plenty of life left out of all my other rods this would be my favourite |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 11:21am
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I have a Daiwa SL30Sh which I have been using when I occasional get to go out on a boat.
I took this out to the rocks the other day targeting snapper and hooked up to two kingies and lost both of them. One of the problems was that I didn't want to put too much pressure on the line, being only 10kg. Would like to put 15kg on but wondered if this would be o.k as the manuafacturers manual only stipulates line up to 25lb and line capacity of 235 yards. Also concerned about losing the ability to get a good cast with 15kg line and the line capacity.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 11:34am
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Try find another reel for the kings especially if livebaiting.
That way you can keep the SL30 with 10kg as a good mulitlpurpose reel.
Just my 2cents ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 1:02pm
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Yeah, I agree its not worth tinkering with but I just thought I might get a bit more use out of it that way but there's not much point in catching kingies on gear not designed for the job.
What overhead reels would you recommend other than the entry level reels talked about above?
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 1:12pm
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TLD25 or SLD30 - cant really go wrong with either of them ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Bungel_
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 6:48pm
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Go the sld30!!! ... im almost over using 10footer rods off the rocks now, only use them for poppers. hardly ever need anything more than 7foot really. But i recon 8Foot is the perfect length, always get power out of them and enough tip action to play the fish nicely. ------------- here fishy, fishy fishy..... |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 8:54am
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Just moved from a shimano beastmaster 10 ft to 8ft6' lime tip and it makes a big difference in both in terms of power and handling fish, I can also still flick out a bait as far as the beastmaster. I have put the limetip with my 9500 so I can flick out poppers, baits etc. I'm just needing to get a good overhead live bait setup to free up the lime tip which I have been using for live baiting recently, I will have to save the pennies up and use my sl30 until I have enough.
By the way I have heard that the sld 30 should be spooled with 24kg line as a staring point, would prefer to stick to 15kg any thoughts?
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 9:33am
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it says sld30 for a reason, if it said sld50 then use 24k you can still use 50lb but use the same drag settings as you would for 30 simple then you can train your thumb to do the rest.
there are a heap of reels on trade me now, tlds are a dime a dozen and a tld 15 will do the job very nicely as well.
good luck ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 3:37pm
If it were me i'd use the 9500 and limetip as the livebait rig and the SL30 as an alrounder, the 9500 would have more drag pressure than the SL30 would it not. Just a possibility. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 5:07pm
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Yes, I have been doing that but I would like the lime tip for spinning poppers etc, it keeps me active. Also if a kingy takes it I would prefer to have it on the 9500 rather than the sl30 which I have recently been taken to the cleaners on a couple of times. Loads of line out and pinged on the rocks.
I suppose I will just have to be patient and fish as you suggest and save up or get lucky on trademe for another setup.
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Posted By: Tomatron
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2008 at 8:11pm
| Gday i fish the takatu up to waipu area land based, i only target snapper as i am in search of 20lber. I use an alvey rockhopper with a kilwell 12ft 8-12kg rod, this thing just keeps tickin has taken many blows to rocks that other reels would crumple into peices, (ie 10m off a cliff onto rocks) has never had a service and has seen more under the water than above. The thing has incedible casting power and i only ever use one 8-9bar hook tied onto 15kg mainline. It cost an arm and a leg but it has paid for its self many times over. I know this reel will last forever, don't know about the rod but that just because of the treatment it receives when it gets pair pressured into coming with me on stratigic operations during the search of 20lbr. I find it absolutly priceless landing bigger snapper on because once you turn the fish, the brutal 1:1 ratio means that you can crank him in, and although it is hard work battling fish (another reason why I avoid kings) due to the 1:1 ratio, it has resulted in me landing more fish, more quickly (whih is most of the time important) and also more pannies skimming along the surface at pace than you will ever see. anything under 5lb just doesn't know what hits them. I can gaurente that anyone who hasn't tried an alvey, and only wants to catch snapper, and big ones, will be impressed by these excessively large reels that many like my self swear by. |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 9:31pm
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Kingi lbg rod advice please....
I have started looking for a rod for a live bait setup and seen a 8ft 15-24 kg cd rod on tradme me for $200, used but in good condition. Don't know much about these rods but they seem to get good reviews.
Would you consider this to be a good buy, and what would you expect to pay for such a rod brand new?
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Posted By: FarNorfOwnage
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 9:59pm
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Have used the composite developments 15-24kg 8' lbg rod for years smellyfingers they are one serious horse stick. Used to have three of them liked them so much defenitely not an entry-level rod (think mine were $450 new and they dont make them anymore only the blanks), all my rods are ReelRods customs now. Defenitely be a good deal if its in good nic (I sold my last one for $250 a month ago to a mate just starting out). ------------- out there doing it or STFU |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 10:05pm
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Cheers,
Thought it was a good deal, have bought it. Now I must get a reel to match up with it. Have had advice to get a tld25 or daiwa sld30, what's your choice/opinion?
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 10:08pm
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there is a cd rock rod on there now for a mear $50 dam fine buy as well as a tld 50 for $350 dammmmmm ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 10:12pm
| yeah but watch the prices go up near the end of the auction! |
Posted By: FarNorfOwnage
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 10:16pm
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yeah thats a sweet deal BA go for the tld25 smelly, that'd be one sick combo! ------------- out there doing it or STFU |
Posted By: levinlarge
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 7:37am
So you were the winner of the CD rock rod, Great rod but despise those guides, im sure they are hard chrome (correct me if i'm wrong) which seems silly on an high spec'd rod.
Sure did go up in price, $80-$200 pretty damn quick, likewise i'm sure with the rest of his gear - TLD30, 50, and other CD rod
I'd go with the SLD30, if it were me. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: FarNorfOwnage
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 8:16am
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All my CD's had gunmetal anodized guides no hard-chrome plating never seen the CD 8' 15-24kg LBG rod fitted with that sorta hardware, got a piccy of the rod smelly? Still a sweet deal either way straight up!
Choice of reel would come down to personal preference or how deep your wallet is as all the reels mentioned above will work (I use a tld50). ------------- out there doing it or STFU |
Posted By: smellyfingers
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2008 at 10:08am
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Just picked the CD rod up and yes it has the gunmetal guides, just gotta get a reel now!
Top man who I bought it from he threw in some traps and a brand new rocky rod holder, deal of the century!
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Posted By: FarNorfOwnage
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2008 at 8:29am
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Thats all gravey smelly your on a roll now mate, get that winder sorted and im sure youll be into them, theyve showen no sign of thinning out up here seems never ending. ------------- out there doing it or STFU |
Posted By: spoofy
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2008 at 10:33pm
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The set up i use off the rocks is the shimano 6500 baitrunner matched with a shimano 7 foot raider 10 -15kg rod i use 40lb mono and do most of my fishing around the east cape at lottins point. have caught many good size kingi's up there and the set up i have described hasnt let me down once i bought rod and reel for $199 money well spent. All the best Spoofy
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Posted By: Rock Fish
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2008 at 1:43am
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Thats a very good price for that set up and a nice set at that as well. Welcome to the thread by the way.
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