Grey Mullet on a fly?
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Topic: Grey Mullet on a fly?
Posted By: bazza
Subject: Grey Mullet on a fly?
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 8:58am
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Anyone know if it is possible to entice mullet to take a fly & if so what type?
Yesterday I observed about 30 or more large sized mullet schooling around
& around a fairly confined area. Would love to take one or two on a fly.
Reminds me of the time in a club "one fly" competition on the Ohinemuri.
Could not believe our luck, when arriving at the allocated beat we looked
down from the bridge to see virtually wall to wall "trout" with many giving
enticing silver flashes.
Whilst I acted as observer on the bridge my mate dragged his chosen fly
through the packed fish, only to have them part ar the very last
moment to allow the fly to pass through. Later on, after the competion
many others also tried with an endless variety of flies to no avail. Apart
from the fact that they could be seen from the bridge, an angler could be
forgiven for assuming the pool was empty. Also they were packed in so
tight, one would have thought it would have been near impossible not to
inadvertantly foul hook them, but even that did not happen.
After well over an hour of trying fruitlessly, a local crossing the bridge
stopped to chat. When the school of trout were mention, he peered down
intently but said he could not see any, so I lent him my polaroids. He said
he still could not see them & I remember thinking to myself " The poor guy
must be near blind" until he added " I can only see those mullet!!!!!!"
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Posted By: andrew-simpson
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 11:25am
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I have seen this before,
i grew up in Whakatane, about 300 metres away from the river so i spent many afternoons at the river, spinning or fly fishing for sea runs and kahawai. I would often get mullet too, the would take just about anything a trout or kahawai would, and often seem less fussy.. when I was home for xmas I went down to the river and saw a very similar thing to what you describe, it seemed like every mullet in the river was there, all bunched up, and they were not interested in anything! I wondered if they were spawning? any ideas? |
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 12:13pm
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Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 9:12pm
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Have caught quite a few mullet while fishing for KY. They basically take any fly a KY would take. Realistically anything from a size 2-8 should work fine. They get more active just on dusk and often feed from the surface. That is when they are the easiest to catch. Maybe early morning also, but I never fish then. edit: There might be a difference between the feeding habits of the ylloweyed and Grey mullets. I mainly/only catch yelloweye. edit 2: According to NIWA both species of mullet must return to the sea to spawn. This might be helpful "Grey mullet feed on detritus and plant material that they suck from the substrate. They are also known to feed by grazing the surfaces of aquatic plants." |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 9:28pm
Yellow eyed mullet are suckers for pipi's & tuatuas.
I caught "millions" of them when I was growing up around the Canterbury rivermouth lagoons.
Grey mullet are a different kettle of fish--Craig Worthington has caught a handful using small nymph type flies.
I've foul hooked a few & they are dynamite for the first few minutes.
Sure would like to find a way to catch them consistently.
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Militaris wrote:Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 9:32pm
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Fish a fly which imitates plant material on the substrate. |
Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 3:09pm
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Used to catch a lot of Mullet In Durban Harbour in South Africa using white bread with a piece of crust attached to keep it afloat.
Didn't take long to Graduate to tying White flies of the Quill variety and then the fun was really on. Ruined a lot of flies before going for a Synthetic White Glow Bug style fly which stood up to the punishment a lot better.
Of course this was in Salt Water, But I cant see why it would not work in fresh water.
The real strange thing was that a small Black Fly ala a Zulu or Black Gnat also seemed to turn the Mullet on at times. Isn't fly fishing just the greatest? Jack ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 3:15pm
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Update on progress with catching a mullet or rather the lack of it.
Returned the next day at roughly the same stage of tide, namely about
an hour or so before low & sure enough there they were congregating
again.
Tried a few flies but as with past attempts, absolutely no interest shown.
The fish are packed quite tight into an area approx 3 X3 mtrs. & can
sometimes be seen reasonably clearly or otherwise by silver flashes
as they presumably roll on their side. I would estimate the average weight
at about 1 1/2 kilos, maybe more. My young grandson was getting frustrated
at our lack of success.
Almost ashamed to admit to this but yesterday, resorted to making up a
spear with six splayed stainless steel prongs, thinking if they are packed
as tightly as before there is no way they can avoid being impaled. They
arrived again on cue, but repeatedly hurling the spear at the pack only
resulted in bent prongs from hitting rocks etc.
The G/kids all wanted a turn & I made them loop the attached cord to their
wrist to avoid losing the spear, emphasising how annoyed I would be if they
lost it. Just before giving up I decided to have a final throw only to discover
I had forgotten to loop the cord around my wrist.
So will be returning at low tide today with a gizzmo I have made to retrieve it.
Have decided whilst waiting for low tide will try drifting a glo bug suspended
under an indicator. If they are going through some sort of spawning ritual I
feel there is a possibility they may like most other fish, respond to an egg roe
pattern.
After so many failed atempts catching one has become something of an
obsession now, therefore if the glo bug does not work, does anyone know
where I could buy some hand grenades??
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 9:56am
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Globug did not work either, but at least managed to retrieve the spear
so my consience is clear regards that as was worried someone might
injure themselves on it.
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Posted By: Pole Dancer
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 10:32am
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Have you tried burleying with bread and a fishing a bread fly??? I have yet to do this, but the Ozzies seem to account for a few that way.
Must try it on the schools up near Matakana. ------------- http://www.clarkreid.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.clarkreid.co.nz FFF Certified Casting Instructor / Umpqua Designer Tier 
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 11:11am
No Clark
Have not tried a bread fly imitation but bread thrown on the surface does
not solicit any response other than from sprats etc. as it drifts out of the
area where the mullet are.
Am prepared to try some real bread on a fly hook if that would stand a
chance of working. Tried using soggy chook pellets as berley however
that did not make any difference
I have no doubt that at certain times mullet will strike a fly or bait but
am inclined to think these are currently performing some type of breeding
ritual & therefore not interested in anything else.
Nevertheless their ability to evade capture is amazing even with a multi
prong spear.
Incidentally the area they are holding in is estuarine i.e. tidal but with
considerable freshwater input. They seem to appear an hour or two
before low tide, when I would imagine the freshwater content is at it's
peak. They may well be present at other times but maybe not visible.
Militaris has suggested using substrate material. What excactly is that??
Cheers
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Posted By: Barbary B
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 11:14am
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Ive seen a mullet take one of Uncle's minimaks. Maybe tie a set on with a small ball sinker, cast and retrieve through them. ------------- "Look ahead, look astern, look to weather, look to lea Look down along the coast of High Barbary..." |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 11:18am
What are minimacs Barbary? Willing to try anything at this stage, even it
it comes from MacDonalds !!
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Posted By: Pole Dancer
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 11:51am
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Give Uncle a private message. Mr MacBrayne's flashers,, minimacs, macskippies are all legendary!!!!! ------------- http://www.clarkreid.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.clarkreid.co.nz FFF Certified Casting Instructor / Umpqua Designer Tier
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Posted By: roddholder
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 2:36pm
mcflashers catch any fish in the sea.  why didnt you try them uncle, youre always telling me how good they are?? 
------------- she was only a fishermans daughter, but she reeled at the sight of my rod!. |
Posted By: Pole Dancer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2008 at 10:33pm
My guess, correct me if I'm wrong, is that the fish hitting the same flies as the Kahawai or sea runs were yellow eyed mullet??? The grey mullet are the problemimatical fish....
Might go and have a lash at the Tauranga harbour brigade this week sometime... ------------- http://www.clarkreid.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.clarkreid.co.nz FFF Certified Casting Instructor / Umpqua Designer Tier
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Posted By: andrew-simpson
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2008 at 11:45am
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Yeah, you are right there, when I read the post I lumped all mullet into one, forgetting grey mullet..
Yeah, Sounds like they are surely a challenge! |
Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2008 at 10:05pm
| Would say a shrimp, crab, or worm imitation work? Ive speared quite a few now, and have several places that have resident schools, but they are very hard to watch or observe. Or I could just spear a few and take them into the lab one day with another project I got going and observe their gut contents under the microscope? |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 9:42am
Yeah, probably worth a try Adam even could try the genuine article to prove
if either works or not.
However I am almost convinced they are not feeding at all & grouping together
for some other reason or other.
Cheers
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 10:08am
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Hey Bazza; seems as though you may well have come to the end of your tether with these Mullet.
Now I'm sure you have tried the good old induced take among a host of other methods. SO there is always the good old fall back plan to the sure fire Hawaiin Cast Net.
Had many a good evening in South Africa Using a cast net to get Live Mullet for fishing for Kingies and Garrick next day in the surf near Durban Natal.
Guess that just proves I am right out of ideas of how to solve your quandry. Have Fun. Jack ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 11:18am
Thanks for your input & suggestions nevertheless Jack.
Yes I thought of a throw net but there are a few associated problems
with using one.
Firstly, the area has an uneven bottom with quite a few large crusty covered
rocks that would most likely catch on a net. Also when the mullet seem to
appear before low tide, there is substantial tide flow through the rocks as
the bulk of the flow channels out behind where they gather.
Secondly, I had one that I purchased whilst overseas but have since sold it.
Thirdly, even if I had a casting net, I am fairly sure they are not legal to use
in NZ due to the interpretation of a clause in the regulations. As far as I am
aware they are not stocked or sold in NZ & this may be the reason why.
Finally even if they were legal to use, to use effectively they certainly require
a technique or degree of skill, that I never managed to master completely. Also
if they managed to evade a multi pronged spear thrown at force into a packed
group of fish, then I imagine they would scatter the moment a circular white net
(in the unlikely event of acheiving a perfect throw) appeared overhead, splashing
on the surface then sinking.
At this stage am beginning to think there are only three viable options, namely :-
dynamite, gelegnite or hand grenades all of which are of dubious legality.
If they are still there, have not checked for a week or so, will try Rusky's
suggestion of a worm or crab.
Cheers
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 12:02pm
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I've been watching this thread ( in silence) with great interest but now that gelignite is being touted as a possible method, I just have to break cover & put in my two bobs worth.
Did I say break cover or break wind,?
 Bazza, last year I nailed a few using my soft plastics gear.
The idea was to have a longish ( 2 mtr) flurocarbon leader ( the stuff fish can't see) & a medium weight jig head with a slender soft plastic.
The idea was to cast over the other side of the mob, stealthly wind in 'till almost at the fish then wind like buggary, lifting the rod high at the same time.
I managed to hook quite a few using this highly technical method so there you go, things to think about
 I'm sure a competant fly caster could embrace the basic idea & convert it to work on the long wand
 As Jax would say, have fun
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 12:23pm
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Ah Uncle! I see you have an advanced version of the Induced Take. Would I be right in assuming it is Uncles' Seduced Take ? I am sure that using Seduction you will indeed Have Fun. Jax ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 12:56pm
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Thanks for your much appreciated suggestions Uncle.
I may try to work out a method by which I can try that.
Unfortunately most proposed methods seem to be thwarted
in one direction or another.
In this case the only access point to cast from is out to the side
& a bit forward of the grouping. Could try a rapid sideways
retrieve , hoping not to hook up on the dreaded rocks.
Or I could try just after high tide when the water begins to flow
out as I could swing a lure across & downstream from the otherside.
This is only 50 or so mtrs. from the point where they can be observed
grouping at near low tide. Altho there is no evidence of them being
present in this area at near high tide, they nevertheless could well be,
only one way to find out I guess.
Do you think a lure such as you suggest could be cast on a fly rod/line
I would have thought it a bit too heavy, if so guess could try a spin rod.
Cheers
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 1:08pm
The lure I described would be way too heavy for a fly rod to handle so a "variant" would be needed.
Perhaps Jax could design something seductive
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 8:25pm
If Jax could produce something seductive for me Uncle, then I
probably would not bother going fishing!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 8:54pm
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You'll grow out of it bazza
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2008 at 9:12pm
Bill, you youngsters certainly get some peculiar notions
regards old farts like me!!!
At my age, if I have not grown out of it by now it is
unlikely I ever will.
Besides dreams are free!
Which reminds me, is well past my bedtime & I have not
had my hot cocoa yet ...............
Yawn ......... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2008 at 6:58pm
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O.K. Uncle and Bazza. I have accepted the Challenge to Come up with something Seductive to entice the Mullet.
After a good deal of wracking my brain No easy matter if you are not accustomed to working in a Micro environment. I went back into the Dark recesses of my mind [ A very SCARY place ] and this fly is the result.
I have called it the Naked Lady for obvious reasons and I am sure that She will do the trick and snare a Mullet or two. So get out there and Have Fun. Jack
 ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2008 at 7:18pm
Tooooo good Jax
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Posted By: Barbary B
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 9:18am
 ------------- "Look ahead, look astern, look to weather, look to lea Look down along the coast of High Barbary..." |
Posted By: Pole Dancer
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 9:21am
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Glad to see Barbary has managed to come up with a method even less ethical than Uncle's...
I had a skim read of a great article in Fly Angler that Justin Duggan has done on taking free swimming mullet on fly. I'm going to study it a bit more.
A lot of mullet up here on the flats at present so might have a window on wednesday to go and have a lash at them.... ------------- http://www.clarkreid.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.clarkreid.co.nz FFF Certified Casting Instructor / Umpqua Designer Tier
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 10:43am
If those huas were prepared to play the game & take a fly, I'd be more than happy to be "ethical".
Seeing as they don't or won't, I'll continue to play them at their own game
( Barbary's weapon looks the part, can I order a few please?)
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Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 11:33am
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Been following this thread with interest. Looks like these fish are more of a challenge than bonefish or permit! Just a thought in reference to Militaris's post about "plant material", would bits of sushi seaweed work or the stuff that is used to feed pet fish? Perhaps a few flakes hooked on a size 16 hook on a floating line?
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 12:42pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, but I doubt if even the grenade (gives new meaning to using a "livie") version would work, as I am sure they would work out a way to defuse it.
Went yesterday armed with a flyrod, also my complete arsenal of flies, both fresh & saltwater.
The water is usually fairly discoloured there, but was much clearer yesterday, no doubt due to the lack of rain recently. There is a bridge from where they can be seen & yesterday there were more than I have ever seen before.
Strangely enough they were grouped or graded into schools of like size, ranging from small at 300mm or so, thru to about 600mm. I would estimate the various groups ranged in number from a doz. through to 50/60 or more. They mostly seemed to be moving about in an unhurried fashion, often pausing to go around in tight circles for awhile & every so often some of them would "roll" presenting a flash of silver. There was no sign whatsoever of any feeding activity & yet once again it also proved to be so with the myriad of variations tried in vain. Did however, manage to hook some sort of cod & several herrings. Tried casting upstream, downstream & across stream, all of which proved fruitless or more to point fishless.
I am almost certain I saw the occasional one bring it's fins forward to thumb it's snout at me whilst others seen to be giving the "fins up" signal. Bread scattered on the surface or sunken, did not solicit any reaction & merely passed over or through the the schools, untouched.
It was possible to allow a fly or lure to submerge below the level they were holding, then when a large tightly packed grouo swam overhead it could be rapidly stroke hauled through them. I know if freshwater fishing this would be illegal, but I think is OK for saltwater species even if generally considered unsporting, but was desperate at this point. It would be thought to be impossible to draw a hook through such a tight pack & not snag one. Yet this is what happened after endless attempts & often feeling the weight of leader contact.
Have lost count of the total hours overall, spent trying to hook or impale on a spear, one of these elusive creatures, am now at a point of being in total awe at their abilty to evade.
In fact must ask myself, would the unlikely achievement of capturing one in fact underweigh the admiration held at their ability to miraculously avoid capture.
Cheers
PS Sooshee, not only would I try nori seaweed, would go to the extent of sushi or tempura but I do know sashimi does not work.
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Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 3:20pm
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bazza, they sound like a tough cookie to crack. Im sure something will work eventually??
A little bit of research here.
They spawn durring late summer (must be in sea to spawn) and dont reach maturity until 33cm(males) and 35cm(females) which are 3 years of age. They have a maximum age of 12-14 years and can grow up to 5kg (60cm). I have seen one as big as 60cm while diving and it was a sight I will never forget.
Food sources are algal species, macrophyte detritus, inorganic particles, invertebrates, and occasionaly a snail species called Pota-mopyrgus antipodarum.
They are a beautiful fish smoked, and a worthy challange on spear as they are fast moving fish and hate anything trying to track them.
A few mullet taken on a average days diving. This day in particular the fish seemed not be feeding and rather just moving continuously. I have however creeped up on them while feeding in the soft sediment filtering particles.
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 7:37pm
Appreciate the inovative thinking Sooshee, but after a couple more hours of futile effort today, can now add sushi seaweed to the long list of things that have not worked, plus
an additional few tried today as well. Maybe they wanted some Kikkoman soy sauce or
rice wine vinegar soaked into it!
What is particularly frustrating is that all the time the mullet are cruising about with apparent impunity, other non targeted fish (albeit mostly smallish baitfish) are actively responding, often against all odds they are being hooked.
Wish I could be sensible enough to simply give up, but unfortunately such logic is a trait not
particularly inherent in most fisherpersons.
At least I can take some comfort in the truism that the fish we remember the most, are those that we failed to catch rather than those we did!
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 8:39pm
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Bazza; My Naked Lady is a Chromed Silver Hook. Next time you are trying for a mullet. Tie on a small #12 or #14 Silver hook and drift it amongst the Mullet. I think if memory serves me well that Mullet will get annoyed and snap at a silver hook on occasions.
Gold Fish [carp] will also go for a Naked Lady. Now my suggestion box is truly empty. But I hope you keep trying and Have Fun. Jack. ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 9:23pm
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He will Jax, he's now at the point he has to nail one--by hook or by crook
There are many other avenues to explore in this quest Bazza, bowhunting, spearfishing, lasooing to name a few.
I didn't think of this one 'till now but are there any trees overlooking the mob?
Climb to a suitable branch, take careful aim & do a bellyflop on the buggars.
As Jax says, it's all about having fun
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Posted By: P-A
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 9:31pm
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Jack you are just to funny, i am cracking up here in cold sweden!!
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Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 10:33pm
If your really good you can tickle them like a trout! 
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 6:44am
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Hi PA. You will have to try the Naked Lady out on your fish in Sweden. Of course now that it is COLD up there, You may have to dress her to keep her from Freezing. But Hey! It could be Fun choosing a costume for her.
But be warned she is a Seductive Minx, so don't fall under her spell. Jax ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 9:11am
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Hi Onecast
Could you clarify please if this example is a bare hook held
in a foam tube to photograph or is intended as a bare hook
with a tampon attached?
Would not want to get it wrong!
Cheers
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 11:00am
Tickle them ?????????????????
What when I cannot even manage to snag or spear one?
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 11:32am
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Bazza; No tampun intended. Jax ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 11:44am
I'll show you what I mean when I come with you soon.
Ive got a few things to try out. Lures in the form of Mepps. Bananas, worms, chick peas, and carrots.
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 11:54am
Guys, let me know when will you go and I'll try go along as I have 1 or 2 tricks to try aswell. ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 12:24pm
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There you go bazza, one fly fisho, one lure finatic, and one spearo. I wonder who will win?
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Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 12:31pm
The mullet
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 1:44pm
Thank goodness it looked quite a **** of a thing to tie!
The intended version looks to be within my tying capability,
probably only just tho!
Cheers
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 2:26pm
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Here it is folks ( esp Baz ). The evidence that mullet can be caught with a FLY.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS0ZYAbU6h4&feature=related This will keep your hopes up Baz. end of discussion? ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 6:27pm
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Woopee!
Success at last!!! ( of a sort that is )
Will update with details after dinner!
Cheers
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Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 6:34pm
| If its on a fly I will be impressed! |
Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 8:26pm
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(..waiting in anticipation )
------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 8:33pm
No Rusky, must confess was not on a fly, but has been such
an ongoing saga, that I had lost sight of that being the original
objective.
Was on a spin rod using a chrome hex lure with a triple hook.
But wait it gets even more unsporting as the mullet was
snagged, unlike a fair sized parore that was mouth hooked.
This was something of a surprise, as had always thought
of parore as being solely weed eaters.
The sum total of hookups & landed was one mullet, one parore,
two small codlike things, endless small mussels plus one finger (mine)
Cheers
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Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 9:25pm
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Ok so the mullet didnt actually hit the lure but had a mistaken crash with your lure?
What did the mullet fight like?
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 9:34pm
Strangely enough it fought like a typical mullet!
Seriously though, is a bit hard to judge as was not
mouth hooked but would say considerable harder
than a similar sized trout.
The mouth hooked parore put up a really good fight tho.
Cheers
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 9:50pm
Good one Baz!!  ..Question though.. is that common to catch parore on a lure? like hex or spoons? I once caught a blue moki on a shallow estuary using a spoon. So same goes for parore huh. ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 10:46pm
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Good One Bazza; I'll bet it was Fun and very satisfying. Now for getting one on a fly. Jax ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2008 at 10:59pm
I can't say it's common, but this one took a green soft plastic lure
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Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2008 at 12:25am
Memorable catch eh Uncle
I once had a day where every spottie wanted to mate with my hex wobbler.....hooked them in the face, mouth, belly, etc.
In the youtube link posted by Kenshin, the bloke mentioned that mullet is best targetted at night. Now I remember that when I was night fishing the Napier wharf many moons ago, there were individual fish catapulting themselves out of the water- up to 3-4ft in the air. I have been told that this is a common behaviour of mullet. Is that a feeding behaviour? Bazza, perhaps you should re-try all the above solutions again a night?
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2008 at 9:26am
Start all over again Sooshee, only in the dark what a masochist ???????
Seriously tho a couple of points re the youtube link & your experience on the Napier wharf.
In both cases the fishing was at sea where I suspect their behaviour could differ & in the UK youtube clip they seemed to be fishing a river mouth into the sea. I highly suspect grey mullet may be similar to salmon inasmuch as before entering the river to spawn
they will feed but not once they enter the river. Salmon will strike out of aggression presumably to protect territory, not sure mullet do so & if they do I have not yet found
the right "trigger" factor.
Also in the youtube clip, altho the mullet appeared very similar to ours, pics I have seen of larger specimens they look different, mostly about the front, with a more pointed snout & thicker/higher shoulders. Also it would appear we have at least two species in NZ namely
grey & yelloweyed, of which I understand yelloweyed are more readily caught.
Yes they can be seen to leap occasionally out of the water, but nowhere near 3 or 4ft. I doubt very much that it is feeding behaviour, more likely to be an expression of joyous anticipation of being about to mate or having just done so, I can relate to that!
Rusky has stated they run to sea to spawn, nevertheless they appear to gravitate towards freshish water to mate, perhaps the reason they seem to not bother feeding.
Yes Sooshee, I may well try fishing a lomu fly in the dark in a day or two, when the tide suits, to see if that triggers any response but the problem will be not being able to determine if they are present in the dark or not, short of hooking one.
As the old saying states .................................... If at first you don't succeed ................. then
skydiving is definitely NOT for you!
Cheers
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Posted By: Pole Dancer
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2008 at 9:55am
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The Yellow eyed mullet is one of the easiest species to get on fly...
I'm changing the topic title to reflect that! ------------- http://www.clarkreid.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.clarkreid.co.nz FFF Certified Casting Instructor / Umpqua Designer Tier
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Posted By: Pole Dancer
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2008 at 9:58am
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The mullet puzzle will be solved... the Aussies are way ahead of us as this but I think Mr Worthington is well on the way after being frustrated by them for years... pretty sure he's nailed a few now...
Issue five of FLY ANGLER ( http://www.flyangler.com.au - www.flyangler.com.au ) has a piece by Justin Duggan on catching them as I mentioned earlier... This week I'll make a closer study...
 Parore are a different matter. not too hard at all I have found... In fact we got two big buggers (1.5 - 2 kg) off the rocks on the Coromandel yesterday.
Early in my SWF career there was a lot of talk about Parore and weed and weed flies. I know Richard Dobbinson has had good success at the Milford Marina using weed flies fished nymph like under an indicator but this method has not produced a single Parore for me. I believe it's because because there so much sea lettuce in Tauranga harbour that my fly is just another of 10,000,000 chunks of the stuff.
However, fishing with Matt McHugh (MattML on here) on the Cormandel he told me, and showed me pictures of the Parore he had got the previous day fishing a "Gotcha" around rock wash... and he did it again to prove it was no fluke.
Parore will eat burley so they are not vegetarians and I have noticed they always turn up if you are using shell fished based burley's. They also get extremely territorial with each other in this situation and aggression is the norm... I believe this may be a reason the Gotcha is hit, although i can't be ruled out that small shrimps etc as would be imitated by a Gotcha is part of their diet also.
So we just use a gotcha on an intermediate line and sight fish to them now in the burley or along the edges of rocks where they can be seen. The rocks east of Otama Beach on the Cormandel has some XOS specimens up to 4 kg's that are very targetable without burley but it's hard to stop those big buggers getting you into the kelp and weed, but we have fun trying.... ------------- http://www.clarkreid.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.clarkreid.co.nz FFF Certified Casting Instructor / Umpqua Designer Tier
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Posted By: FishMan
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 4:18am
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Clark, I'm guessing that the mullet Justin catches are spawning fish. We get the same around here in the middle of winter and I have seen the same happen on the outside of the Manukau. Basically the mullet spawn and then they turn around and eat their own eggs. Pretty stupid fish. They surface sip like krill feeding trevally. Their need for protien at this time is so great that they feed quite aggressively, and because of their unusual adipose eyelid I don't think they have great forward vision. The result is that and small fly drifted over a feeding school will get eaten. I have seen this behaviour in the middle of winter. Not sure why they do it earlier in Sydney?? The rest of the time they are a pain in the proverbial. The best method is to use a small size 10 or 12 hook and tie the smallest set of dumbbell eyes on it that you can buy. Next, tie a tiny bunch of bright red marabou in behind the eyes. Fish this slowly with a hand twist retrieve right in front of mullet that are grubbing on the bottom. If it is right in front of them when they've got their head down feeding they will actually chase it and snap at it. However, they are extremely spooky in clear water and achieving this is not easy. Also, you need a sand floor to do it on otherwise the weighted fly constantly snags on pipis. It is the best method I have found so far but limited by its effective use only in clean areas. I'm working on some bendback style flies that will get down but won't snag so much.
This fly seems to work even better on parore than the tan gotcha.
Any grey mullet that is not grubbing actively on the bottom should be ignored. They spend a lot of time just sun bathing and generally mucking around. Only fish to them when they're feeding.
A stupid infuriating fish.
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Posted By: Barbary B
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 6:43am
Maybe a tiny egg fly (glow bug) covered in floatant or a polystyrene bead coloured with a highlighter? ------------- "Look ahead, look astern, look to weather, look to lea Look down along the coast of High Barbary..." |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 8:28am
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Thanks for the further input Clark, Craig & Barbary.
Would like to ask a few further questions if I may.
Firstly have only tried for them when they have been
visible near the top or in mid water, which is when
Craig states they are generally not interested or
feeding & indeed this has been my experience to date.
They usually become visible for awhile either side of
slack water at low tide.
Outside of this period I have seen no evidence of their
presence but this could be because the water begins to
flow quite fast through a channel of large rocks, stirring
up & discolouring the water.
My first question is :- As it is nevertheless possible to fish
an adjacent area at all times of the tide, would the mullet
be likely to be still there & feeding on the bottom? If so I
could try "blind" fishing for them with a lure or fly in the
hope of a flukeing strike. ( btw left the "e" in flukeing even
tho it does not look quite right rather than risk post being
censored)
There are obviously beds of tiny mussels on the bottom as
have snagged them repeatedly, but have not lost any
flies or lures to them yet as the mostly seem to break
free usually embedded on the hook.
Yes have tried small sunken globugs already but to no
avail & as stated previously they do not appear to be
surface feeding therefore doubt if soaking in floatant
would work.
In order to fish near the bottom, may try using a floating
line & split shot towards the end of a leader trailing an
orange booby type globug or maraboo fly. Hopefully
this setup would keep the fly near the bottom but minimise
the risk of snagging on the tiny mussels etc.
Can but try I guess, hooking one using this setup would
prove they were there & probably feeding, but not hooking
one would not conclusively prove the weren't.
Cheers
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Posted By: FishMan
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 9:18am
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They are resting between feeds. Low tide is generally the time when they don't feed. I find the biggest ones moving with the clean water of the incoming tide as it pushes across the mudflats. They will be feeding all the way. There is a chance of catching those low tide cruisers by using a small (10 or 12) bright fly retrieved fast just below the surface with a quick jerky retrieve. It's not easy though. A slow retrieve on the bottom in front of feeding fish as the tide rises is much better.
Sounds like you need to hunt around a bit and find a nice shallow flat where they will be vacuuming the bottom on the incoming tide. You'll have your best chance of hooking up there.
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Posted By: Barbary B
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 10:21am
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Is Mullet Roe orange? ------------- "Look ahead, look astern, look to weather, look to lea Look down along the coast of High Barbary..." |
Posted By: FishMan
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 10:36am
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Trout and salmon have big roe / eggs because they live in an oxygen rich environment. Their eggs can be 5mm in diameter or more! Grey Mullet, like most marine species, have tiny eggs. Their eggs are only 0.75mm in diameter - virtually impossible to imitate. Mullet probably suck in small fishing flies accidentally when feeding in the sea on marine eggs and surface scum.
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 1:25pm
Bazza; Further to the Roe suggestion. 
Take a size 16 hook and attach to a nice supple leader. Now: Using a Hot Glue Gun Attach four or five small roe like blobs of glue to the leader about 3 to 5mm apart. Float this through the mullet and with any luck one of them may just play ball.
The glue comes in different colours so you could have a bit of fun coming up with an Ala Carte Menu for the Mullet. Have Fun. Jax ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 2:25pm
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I watched a guy with a throw net trying for them this morning.
He was fairly good at it but not good enough
Those mullet are pretty damn quick.
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Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 4:59pm
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Uncle; That guy with the Cast Net should learn from the Haiwaians and Africans and carry small stones [Gravel] in his pocket.
Throw a hand full of Gravel over the fish. They will scatter then Draw back into their usual formation again.
While they are scattering the Net is cast and drops over them as they drwn back together.
Well anyhooo thats is how they say it works. Worked for me in S.A. Have Fun. Jax ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 6:22pm
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The more I try to learn about trying to hook a mullet,
the more the realisation of how little I know is reinforced.
Am beginning to think women are easy to understand by
comparison & that is saying a lot.
O.K. todays attempts involved turning up at near to high
tide prepared with an assortment of new ideas to try.
Much as expected, being high tide no groups of mullet
could be seen, but does not mean they are not there of
course. Nothing at all resulted from trying a variety of new
methods, so as the tide changed to falling changed location
about 50 mtrs. to where the running tide could be fished
to best advantage, joining a guy already fishing there.
Because there is a reasonable chance of a snapper or a KY
I choose to also use two baited set rods, whilst flycasting in
earnest for a mullet. Was using the mullet caught/snagged
there a couple of days back & from the word go constant
bites without hookups were observed, which was a bit of
a distraction for the flycasting. After awhile explained to the
other guy fishing there ( who also had two baited rods ) that
my prime objective was to mouth hook a mullet, preferably
on a fly.
He replied in no uncertain terms that it was a complete waste
of time, as the mouth on a mullet is too soft to hold on a hook.
All this time the bites on the baited rods continued & about
15 mins later one finally had an obvious hookup. It did not
feel like a snapper, more like a KY which it was presumed to
be. So imagine the complete surprise on landing to discover
it was............................ wait for it......................................
a mullet & taken on a mullet bait !!!?????
Flyfishing once more proved to be fruitless but the baited rod
took another mullet..............................................
........dinner now ready, to be cont.
Cheers
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Posted By: andrew-simpson
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 7:04pm
| Classic! Maybe you should try a grey mullet fillet imitation fly!? |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 8:11pm
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it was............................ wait for it......................................
a mullet & taken on a mullet bait !!!?????
Flyfishing once more proved to be fruitless but the baited rod
took another mullet..............................................
........dinner now ready, to be cont.
Cheers [/QUOTE]
O.K. cont. -- At the risk getting to be worse than Coronation St.
if that was at all possible!!
So now against all the odds, we have two bait, mouth hooked
mullet, but wait, all is not as simple as it may seem, for the
plot thickens somewhat! ............................
It would appear that our two just hooked mullet, are in fact the
yellow eyed variety, whereas the previously caught mullet being
utilised as bait is the elusive Grey mullet!! The difference is readily
apparent by comparison, firstly by the yellow rather than darkish
eyes but the YE also has lighter colouring & a different headshape,
namely :- more pointed, whereas the grey is rather bullnosed.
Anyway, be that as it may, methinks " Great some fresh bait,
surely that will prove irresistable to any fish out there" so duly
re bait with the yellow eye, cast out & from that moment on, all
bites cease. Thinking that maybe the fish have moved off, try
re baiting with a few of the remnants of the original G/M &
whatdoyuno business as usual, the bites resume, go figure!!
No further hookups nevertheless, so decide to pack up &
prepared the hard won "catch of the day" into skinned fillets
for a friends' cat.
They were not in when I called, so on impulse decided to check
out another fishing possie I had been curious about.
At this location the skinned (therefore did not hold on the hook
very well) Y/E mullet accounted for 6 snapper in rapid succession,
of which admittedly, only two were of legal size.
What to make of all this???? I have not the slightest idea, other
than to reiterate, that making sense of it all is even more difficult
than trying to understand women, if that were possible !!
Cheers
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 8:18pm
I think version 2 is even more classic than v1
& Shortland St would be a better analogy, IMHO
Keep at 'em bazza, you're getting me somewhat interested.
Might even drag 'ol Jax out for a bit of a mission
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 8:23pm
Do you mean for the mullet or the women Uncle????
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 8:38pm
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Do you mean for the mullet or the women Uncle????
I'm not sure bazza, will have to consult Aunty
she's a woman so she should know |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 8:49pm
In any event Bill, best of luck.
Personally, I find success with either species equally as challenging!
Cheers
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 8:52pm
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grey mullet.. yellow mullet.. mullet on a mullet.. women and mullet.. My head hurts now.. ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 9:06pm
O.K. Kenshin / Ariel
Relax & take things easy, as you have yet to deal
with the sequel still to follow, involving the story about
the mullet & a throw net ............. watch this space!!
Cheers
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 9:23pm
O.K. Kenshin / Ariel
Relax & take things easy, as you have yet to deal
with the sequel still to follow, involving the story about
the mullet & a throw net ............. watch this space!!
Cheers [/QUOTE]I hope it wont end in a way you having a mullet hair cut!! LOLOLOL!!  ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2008 at 8:00am
Is that a grey mullet cut or a yelloweyed eyed mullet cut
Ariel?
Maybe it is a hybrid as altho his outer eyes are sort of
yellowish, the pupils lok more greyish!
I hope it wont end in a way you having a mullet hair cut!! LOLOLOL!! [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: Onecast
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2008 at 8:14am
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Uncle If you are going pastmy place. I would be happy to go see and have some Fun. But only with the Mullet. Women are too much for me to handle and My Little Lady Might not like it. Jax ------------- A man is only as big as the things that annoy him RIP 'Onecast' Jax Murray |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2008 at 10:51am
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There have been several mentions on this thread re using
a Hawaian throw net to catch mullet. This has put me in mind
of a story as told to me, by a resident amatuer fisho whilst in
Cairns.
Apparently there is a vatiety of smallish mullet there, called
"bug eyed mullet" due to their rather bulging eyes.
Anyway they tend to inhabit the rather murky estuarine upper
reaches & are a top rated bait, particularly if freshly caught.
The favoured method of catching them is to use a throw net
whilst standing on the bank, into any clear areas between the
mangroves.
This guy along with his buddy set out in the early hours with
their throw net & a largish bucket, intent on gathering bait for
a fishing excursion that day.
After repeated casts they had taken an average number on
most casts & had more than enough swimming in the bucket
for their fishing trip. They were making their way back to their
vehicle, when they noticed a "meatball" of b/e mullet, boiling on
the surface in a particular spot, that offered a clear shot with
the net. Despite the fact they already had quite enough they
could not resist such a rare opportunity to catch a record number
with one final throw.
So the net was duly cast & proved to be a perfect throw, encircling
the tightly accumulated mullet. Shortly after the net landed a
volcanic like erruption exploded, as the reason for the packed activity
became apparent ......................................... Yes a small to medium
sized crocodile was lurking under the terrified mullet & consequently
they had formed a "meat ball" in the hope of being afforded a degree
of protection.
The mullet were joined in the net by the croc, that quickly became
entangled from rolling & threshing about. One of them still had the
net cord attached to his wrist & was in real danger of being dragged
into the furore as well, but fortunately managed to release it after
some very anxious moments.
In all the the commotion that had ensured, the bucket of bait fell into
water meaning they had lost the net, bucket, bait & almost the
content of their bowels.
They decided to call off the planned fishing excursion, which only goes
to show how easily Aussies are put off or discouraged, altho to be fair
I guess most of us may have done likewise.
P.S. If anyone would like to read an article (ahem, written by a notable
author/writer) re flyfishing among the crocs, I will post a link in a
following post.
Cheers
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2008 at 11:07am
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http://flyanglersonline.com/ - http://flyanglersonline.com/ http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part1.php - features/worldwide/downunder/part5.php
This link should open the homepage, when/if it does
click on "features" in the side column then on the page
that appears "worldwide" then once again on "downunder"
The current article on flyfishing NZ should appear which is
probably quite pertinent given the recent posts to the forum
re back country fishing.
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/ - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/
There are several other interesting articles also that can be
accessed by scrolling to the end of the current article where
they are listed, including the one refered to titled "Flyfishing
the Northern Territory.
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part7.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part7.php Crocs
P.S. For a classic example of the misinformation often given
to overseas visitors intending to fish here read the first article (link below)
titled "Fly fishing New Zealand." Some of you may be interested
to learn that we are overun by pickpockets & that snacks, film,
detergent & insect repellant are difficult to purchase. It is also
worthy of note that it pays to be able to speak Spanish or French
if visiting here.
See you on the river sometime Marcel & all you amigos!!!
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part1.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part1.php NZ
PPS However I best not be too critical as many may find
justifyable fault with the article " Flyfishing Taupo Rivers & steams"
as well!
Cheers
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2008 at 1:47pm
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Hey baz.. one more for your list of how to catch mullet if your keeping one.. the Waikato river now is plagued with mullets.. huge numbers ( including koi ). They are like herds of cows grazing on shoreline weed and can easily be spotted now the water levels are low. Of course I attempted to snatch one using my known tactics... lures. And only one worked.. slow sinking rapalas. It gave an awesome fight, jumped above the water twice. It wasnt hooked on the mouth but on the part between the eyes ( forehead? ).. I reckon it tried to ram the lure when it got across its path or its just becaused of spawning season and they are having a bad attitude/ ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2008 at 2:58pm
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part5.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part5.php
This link should take readers direct to bazza & Ike's article.
Very good bazza, enjoyed reading that
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2008 at 5:09pm
Thanks for that Bill, not quite sure how you obtained the direct link
(I tried unsuccessfully) but certainly makes things a lot simpler.
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part5.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part5.php Taupo
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part7.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part7.php Crocs
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part1.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part1.php NZ
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part2.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part2.php NZ
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part3.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part3.php Tas
ht http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part4.php - tp://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part4.php NZ
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part6.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part6.php Aus
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part8.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part8.php Bass
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part9.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part9.php world
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part10.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part10.php NZ
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part11.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part11.php AUS
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part12.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part12.php NZ
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part13.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part13.php Aus
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part14.php - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/part14.php Aus
Item 1 is the article previously referred to as containing dubious advice re fishing in NZ.
Many of the other articles make interesting reading. Current NZ article link below.
http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/ - http://flyanglersonline.com/features/worldwide/downunder/
Plenty of bedtime reading in this lot!
Cheers
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2008 at 3:10pm
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At last a method that really works to catch mullet!
Cannot wait to try it, once the weather clears!!!
To think I have been doing it wrong all this time!!
http://media.putfile.com/Incredible-Fishing-Video - http://media.putfile.com/Incredible-Fishing-Video
Cheers
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2008 at 10:15am
Congratuations Kenshin
Do you know if it was a yellow eyed mullet or a grey?
Have you viewd the method shown in the putfile link included
in the post directly above?
Cheers
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2008 at 1:40pm
I reckon it was grey, as I didnt notice if the eyes are yellow or not.. I gave it to the local guy who was cheering me after I landed it. He was so happy. LOL I did.. might worth a try.. but I dont have fog lamps, how bout small torches? ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2008 at 6:04pm
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Hey bazza, are the mullet still around?
I watched a guy on Discovery catch grey mullet with bread and a float. The key thing seems to be the way the bread was put on the hook- fold a piece over the whole hook and pinch down the edges, trapping an air sac. I think the trapped air is meant to keep the bread on the surface as the mullet is a surface feeding fish.
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2008 at 6:42pm
No Sooshee
Have not seen any for several months now, so as suspected think it was a
seasonal breeding/mating or spawning ritual.
Yes I have seen video clips mainly from overseas, where they are being taken
on all types of flies. However it is usually at or near river mouths also they
appear to be a slightly different species, inasmuch as larger on average & the
most significant difference being a "pointy" snout, rather than the blunter,
squarish shape on our grey mullet.
As for bread. I tried tossing in handfuls of almost everything, bread, weetbix,
chicken pellets, porridge, sweetcorn etc. etc. without geting the slightest reaction.
The only couple I managed to hook were on of all things a bit of mullet of one
managed to foul hook.
Cheers
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