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Forum Name: Heavy Metal - Jig fishing
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Topic: Don't Laugh
Posted By: studio1
Subject: Don't Laugh
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 10:23am
G'day lads.
 
Heard about this crazy new jigging fad thing and decided its time to give it a go - so booked myself onto Damo's trip in March.
 
Damo kindly suggested I could hire some of his gear, but I'm really keen to use something I have.
 
Have a 10-15kg jellytip jig-spin, but alas no reel to match.
Just bought a Kilwell Live Fibre 10-15kg overhead (mainly to go with my TLD for a bit of livebaiting). The million dollar question - can I use my Penn Senator 9/0 filled with 80lb braid? I'm guessing the retrieve rate should be ok due to the spool size. Its me old kitefishing reel. Probably quite tiring but I used to haul in 2 kites being pulled in a 20kt wind with perhaps a 4ft shark and 4-5 snaps attached for 40mins - giving the old guns a good workout.
 
Only other thing I have suitable is a TLD15 - could spool with either some 50lb I have lying around or take off some 80lb from the penn.
 
Or am I just wasting me time?
 
Cheers,
Garrick



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Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 10:31am

Hi there Garrick - welcome to the forum,

Frankly you would be detracting considerably from the fun of jigging on light but powerful specialized jigging gear. It would be very hard work as well. Bite the bullet mate and hire Damo's gear.

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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 10:36am
As you know we just ran a clinic trip.
 
I guess you can jig with whatever you have available to use, hopefully on the trip Damo is running there will be guys on there with some purpose built gear. If you get the chance use it and the difference is huge. There are guys on here much more able to advise about the gear than I, but from the trip we were on I fished with a Stella 20000 and T Curve which is a great reel but the rod just makes it harder work than the shorter jigging rods.
 
Go hard with whatever you have or can hire, but keep your eyes open and start saving for your new jigging set upThumbs%20Up
 
Murf


Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 11:32am
Garrick, you can use what you have BUT it won't work well and you won't enjoy it!  Take Chopsticks advice &  buy it or hire Damos gear (don't exactly know what he uses apart from JM rod).  Modern jigging is a totally different animal to that of the 1970 - 80's where maybe your gear was readily used.  We are generally getting our results through the proper gear and technique.

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Posted By: wetdream
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 11:46am
Shopping time Garrick, you know you wana.

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Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 12:09pm
dude get some gear! Senator will be well uncool, your arms will be farked after only about 10mins, big heavy slug
I'd use the TLD15 with 50lb braid over the Senator. use thumbs (gloved) for extra drag Wink
 
good excuse for a TAS session, jigging is hell fun


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Posted By: studio1
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 12:16pm
sheesh, its never ending on the TAS front. wil have to do some investigatin then


Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 12:27pm

Good jigging tackle is specialised, why not give it a crack with what youve got and see if you like it, which i know you will.  then spend some cash and get some really good stuff. I know myself i have tried to get away with spending less on lesser gear only to find out it does not last, then i have had to go out and spend the money on the better gear, this has meant in the long run i have had to spend a whole lot more cash.



Posted By: studio1
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 12:46pm
sweet.....workmate has offered to lend me his Torium and T-curve setup.


Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 1:26pm
studio1 dont break your workmates T curve I would hire gear and then you will end up buy your own


Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by ginga ginga wrote:

 then spend some cash and get some really good stuff
yeah start spending lots and lots of money like me. Dont hesitate.. just do it. That way if you regret it later, its too late, you've already bought it......... so its algud.Big%20smile


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Posted By: studio1
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 2:27pm
nothing would please me more than breaking his t-curve and losing all his expensive braid Evil%20Smile


Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2008 at 4:56pm
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Posted By: orange ruffie
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2008 at 5:36pm
hey garrick what day u booked in march mate im on the 21 or 22nd trip , tld 15Confused nah not on damos boat , i use my tld 15 last time i was out with him and no shi# i was so close to being spooled had to snap it off, and besides wat a excuse to get new gear i just got a nice hi speed shimano reel with a jigwrex rod to battel sum green torpedo,s


Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2008 at 8:13pm
shop up say around $2000 for set up plus jigs and hooks,.


Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2008 at 8:20pm
orange ruffie,
 
Good to see you spending the money to help keep the industry ticking over. May I be so impertinent as to ask why you bought a high speed Shimano reel?


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Posted By: orange ruffie
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2008 at 9:21pm
for my kingi trip with damo


Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2008 at 9:57pm
Sorry orange ruffie, I didn't make myself very clear. What I meant to say was, why did you buy a hi-speed reel as opposed to a lower speed one?


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Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2008 at 10:18am
orange ruffie Torsa here what kind of shimano did u buy


Posted By: orange ruffie
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2008 at 10:44am
got a torium 20 loaded with 50lb braid and im in the process of upgrading the drag
(thxs to chris w) nice little reals,  wanted a torsa but not aloud to spend that muchCry


Posted By: orange ruffie
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2008 at 10:51am
Originally posted by chopsticks chopsticks wrote:

Sorry orange ruffie, I didn't make myself very clear. What I meant to say was, why did you buy a hi-speed reel as opposed to a lower speed one?
 
 
too make my jig move faster


Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2008 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by orange ruffie orange ruffie wrote:

too make my jig move faster
 
Okay. Thumbs%20Up  The reason I asked is the long jigs work best when you jerk them rather than just winding them in fast; in fact they have very little action if you do that. Speed helps combined with jerks, especially on the rocket jigs, but I've seen many good Kingies hooked on very slow retrieves with stops, starts etc. In NZ the myth persists that you have to wind in a jig flat-out to catch Kingies; it's a hang-over from the 70's and just tends to shag you really fast and is totally unecessary. Higher speed reels tend to make it harder to land fish and can be harder to jig with when using heavier jigs. That's why the worlds best and many of the hard-core jiggers on this site use lower speed reels, both overheads and spinners, with around a 4:1 to 4.9:1 retrieve .
 
Good luck with your Torium; they're nice reels and have accounted for a lot of Kingfish and other species in this country.
 
 


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Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2008 at 2:15pm
well said chopsticks my torsa is a big fast makes it difficult to retreve slow that is the torsa 20 now my torsa 16 is a different kettle of fish specialy on my 200grm rod its like poetry in motion slower the beta


Posted By: orange ruffie
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 4:02pm
the 70's **** i was still swimin around in the old mans sacks thenLOL
i see your point i got a few lower speed reels that i use for kings, got a 30w international that i use off the rocks and a couple tld's so guess i really only got the torium to extend the collection and it is alot lighter that the others aswell,
 
so torsa u prefer the 16 to the 20??


Posted By: JigNut
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 9:41pm
Orange ruffie I prefer my torsa 16 it ways less than my 20 and due to the fact that most on our Kingfish r in less than 50mtrs of H2o and comboed with 200grm rod it moves a 300grm jig effortlessly it holds aprox 600mttrs of 15kg braid LIGHTER is beta means u can jig all day

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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 10:10pm
70 was good,71 better


Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 10:20pm
I herd Drugs were cheap too


Posted By: orange ruffie
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 10:22pm
LOL showin your age jimijig, 



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