Jigging Clinic - the PLAN
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Topic: Jigging Clinic - the PLAN
Posted By: ChrisW
Subject: Jigging Clinic - the PLAN
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2008 at 9:09pm
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OK, here is the PLAN.
Thursday 17th - I'll be at the Whakatane Game Club & have some dinner around 6.15pm. Off to the Coastguard building around 7.15pm. Make a start on the training at 7.30pm. This off-water clinic is important if you want to learn knots etc so please get there before 7.30pm. Please have your $80 cash ready for the PR bobbin & assist components, $40 if you don't need the PR bobbin. Bring your tackle to this clinic.
We should finish around 9.30pm enough for a night cap then hit the bunks aboard Pursuit.
Depart wharf Friday 18th early for White/Volkners. Whole day spent jigging & coaching techniques etc. After a couple drifts I'm sure you will all be sorted out and you'll enjoy the rest of the day.
The coaches are myself, Jimijig and Ginga. Jimi needs no introduction to you but Ginga is the dark horse who has logged a few offshore trips with me at the 3 Kings (with jimi) and White whilst in the company of the famous Yoichi Mogi - the man who re-invented jigging as we know it. Ginga has just taken delivery of a new 7m charter boat and intends specialising in jigging and soft plastics and is based in Tauranga. Collectively, we possess the experience and wisedom that will kick start you all into the dark arts of jigging. So keep your minds open to different ideas and techniques, the day on the water will put you to the test. If the Kingies play ball, then I'm sure you will all enjoy the experience.
I'll have a few Zest prizes to give away near the day's end so be sharp as you may be the lucky jigger.
N.B. all Kingies will be released after the obligatory photos.
My cell is 021 423-817
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2008 at 9:33pm
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I buggered up prices for the above equipment. should read - $80 for PR bobbin plus assist components or...
$40 for assist components only
CASH please (correct change appreciated). ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 6:31am
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when are you going to do one woth damo chris...i would like to upskill a bit more.. ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 7:05am
| Awesome cant wait Chris. |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 11:22am
| 7 MORE SLEEPS |
Posted By: Uhunter
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 12:04pm
| We may need to close our eyes as we cruise past the yellowfin. |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 12:52pm
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Rick asked if anyone would be keen to haul a lure while out there. I said keen beyond a doubt, but I think we need to stick to our plan. Need to make the most of our opportunity to learn from our men running the clinic.
Murf
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 12:57pm
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I'm waiting for the big invite!
This sort of thing needs to work in with my busy program so I need lots of advanced warning. Cheap "grab-a-seat" fares help in the timing  . ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 12:59pm
Yeah, stick to the plan. We can troll back or even drop jigs for the Fin if they are still about on the return. ------------- give it death! |
murf007 wrote:Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 1:02pm
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Uhunter (Nathan) has reminded me that the Whakatane Game Fishing Club has a great restaurant, bar, showers etc that are available to us. But we must all sign in as a group. Nathan and his father will be there at 6pm to facilitate this and transport some of us to the Coastguard building down the road. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: snapper14
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 3:28pm
total jealousy here! i should have been watching the forum a bit closer 
have a great trip all of you who are going! ------------- If a man goes nowhere and theres no one there to see him, did he ever leave? Munter - Outrageous Fortune. |
Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 6:00pm
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yeah ha cant handle the wait any longer.Stella any chance of you knocking off early so we can get there by sixish then we can grab some food at the club with the crew? Come on horse i dare ya to test my set up im ready for ya!! |
Posted By: Bunzo
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 7:16pm
'DON'T FORGET THE CAMERA AND VIDIO',  have fun
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 9:31pm
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I'll have the camera, Ginga may bring his video. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 10:16pm
| It will be nice to see a yellow fin or 2 wearing a jig....all the best fellas. |
Posted By: big blue
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2008 at 11:21pm
| have a great trip guys!!!!!! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 12:21pm
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To say I'm looking forward to this would be some what of an understatement. To rub shoulders with the likes of Jimi Ginga and Chris will be fantastic. I am sure with some gental persuasion we could knock together another trip out.
It may require some careful timing though..........
Cheers Murf
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Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 4:36pm
| I will bring my vid camera and digital, i will be able to cut some to disks later on and distibute out, so probably no need for everybody to bring cameras and all get the same photos, this also helps to minimise time fish spend out of the water which is all good. |
Posted By: Diverbloke
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 4:58pm
| sounds like a ferkin'fine plan 2 me(complete video dunce)!! |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 7:32pm
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Bring these jigs -
e.g. if you bring 10 jigs, make up should as follows -
300g x 3
400g x 4
500g x 3
Tackle should preferably be PE8. If you have a PE5 outfit then bring that along too. This type of jigging is NOT light line or IGFA stuff.  ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 9:41pm
300gm for when ya too tired to jig for big fish ?"Mitre ten mega..........."
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 9:54pm
If I have ten jigs I'll bring them I'll bring all I have left and hopefully that gets me half way there
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Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 10:03pm
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you fishing tomorrow murf?hoping my skipper will let me jig a mid water meat ball this weekend a mate nailed two marlin yesterday said he say plenty of mid water balling jig jig jig keen as.Have we filled all the spots for next weekend did. |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 10:22pm
Dont worry murf,generous jim wil back you up if your short.  |
Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 10:40pm
| on ya jimi yeah i got one here for ya for all the work you put in murf! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 10:48pm
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I got some home made jigs that I'll bring along. Think I need to give them a bit of flashing up though. At this stage they are just long Stainless Steel pipe that rattle when jigged. #8 wire technology.
Thanks for the offers hopefully I can get a couple more sorted out before next week.
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 10:53pm
| Not sure if I can get out for the TGFC. Got the young fella and his cousin here for weekend I will have to look after them. Probably head over for a habour fish and maybe head out to Astrolab if the sea is kind. What is the name of the boat you will be out on accurafisha? Mine is "Sunsoaker" |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 11:13pm
Yeah they'll work Murf, you just need to get them heavy enough otherwise you'll be wasting your time. I'll have the odd spare jig too. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2008 at 11:19pm
If they don't work Chris they will make handy fish dongers
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Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2008 at 1:18pm
| If i could only bring one jig at the moment it would be a purple 300 gram curved slider, ive had a few tough days recently and it has been the one producing the goods on the tough days. |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2008 at 2:10pm
| Cheers ginga see if I can find one at my local store?????????????????????? |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2008 at 7:49pm
| Plenty of jig's Murf dont panic. |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2008 at 10:35pm
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Thanks guys
Hopefully I'll have enough, few home made jobbies that need testing
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Posted By: Diverbloke
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2008 at 10:02am
| You won't go without Murf-we"ll probably all be fighting over your home-made jobs by days end anyway!Hope you've slayed a couple of practice 30-odd kilo fish today! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2008 at 11:42am
| Na not today wheel bearings on trailer. Tomorrow hopefully is the day. The boy and his cuz here keen as so we'll see what tomorrow brings. |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2008 at 1:22pm
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Please add the following equipment to bring -
cigarette lighter
split ring pliers
I have just phoned the Iceman tackle store who are on the same wharf as Pursuit is tied to. If you identified yourself as part of the jigging clinic, they will give you a discount. They open at 5am.
------------- give it death! |
Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2008 at 9:32pm
hey guys  ------------- Who Stole my PoPcoRn! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2008 at 10:00pm
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Hey PimPymPopper long time no hear. Still looking forward to trip? |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2008 at 10:37pm
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will catch up with you guys at the Whakatane clubrooms about 5.30pm Thursday
-------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2008 at 10:44pm
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On ya Kaveman.
How the fishing been up your way??
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2008 at 7:32am
too busy working  but wont be long before i bust outhope the long range forcast for next friday is better than the one on Metvuw, 15 knots east going 25 in the afternoon and 40knots on Saturday should be OK for friday with a little bit of luck. just hope the front doesnt pass through a day early and we get the sh#t on friday  ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2008 at 8:15am
yea Murf i sure am  . Roll on Thursday...------------- Who Stole my PoPcoRn! |
Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2008 at 11:42am
good tip ginga, i'll have a look round for one of them  ------------- Who Stole my PoPcoRn! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2008 at 10:24pm
| Chris just to clear the air this trip is a catch and release only trip, correct? |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 6:07am
| viberant |
Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 6:30am
yay does this mean i get to eat friday night....
 luv the fillet and release Jimi..... lmao! ------------- Who Stole my PoPcoRn! |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 8:54am
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Hey guys everyone going on this trip should clear up now whether or not they intend to keep any fish, could be interesting if we are fifty km offshore and someone decides to kill a fish and everybody else wants to release. IMHO kingies are great to eat but on a trip like this i would like to release saying that i do get plenty of oppurtunies to catch one for a feed when i desire. The guys who dont get to sample kingie flesh very often may want to take some home and if they are paying good money for the trip it is their perogative to do so. My suggestion would be if people are going to keep some fish then as a group we should set our own limits and not turn this trip into a harvesting mission.
What if we get a yellowfin or two i would loooove to take home some of those tasty buggers.
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 9:54am
I will state that killing Kings is a personal perogative and I don't want to stop anyone taking home a feed back to the families. I think that Rick has a boat limit of one King per person per day which I think is sufficient for any angler to kill. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 10:01am
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Saturday's alright for jigging.... (to the music of Elton John ).
Jimi, Myself & Ginga were planning on a jig in Ginga's new charter boat out of Tauranga. Originally Diverbloke and his mate were going to join us but Diverbloke had a fight with a chainsaw last weekend & now both are pulling out of this and the clinic too.
So the Thursday/Friday clinic now has 2 vacancies and 2 vacancies for jigging Saturday out of Tauranga. Firstly is there any more interest in filling the 2 vacancies for the clinic? Murf is there a reserve list?
Any interest from 2 guys wanting more jig time on Saturday for $100 each? PM me on this matter. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: Bunzo
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 11:17am
Is there interest! is Hamilton the closest international airport? Cam, got a spare bed?
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Posted By: Diverbloke
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 11:48am
Whoa back there fellas-i just talked to Murf and there is only the 1 spot for the clinics and 2on the sat ginga/jimi/Chrisw trip.If anyone is keen i would really appreciate getting a little of me cash back(don't mention the airfares )PM me or call 0274 346 195.
Cheers Rick.
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 11:55am
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Due to me over booking.........opps almost most couldn't go myself!!!! So we have ONE spot to fill.
Diverbloke bloody bad luck mate! We'll have to organise another clinic...............
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Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 12:35pm
| Hi Murf, if that one spot (and the two spots with ginga) are still available, then I would like to be there. Can you pm me your phone number asap to sort things out? Thanks. |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 1:28pm
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gone.......................... |
well done sooshee keep in touch with diveblokePosted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 1:48pm
| All sorted with Diverbloke! Whakatane here I come! |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 4:39pm
| Hey Diverbloke i am an arborist next time you feel like arguing with a chainsaw give us a yell and we might be able to help you out, bugger about the saturday but keep in touch might be able to organise another day out. |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 4:56pm
| Just looked at bouy weather for friday could be an interesting bar crossing if we get what is forecast, lets hope they are wrong and it is glassy calm. |
Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 7:00pm
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I wont be taking a fish home as i dont know enough people to feed my 30kg monster am pretty sure stella will be the same we get plenty for a feed.4 more sleeps,yay!Spent the weekend off whakatane meatballs, gannets and tuna everywhere was an awesome sight.
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 9:12pm
| How did you get on accuafisha? |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 9:41pm
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YeeHa anybody else looked at swell map for friday |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 9:43pm
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Might not have to jig.........just heave and leave
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 9:45pm
| No pressure boys but the teaching part better take in how to hurl and jig at the same time |
Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 9:56pm
| had an awesome weekend left the tauranga entrance on friday avo straight to astrolabe for jig hit six in an hour best being a nice king of 18+.Out passed plate to whale sat action everywhere at least fifty boats though so yellow fin prob bit lure shy,i hooked a fish next to a meatball on a jig ran and spat it damn it all.Nothing on the tuna front for us they all caught other side of plate on weekend.How you go murf.Ya get to the lab? |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2008 at 10:08pm
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No, the CREW!!!!! felt xbox was the go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Keen as" turned into "xbox as" Told them that there are only so many fine weekends and plently of not so great ones looming. Mes think the CREW may have pulled their heads in but, I guess I'll find out next time????????
Maybe looking for new crew..............................
Sounds like you had a bit of fun aye, good man.
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Posted By: Diverbloke
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 9:15am
Hey ginga,I'm actually a bushman-used a saw professionally for nearly 15 years-so i'm qualified to nick me own foot cutting skinny manuka firewood at home
 All i could think about was the trip when i did it
 Yeah i'll definately be doin'a trip up that way before too much longer-might be able to save up forJM and BIG drag type reel to slow the monsta's down!!!!
Anywho you fella's give it DEATH!!!!
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 3:47pm
How many people on trip smoke tabacco
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Posted By: Rank Amateur
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 5:00pm
| Go hard and slay them guys... will be waiting for the report with baited breath as I sit here at work! |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 5:19pm
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i chew gum |
Posted By: DeKay
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 7:52pm
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Have a great time guys and well done on the late score sooshee. I wish I could swing a pass at late notice. In my house it would go something like... Hi Honey, I was thinking... would it be ok if I go fishing this weekend? I know it's the public holiday and we had planned to go camping with your mother and the toddler. Sure, what did you have in mind, saturday morning, south coast or pukerua bay? Oh, Just Tauranga on Pursuit for a couple of days. You know, fly there, famous charter boat, fish like a madman with the jigmeisters, get very little sleep, there might be a small 'social occasion' and I should be back in time for work on tuesday... It's probably lucky I missed the boat. It's nice to see these sort of events come to pass through the forum and respect to all those involved. I know you probably aren't looking forward to it and you might not enjoy enjoy the weekend but I hope that you try to make the most out of it. have a great time! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 8:30pm
Deeeeeeekaaaaaaaaaaaay (sorry couldn't lift my finger off the key fast enough) I'm sure that there will be another one of these events sooner rather than later. You will get your opportunity to ask your wife those questions .
I've heard stories of guys cutting their legs trying to avoid having to come along, so far the balance of the group has remained strong and they appear to be in control.............only time will tell.
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Posted By: Pole Dancer
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 9:50pm
Oh you poor naive chap.... ------------- http://www.clarkreid.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.clarkreid.co.nz FFF Certified Casting Instructor / Umpqua Designer Tier 
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 9:55pm
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Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 10:03pm
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Deekay, you have no idea about the big hole in my brownie points account this has cost me..... Just praying the big swell predicted for Friday will not eventuate otherwise I am just travelling up all the way there to have a heave.... |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2008 at 10:10pm
| I smoke anything that burns ill try it once lol |
Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 5:22pm
abit of berley wont hurt
 ------------- Who Stole my PoPcoRn! |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 7:50pm
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Weather not good ,bar closed today at Whakatane.
We need a back up plan?
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Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 8:21pm
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i agree. Once it gets over 20knts (and its forecast for 25)may be wise to reschedule?
Definately need a back up plan tho...  ------------- Who Stole my PoPcoRn! |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:00pm
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OK, backup plan as follows -
Head back down to Tauranga. Ginga and probably Paul (Primo Charters) can take us to at least the Tauranga harbour entrance. At least we are fishing and costs will be reduced too!
What do you guys think? Better give Paul a yell! ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:24pm
| If that's the case I've got a 6m boat that can fish 3 - 4 comfy............ |
Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:30pm
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the entrance been fishing not very well at all last couple weeks if thats the go my boat take me and another stella prob take his as well i dont think grouse(paul)be keen on entrance its pretty lame chris! |
Posted By: PimPmyPopper
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:31pm
i heard Rick pulled a 92kg yellowfin today  ------------- Who Stole my PoPcoRn! |
Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:33pm
| on that sour note though ill jig anything if we do jig entrance hehehehe local knowledge ah haha |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:42pm
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As they say a lot can happen in 48 hrs
Hopefully we can continue with plan A
If not we still meet at the Game Club in Whakatane, run the clinic etc. I am catchin up with Rick P at about 530 He will give us some advice on how he thinks the weather roll out the following day. If it turns to custard plan B Tauranga..............All those in favour say I....Thank you........Cool plan B sorted
 I've only been called Hitler once before!! |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:50pm
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PLAN 'C' |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:56pm
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Got to love that movie
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Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:57pm
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Good luck guys - you're going to need it unfortunately. At least you'll learn how to tie a PR knot. ------------- CONFIDENCE: The feeling you have before fully understanding the situation. |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 9:58pm
| BIG SWELL NOT MUCH WIND 6 TO 8 KNOTS IF THE BAR OPEN WE SHOULD GO AND I DONT MEAN THE PUBLIC BAR WE ALL NEED TO HARDEN UP |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:06pm
i heard Rick pulled a 92kg yellowfin today
This is true confirmned @ 92.8kg 2.2kg of the record, caught trolling what ever that is,lol
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:06pm
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crystal ball? |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:09pm
| no crystall but some hairy ones and they dont say much, i guess it's up to Mr Pollock and we have to respect whatever his decision is. |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:09pm
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Cheers Chopsticks
I am sure that Rick will make the correct call. We had a trip planned a few years ago with him and the weather was doggy for the long haul out to White, so we made the call to head to Whale and see what it was like the following morning. Rick knows the area very well and his advice was spot on, would have been a nasty night getting to White.
Just have to play it by ear.
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:13pm
| See ya there then. |
Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:13pm
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Murf - I'm happy for Rick to make the call. If the weather's crap but he thinks it's still okay, we should all harden up like what stella says. Hopefully there is a fishy sheltered spot off white island??? Plan B sounds like a good plan B. Should we bring bait for that |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:14pm
| See ya there then. |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:14pm
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Jimi try this site
http://www.port-tauranga.co.nz - www.port-tauranga.co.nz then look at environment tab
At the bottom of page it has coastal forcast - plenty
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Posted By: Tongan Terror
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:17pm
9 knots 8 feet the spanish goat dancer would love this little swell us bay boys putting up for ya pursuit eat it up we going fishing nothin but rolling lazy swell yeah ha 
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:17pm
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Chur |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:21pm
| Looking at that Murf007 all should be good as long as the bar is playing the game. |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:22pm
| 12 hours is that it |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2008 at 10:24pm
| pavlovas |