long jigs
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Topic: long jigs
Posted By: murf007
Subject: long jigs
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 12:02pm
| Just wondering what the set up for long jigs I heard the other day about using a second hook and attaching both the top and bottom hook to the body of the jig with rubber bands is that the go? I guess it is to help hook up on the fall? |
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Posted By: Benk
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 4:22pm
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I dont reckon its a good idea myself, not to say i havnt tried it every now and then... - Double the terminal tackle cost - more than twice as likely to snag on the bottom - way harder on the fish when hes got 1 hook in the mouth and another in the eyeball. - waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more dangerous for the angler. I never bother with rubber bands, dont need em, and they make every thing look mickey mouse. Any time I have had a kinfish bump on the way down, let a couple more meters go, click the reel in gear, and youll hook him or one of his mates 95% of the time anyway. When first trialing an assist at the top and an assist at the bottom I got a stroppy wee kingie to the surace pretty quick, hoofed him in the boat and as he was thrashing around I became 'handcuffed' to the kingfish via the jig/second assist, and the second hook went through the crutch of my jeans, another inch and it would have made for an interesting size 35 Gammy scrotum piercing  lucky they were old fishing jeans, and a bit big eh... |
Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 5:33pm
It's amazing what a single free-swinging assist hook can hook up. I've hooked a couple of kahawai on their backs, a 10cm wrasse from the bottom to the top of the jaw, and a rays bream through one side of the jaw to the other. Haven't hooked one in the scrotum though  .
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 7:04pm
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The Japanese who invented this style of jigging don't use rubber bands. Neither do I. I never had problems hooking up on the fall butyou will have far more hits on the lift than the fall.
A free swinging hook has found to be better all-round than a fixed banded one. A second hook on the bottom can be used but might also snag easier and tangle with the leader when mechanical jigging. A second hook also presents a danger to the poor guy trying to subdue a thrashing kingie in order to unhook it. Plus other reasons outlined by Benk and Sooshee. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 8:52pm
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Cheers guys I'll continue with the status quo then.
Chris where do you operate from?
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Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 9:16pm
| While we are on this topic, what do you think is the best length of assist hook in proportion to the jig body? I have mine 1/3 to 1/2 the body length of the jig. Interested to know general preferences. Thanks. |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 9:28pm
Switzerland!
Nah, wellywood. ------------- give it death! |
murf007 wrote:Posted By: Benk
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 9:31am
| Mine are 1/3 or less sooshee, as long as it is no longer than 1/3 im not fussy. Kingies have pretty big gobs. |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:13am
Yeah that is about right. I had to make and extra long assist when rigging up my 60cm long Dancing Magic jig.
 ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: otter
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:23am
| what the >>> do you wack them over the head with that one or do you actualy jig with that monster??? |
Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:26am
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I concur with the one hook method. Love those long jigs with kingies smashing them. On deep drops I tend to halt the drop with my thumb periodically - giving the jig a jerking action (Shimano Torsa lever drag). On surface cast and retrieves, I like using my Baitrunner 6500. Tried rubber bands - didn't seem to increase strikes or catches, so I don't bother. And as I hardly ever keep Kingfish these days - one hook easier/better to release.
80lb mono short trace with 24 or 37kg braid for the deep stuff, Baitrunner has 10 or 15kg mono for surface jig retrieval - very exciting style of hookups
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Posted By: Elpescador
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:28am
| You will definatly get more hookups on the drop if you do use a rubber band! |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 3:52pm
Yep, we actually jig with that! Proof of the pudding - 3 Kings @ Princess Group. About a 25kg King in real tiger country. I didn't want to lose my $350 jig. Measured my drag later and it was set to 15kg.
 It wasn't easy jigging this 1.2kg jig. A simple yoyo was all I could do, at least it was shallow water BUT shallow = cut-off, so had to crank up drag a bit more. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 9:16pm
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Benk hes bang onto it alright. Mark here Ben when we going fishing, plenty good fish out there at the mo |
Posted By: Benk
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 9:52pm
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Hi Mark, ohhhh dunno when. Im crew for a puka trip this weekend, so I guess that is out for the minute. If something crops up gimme a shout, and ill do the same, happy to shuffle work for fishing  Who have you been out with recently? |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 9:55pm
Maybe MOF should come up with a 75 cm jig come measure atleast it might be useful
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Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:00pm
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All going well I am heading out toward Karewa this weekend long jigs and s plastics.
A wee question on my reel (stella) I set it to 20lbs drag, with scales, is there any issue leaving it compressed while not fishing or would I be better off backing it off when it is at home waiting for next trip out fishing.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:10pm
murf007.... back of all my reels, even spinning, stops compression of washers.  good luck with the fishing |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:16pm
| Cheers on both counts kaveman |
Posted By: Benk
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 7:13am
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Crickey murf, 20lb's!? That first fish is going to own you Be sure to give us a trip report when you get back Ben |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 8:00am
Nothing like ripping it off the rocks before it rips me off in the rocks
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Posted By: Benk
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 8:27am
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Youll be surprised how fast 20lbs, becomes 30lbs,
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 9:40am
| Guess that Stella aint a 2500 ! |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 4:20pm
Yup looking forward to hangin on
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Posted By: Benk
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 4:24pm
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Be sure to drop a jig or two on A-bouy on your way out (pretty sure it would be the same Karewa, out of Tauranga I presume?) |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 4:41pm
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You know it
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Posted By: otter
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2007 at 12:30pm
| $350 for a jig mailto:F@#$k - F@#$k but he they work nice one |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2007 at 9:40am
| Sea a bit rough on sat for me little boat but we got out on sunday and dropped a jig or two. No luck on the kings but scored a very fat 12 lb snapper plus several cuda mailto:F@#K - F@#K |
Posted By: LBGer
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2007 at 10:19pm
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That lure gives new meaning to the term 'long jig' The cool thing is that you could use it to measure the king to see if it is legal or not!!!
------------- A king on the bricks is worth 5 in a boat. |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2007 at 5:02pm
SHOWER RAILS ARE WHERE ITS AT MURF |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2007 at 7:31pm
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Awesome mate I've been looking at the rails around the house will she miss them???????????
Only one way to find out.......
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Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2007 at 8:31pm
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Jimi, how about putting a few loose ball sinkers in there for a bit of rattle? |
Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2007 at 8:58pm
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Awesome looking jigs Jimi. ------------- CONFIDENCE: The feeling you have before fully understanding the situation. |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2007 at 10:41pm
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I HAVE PUT SOME BALLS IN THEM B 4,ALL GOOD,NOISE IS WHERE ITS AT |
Posted By: murf007
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2007 at 9:56pm
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Hey Jimi
I have some lenghts of stainless tubing at work OD of 19mm crushed the end over and then got some 5/8" earth rod cut into several lenghts so there is a small amount of movement between them inside the main tube. Then crushed the other end to close off lure (?????????)
Question where do you get the bling for the outside and what size hole did you drill for spilt ring?
Cheers Murf
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2007 at 5:04pm
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SIGN WRITERS
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Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2007 at 5:17pm
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3MM HOLE |
Posted By: JTF
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 6:00pm
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COAT OF CLEAR OVER THE HOLOGRAHPIC FOIL |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 6:55pm
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Brilliant ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |