Fav. Snapper candy?
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Topic: Fav. Snapper candy?
Posted By: Espresso
Subject: Fav. Snapper candy?
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 9:17am
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If you had all options available on a particular day - what would be your ideal/preferred live or dead Snapper baits (not Soft Baits)? Pilchards
Piper
Squid
Crayfish
Anchovy
Koheru
Mackerel
Kahawai
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Posted By: Peter da Squid
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 9:22am
just like this or not long departed |
Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 9:36am
Couldnt agree more. Absolute number 1 big snapper bait. Just add a couple of 10/0 hooks and release back to the sea ------------- I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints |
Peter da Squid wrote:Posted By: empty
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 9:55am
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mullet
------------- what happened to the pissing man? |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 9:59am
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the bad man with 8 arms everytime...... the buggars can't help themselves...but not only snapper....I'd say nearly every predatory fish that swims likes a bit of ink in their eyez. I think it has something to do with the lack of bones to digest and the high energy return...fresherer the betterer! |
Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02am
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Fresh squid or koheru about the same for me. Then fresh jack mackeral. If using dead baits, either pillies or squid. ------------- Nobody has ever come up with a great idea after a second bottle of water. |
Posted By: Ski
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 10:16am
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butterflied or a side of trevally has to be up there too,or butterflied jackmac .i presume your meaning moocha baits espresso....those fresh squids do get monstered tho! ------------- yamaha reliability senator stability shimano superiority the rest is up to the fish! |
Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 10:21am
| squids, slimeys and trev |
Posted By: Finatic
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 10:26am
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A squid turned into a 16+ armed octopus. ------------- What's the cheapest type of meat? Dear balls. They're under a buck. |
Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 10:37am
| Bleeding and wriggling slimeys. Although I'd pinch pdsQ live squid if he had one within reach - unless kezza stoles it first auw. |
Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 10:45am
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There were 3 or was it 4 fishermen sitting in a boat at Pakiri. One
spotted a squid swiming around the boat. Another caught this squid and
was kind enough to pass it to the 3rd angler. The party of intrepid anglers made a quick move to another spot and the angler with the fresh live squid straylined in down. Within 2 minutes this was the result  One 20 pound snapper Then there was a party of five at the barrier one time. The ugliest of the five put a live Squid in the water and 30 seconds later became connected to and landed this  ------------- I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints |
Posted By: Accident Prone
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 10:50am
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Fresh live squid
Live but slightly injured slimies or jack macks
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 11:06am
nice one Pig....but then on the very next bait (another Squid) or perhaps it was the one before that kingi (memory slightly hazy from that morning you understand) and before you monkeys could get a firm grasp Operation Squid Inc. I expertly snaffled one of the other live squid, cast it out and booooyaaa.....no more than 10seconds soak time! |
Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 11:30am
Isn't it funny how perceptions of one event differ between people? I seem to recall that, once relocated, one of the party dived headlong across the boat whilst manhandling the others out of the way with his lashing elbows and kicking feet, grabbing the squid and shouting "f off that's mine," before retiring to the corner, snarling and pawing the deck while he baited up..."
He then stuck the rod in the rod holder and turned, adopting a fearsome pose, lest anyone make an attempt to touch said fishing rod when it inevitably bent double.
But that's just how I recall the occasion.  ------------- Nobody has ever come up with a great idea after a second bottle of water. |
Posted By: Phats
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 11:31am
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What happened with mine then ?
*Ducking for cover* ------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
Posted By: Damo
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 11:58am
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ahhhhh fond memories there Kezz! How was those squids inking in terror on the surface in that bay as that kingi had breakie on them - fired it straight in a WHAMO on the ammo!!! shall never forget the ink getting shot out of the water hehehehe
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 12:24pm
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yeah man......was certainly a surreal experience and one I wont forget in a hurry....how cool would that have been to capture the action from below the water on film.....balled up squid getting dealt to in 5ms of water!! pretty bloody churrrrr! |
Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 1:24pm
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Although some of those livebaits are the best, my opinion has cooked mussells as the best "other" bait.
It's a cheap option and good to eat between snapper. Another bonus is that sharks "usually" leave it alone. ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:01pm
I think you have a distorted memory. Old age on your behalf? ------------- I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints |
Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:01pm
How many 20 pound fish have you caught on a cooked mussel? ------------- I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints |
Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:02pm
What was it AC screamed ? ------------- I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints |
Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:34pm
Have to say as another of the three but I recal 4 anglers on the boat that day my recolection seems to be more closely alligned to Benders
From Memory PDS caught the squid ------------- http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz">  http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz">www.boulderguiding.co.nz |
Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:36pm
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No Kerren caught the squid, PDS wasnt even on the boat. Thus your memory is so defective you are ruled as unreliable. That is all ------------- I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints |
Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:38pm
True dat  ------------- http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz"> http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz">www.boulderguiding.co.nz |
Posted By: Mahiman
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:54pm
| Live squid, Koheru, Slimey.............. |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 4:06pm
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"No Kerren caught the squid, PDS wasnt even on the boat. Thus your memory is so defective you are ruled as unreliable. That is all" hahahahahaha.......ya can't argue with that logic now can ya B'oldie?  and what was it that AC screemed like a sissy girl? "THRESHER SHARK YA HOMOS - pass another beer please! this one has evaporated again" funnily enough same thing happened last night over at AC's.....if you read this before you come back thru duty free AC....you need more of everything...that is all! |
Posted By: Ab_Fab
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 8:00am
Classic! |
Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 8:46am
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Those pictures look tasty to me, reckon I'd be stashing one of those away for me let alone the Snapper! So what would be the ultimate Soft Bait imitation of said Squid.....since a big juicy Squid seems to be the bait consensus...same colour as posted above? Bit of glow in the dark material...but what about action and size she asked!? The action of squid baits I have seen in the market is rather stiff, hard and un-squid like. I'm thinking of stretchier, softer, lighter weight, flexible squid...how about the size, or sizes? A 5 or 6inch would be the go for general Snapper I guess, and then a big 9 inch for enticing the moochers?? A couple of eyes, dangly tentacles, soft enough to use worm hooks/jig heads (especially on the 5-6inch job). Keen to see if it can be done for catching Snapper specifically.
What do you reckon?
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Posted By: KeenAs
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 8:49am
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Let us know when have the prototype sorted Grant |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 9:05am
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Grant, Some of these http://www.rnrmarinesupply.com/luresTrollingSoft.htm - suckers (pink/shrimp, rootbeer or pink flake) in 9" might be a starting point for some research....although a "trolling" skirt more or less, I am sure with a bit o' #8 wire technology and a bit of lead in the design you'd be able to fashion up a pretty convincing squid imitation "sift bait".....also work very well with a film canister (what are those?) slipped down over the head on the mantel and towed around in the warm blue stuff. I've got a few of the 12" varities kicking about the place....Gurocks in Avondale are Yo Zuri stockists Steve Badman ( http://www.outdoorcart.com/demon/arrowsquid.htm - Demon Lures ) does and awesome imitation as well.....pre-rigged....have only tried the hard body version used as a "jig" and it works really well.... |
Posted By: Saltiga
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 9:09am
| live mackrel, nice bite sized ones, big skippy head out on dusk floating line.... |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 4:21pm
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stunned maumau [spelling] no need to trim them down to look like a pillie just slice em open and hang on. cook mussel bushie yip got a 22lber on a wee bit and a 1/0 hook. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: S-P addict
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 4:34pm
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1/0 hook and a cooked mussel
22lber.
And to think a bleeding twitching butterflied jack mac or a big Jerk shad or pogy cant entice fish like that for me.
  The Gulp! clams could be worth a shot.
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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 5:02pm
Just the one, plus numerous between 15 and 20. Oh, and a 35 kg puka. Does that count? ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: S-P addict
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 5:08pm
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Jesus im off to buy some mussels ------------- __!__ &nbs |
Posted By: Naki man
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 9:12pm
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1/2 a fresh kahawai, Squid, pillie
Haven't tried live squid. The squid we were catching this year were about 800mm long. One even grabbed my snapper on the way up.
------------- The solution to any problem - work, money, love, whatever - is to go fishing - the worse the problem the longer the fishing trip should be. "I have a lot of very large problems" |
Posted By: S-P addict
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 9:22pm
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Naki man do you use actual Squid jigs and jags to catch them.
I never have any luck with them.
One night at Mayor Is i could see close to 50 of the swimming around and they wouldn't take the prawn style Jigs ------------- __!__ &nbs |
Posted By: rocko
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 9:34pm
Fresh slabs of mullet
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Posted By: Naki man
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 9:37pm
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S-P addict
I tried the jiggs myself and didn't have much luck, so I now use a 4/0 hook slid through the eye of a tripple with a flashing light and with a small amount of kahawai tied on the 4/0. Use a 1/4 once ball sinker and cast out, as soon as it hits the water stop the line and let it drift down and back toward you. You'll hook up just about every time. Don't reel in too fast. They can be quite tricky. make sure you wear gloves and long sleeves when you grab them and watch for the squrt
------------- The solution to any problem - work, money, love, whatever - is to go fishing - the worse the problem the longer the fishing trip should be. "I have a lot of very large problems" |
Posted By: Plow
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 11:39pm
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fresh piper for me everytime. Amazed Im the only one so far who has said piper. Fresh piper is our standard candy if we get onto them, live or dead. Kingis cant resist a live piper but we are talking snapper aren't we? ok, so most people have said live squid, Ive never tried it as a livie, and blow me we caught loads of the buggers last summer int he BoI and they tasted real good.
How do you rig a live squid? ------------- Legasea Legend, the rest of you should be too, $10 a month. |
Posted By: Plow
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 11:40pm
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one common word amongst nearly every suggestion has been "fresh"
fresh is best, so there we go Grant, live or fresh squid shaped plastics are the go. ------------- Legasea Legend, the rest of you should be too, $10 a month. |
Posted By: rocko
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2007 at 5:44am
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Where to get some fresh piper? the only place ive seen them,is late spring summer evenings around McLeods bay and reotahi,Urqhuarts Bay. schools of them
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Posted By: nuclear chicken
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2007 at 8:28pm
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Heard of a guy using burnt Octopus ( slightly burnt/cooked ) catching a 28lb snapper on it |
Posted By: rocko
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2007 at 8:32pm
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Probly some truth there too bro? Burnt Pukeko works for eels
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Posted By: Stefan
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2007 at 9:26pm
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Naki man what do you mean by a triple? and what do you use for a flashing light? want to catch me some squids...
Rocko try Cornwallis wharf for piper plenty there. I inject them with Stimulant oil and store em in milk bottles, works a treat
Stefan
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Posted By: Naki man
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2007 at 9:52pm
Stefan - a tripple hook like you have on a kahawai lure and a light as below - I use a green/yellow for Squid. They have 2 electrodes that stick out the back and the current is complete when immersed in water. dry them off and they stop flashing.
 ------------- The solution to any problem - work, money, love, whatever - is to go fishing - the worse the problem the longer the fishing trip should be. "I have a lot of very large problems" |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2007 at 10:27pm
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My fav is now 'ALL OF THE ABOVE'. P.s. I wanna come fishing with some of you guys. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: Stefan
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2007 at 12:28pm
| Wicked Nakiman what a good idea thanks, will put something together and have a go of one of the east coast jeties or rocks at night. |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2007 at 7:03pm
| While wading thru a forum members photos of "alot " of 20pd+ snapper a common bait was found.Sweep and mao mao baits, catch the mao mao and cube them up and burley hard.Then throw in a butterflied sweep on 6kg and wamo.The photos dont lie with alot of snapper around 11 to 13 kgs. (4 caught on 1 of the trips )Wont mention the name of the person, hope he sees this and owns up...PS hes a good mate of lethals ... |
Posted By: Ozzie_Fisho
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 1:48am
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G'day fella's. First post here. For us Aussies, small calamari(squid) first, then piper(we call them garfish), then Kahawai strip fillets(We call them Australian Salmon) and lastly the humble pilchard. Although most fresh baits such as barracouta, yellowtail scad and mullet also work. Whilst in Wellington last week(I'm from Melbourne but travel for work a little), I purchased a dvd called "How to catch snapper" made by the Fishing Show. It's not in production anymore, but I was able to get my hands on one. Looks like you kiwi's have a trick or two up your sleeve and I was quite impressed and intrigued by the different techniques and methods you guys use to catch snapper. Also noticed you guys are starting to use Berkley soft plastics(soft baits). These have been a craze down under for quite a few years. One thing I will be trying this year is snapper snatches. Not very popular at all over here, but these are gaining popularity. PS. Snapper are Victoria's favourite fish and during the months of October and November(that's when the snapper come into our bay to spawn), RED fever hits our town and we go absolutely mental!!! Not long to go now. I'm pumped... 
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 7:48am
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Good stuff Ozzie Fisho. It was the other way around here re: Snapper Snatchers and Soft Baits. Black Magic pre-rigs went ballistic - and are extremely effective. Gulp introduced Soft Baits recently and the craze expanded. Good and effective product also. I'm trying to organise 9" Squid Soft Baits at the mo' - soft and fluttery Yeah bring on Summer!
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 8:04am
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Hey Ozzie.... "I purchased a dvd called "How to catch snapper" made by the Fishing Show. It's not in production anymore," I can assure you it is still in production mate.... ....we've just sent out a bunch to the distributors.....glad you liked it....I'm not 100% but I think Paul Worsteling's Tackleworld Cranbourne will be/is stocking all of our DVD titles.on ya.....pitty about your World Cup loss thou, but you Aussie's are battlers so I'm sure the tears will dry soon enough.... |
Posted By: billpears
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 8:21am
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'pitty about your World Cup loss thou, but you Aussie's are battlers so I'm sure the tears will dry soon enough...." second that. good to see ya posting on here Ozzie |
Posted By: Ozzie_Fisho
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 2:58pm
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Thanks fella's. The DVD was purchased from boatbooks and that's what they told me. It took a while to get here. Looking forward to exchanging methods and techniques over time. Is snapper an all year round thing for you guys or is it seasonal? |
Posted By: S-P addict
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 4:34pm
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Naki man.
Where do you get a light like that?.
Does it come with the tubing and everything Like in The photo?
Ozzie fisho welcome to the forums.
You usually find snapper Somewhere All year around.
Just comes down to what your trying to catch them with.
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Posted By: Naki man
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 7:13pm
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S-P addict
I get those lights from hunting and fishing and yes they come as you see them in the picture, minus the trace and hook. On the packet they say to put them on your main line between your traces (as in a ledger) however when I first used them I was getting a lot of bites and no hook ups as the fish were attacking the light. Now I put them down on the hook and have a much better result. I use them for snapper as well. Gurnard like the pink ones.
Welcmoe to the forum Ossie fishoe
------------- The solution to any problem - work, money, love, whatever - is to go fishing - the worse the problem the longer the fishing trip should be. "I have a lot of very large problems" |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 7:56pm
| secrets out butterflyed maomaos and sweep number one baits for me live squid then a fresh slimey.photos dont lie.another good bait in summer flying fish then a whole mullet.natural baits with a cube berley |
Posted By: Ski
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 8:52pm
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heres a candy afluckin big one too!uploads/20070918_204721_bigsquid.jpg ------------- yamaha reliability senator stability shimano superiority the rest is up to the fish! |
Posted By: Phats
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 9:01pm
 ------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |