braid to nylon knots
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Topic: braid to nylon knots
Posted By: deacs
Subject: braid to nylon knots
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2006 at 6:04pm
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hey all,
I have recently purchased a soft plastic set with 10lb braid, i have searched the forums for a knot to join the braid to a top shot of nylon/other trace materials and can't seem to find one (i am sure this has been covered).
So if anyone has one that is easy or can be learnt easily, it would be much appreciated.
I am aware braid cuts through nylon easily when you have fish on so not sure if it has the same principal when tying them together? Or is it better to have the braid tied directly to the soft plastic?
Cheers
Brendon
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Posted By: Dohboy
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2006 at 8:18pm
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I had the same problem 2 weeks ago.(put up a post in the sp thread) I was told to have a 2m trace of around 20lb fluorocarbon and use double uniknots to join the 2 together. Hope this helps. ------------- www.acewash.co.nz |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2006 at 8:58pm
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yeah as dohboy said tie back to back uni knots to lock against each
other. Nice easy knot and no swivels required. However would recommend
practicing this knot (like any new knot) a few times as I lost a couple
of good fish to ****e uni to uni knots when i first started tying them. and flurocarbon IMO is the best bet for your trace line. I go a bit longer than 2m trace tho as mainly fish off the rocks. Trace is long enough for a few wraps around the reel and then can handle the traceline to get the fish in. Dont really wanna be handling the braid too much as like you say it cuts pretty easy ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: empty
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2006 at 9:47pm
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deacs this is a really good knot site http://www.animatedknots.com/ - http://www.animatedknots.com/ |
Posted By: empty
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2006 at 9:49pm
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i usually use the albright knot |
Posted By: -mAdfis HO-
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2006 at 11:59pm
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Yup double uni but I double my braid so it's a similar diameter to fluro and gives extra strength as well ------------- FiShInG rOcKs! ChEeRs -mAdfis HO- |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 7:06am
dam i always forget to mention that - tie a short double in the braid. Gives you two lines to tie that are a bit closer in daimeter to each other. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
-MADFIS HO- wrote:Posted By: deacs
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 8:58am
| Cheers guys i have been using the double uni knot to good effect with nylon to nylon. Will have to go and purchase some flurocarbon today! |
Posted By: qwerty
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 9:07am
| Hay Guys watch the aus in the berckly dvd & tie the five turn sergon knot it,s not bad cheers |
Posted By: Benk
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 9:34am
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Hi there, Learn a bimini, make them nice and short, about 1 m, that way you can wrap them back down themselves by yourself. Sounds a bit crazy but you can do it in a rough sea under 2 minutes with a bit of practice. As JK says, doubles are the way, and bimini's and plaits are the best, biminis are a bit easier to tie though, Then a 5 turn surgeon, or a uni to uni, or anything from the double line to the leader. Its near impossible to break a proper bimini with a same line class rated rod on the market today, except some of the heavy jigging rods and game rods. I use this for 80lb braid to 80lb nylon to 1kg nylon. With braid I do 70 turns, 80lb nylon about 30, 50lb nylon about 50 turns. Take the plunge and enjoy absolute faith in your knots. |
Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 12:51pm
This is the knot I like to use for joining braid and mono, damn good!! thanks to Lethal... and the two don't have to be a similar breaking strain either, like 14lb braid tied to say 50lb flouro trace......very handy knot.....
Just make sure you do exactly as shown in the bottom final part, this is crucial.... ------------- 
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Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 1:35pm
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And..... the way to tie the doubler is a good old fashioned figure 8 knot. I think Lethal also recommends 7 turns around the doubler when tying braid. I add a few more for good measure.
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 1:52pm
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That is a good knot shimma.
I use it for my mono to mono leaders but forgot about it for braid. Will have to give it a go ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 6:01pm
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JK, give the mono more turns than the 3 shown, like maybe 6-7. Also some fishos like to make the braid loop about 6" long and then use this as a single piece of braid and then make the loop, twice the grip, I guess for the mono to hang onto,and 'bite down', hope you can make sense of that!! cheers....Jim -------------
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Posted By: empty
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 7:32pm
| shimma thats a albright knot |
Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 8:19pm
This is the Albright, empty, easy to see the difference when scrolling between the two. Lethals knot isn't threaded thru at the start it just starts wrapping, over, then back down. This knot here, winds from the start up then back over itself, 12-13 times!! Lethals only has 3 twists,a different knot,tho similar in it's final look....Theres no name for Lethals one, as far as i know. YOU THERE LETHAL? Care to comment, -------------
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Posted By: empty
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 9:00pm
| i see said the blind man ,now you mention it i see the slight difference |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 9:01pm
| Is the Deckies knot a variation of that Shimma? |
Posted By: empty
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 9:05pm
jim just trid tieing it and its quick and easy ,might have to use that instead of the albright 
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Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 9:36pm
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Moocha, I'm not sure I know the 'Deckies' knot. Maybe someone else can answer? -------------
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Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2006 at 9:40pm
Hi empty, did you follow the 'doubling up' of the braid going by my explanation?  It's easy to get your fingers and thumbs in the way, and do it wrong, but that last part of going over and under is as I said, crucial.. Just as it is shown by Lethals diagram, is strong, its just that some like to use the two thicknesses.... cheers...Jim. PS: try that doubled up way, if you haven't, and see what you think.... PPS: Lethal swears by it, well if he's broken off, he just swears!!  -------------
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Posted By: -mAdfis HO-
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2006 at 11:30am
 ------------- FiShInG rOcKs! ChEeRs -mAdfis HO- |