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Ramco Patrol 680 ’Surprise Surprise’

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Topic: Ramco Patrol 680 ’Surprise Surprise’
Posted By: obald
Subject: Ramco Patrol 680 ’Surprise Surprise’
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 12:01pm

Seems to be all the go, so here are a few pics of my boat Surprise Surprise. Its a Ramco Patrol 680 (or should I say THE Ramco Patrol 680 because there aren't any others)

Its a pontoon boat with 25 degrees deadrise. Heavy, v. deep V so needs a big engine (NOT a good waterskiing boat) and so it has a Yamaha 200HPDI bolted to the transom.

This is the view I spend hours looking at.

And this is what it is supposed to look like back at the ramp - this is Houhora.

obald

 




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Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 1:23pm
Obald
on your many encounters with the deep do you stay out over night...is it a sleep aboard...or do you always come in?
What sort of set up is in the cockpit and how do you setup for livies?


Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 1:53pm

Wow i like that Obald, very tidy out fit, i wish i had painted mine now but at the time it was the cost, i noticed the trim tabs, it is a problem with tinnys and hard tops leaning into the wind, but they sure fix the problem and make for a comfortable ride.... well done Obald great looking boat........

Cheers Lethal



Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 5:45pm

Obald,

She sure is a nice rig. Looking over her I am impressed by the way you have set it up. Same she didnt do it at Hohoura this year but at least you did get to tag one.

Cheers

Bushie

 



Posted By: obald
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 7:00pm

Barrie, its very overnightable - 2 'V' berths that are comfortable for people even not built along the lines of garden gnomes like myself. Cockpit is shown in this pic with regular fishing mate Paul at the helm. The port side has a similar fiddled flat area in front of the windscreen that you can lay a full sized paper chart folded in half out on - great

Electronics are a Lowrance LCX-15MT sounder/plotter, a Sitex VHF, and a marine radio/casette. Also has a Anchorlift chain/rope windlass (thats the switch just to port of the wheel). Don't do much live baiting but I have a carry on tank that I can feed from one of two seawater pumps, one a through hull electric Jabsco ( I forget the gph) which powers the washdown hose and another 500gph bilge pump mounted on the starboard trim tab.

Lethal, you've got to sell the cat and get some trim tabs. Best things since lace up shoes for the reasons you mention and they also mean you can trim the boat for differing sea states, into sea, following sea etc. etc and also get the boat planing much quicker and at lower revs. With the amount of V I've got I shudder to think how the boat would handle without them. I had them fitted to a previous aluminium hull with only 17 degree deadrise and they transformed that as well. I reckon any boat over 6 metres would benefit from tabs.

obald



Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 7:34pm
Thanks obald
One day I will get a bigger boat so just really interested in how others set them up


Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 7:54pm

obald i just noticed the hull change, they have now got it running back to the pod what a great idea more stubility i would say, but they still left enough room to get your trim tabs underneath awesume, someones beening doing a bit of thinking for a change....

Cheers Lethal



Posted By: Peter da Squid
Date Posted: 04 May 2003 at 10:06pm

Hey ya Obald, sweet rig mate, just wandering what she weighs approx fully loaded and fuelled?. What do you pull her with ?. Love those grunty yammies..

ohhh, thers a bloody good race horse called Surprise Surprise..



Posted By: Naki
Date Posted: 05 May 2003 at 12:34pm

Obald, really nice boat and I really like how you have managed to tap into the local councils street lighting for your cockpit flood light. Must have a really long cable.

 

Didn't know Ramco made pontoon boats?

Cheers

 



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President of the "Pontoon Owners Club".
I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!!


Posted By: Kerren
Date Posted: 05 May 2003 at 1:34pm
next season, obald!!!!.....

you are justifyably a proud owner of that fine rig mate....like you told me recently, there isn't another trailer boat currently in production that you could "up grade" to that would be a suitable replacement.

A 36 or 40ft Blackie will be the only way to sooth your pain if someone else was to drive her out of your driveway mate!!!

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I am Kermit, Leader of Muppets Nov 05


Posted By: obald
Date Posted: 05 May 2003 at 5:30pm

Mr Squid P. Weighs about 2200kg all up so I have to have all the trailer brake drama - electric over hydraulic with adjustable in-cab sensor etc. Thought it was a load of BS at first but very glad it is there now. Brakes packed up slowly over this season and I have just virtually rebuilt the calipers - I was amazed at what I had slowly been deprived of. Tow it with a VX Landcruiser.

Mr Naki. Thats the sun and the council lets me have a bit for free on occasions. Ramco don't make a production pontoon boat. Bill Mackrell built this one for himself 2 seasons ago and I bought it off him direct. He had a 200 Optimax on it which I managed to persuade him to change to a brand new grey Japanese motor. There is a 6m version around owned by Peter Stubbs which I think spends the bulk of its time on Lake Taupo. Its a very unusual design. The deadrise is 25 degree which is carried way forward. This makes it the softest riding ally boat I've ever been in. BUT it is very slow 'out of the hole' and not easy to keep on the plane in a big following sea - but like all boats you get used to it. I reckon it would be undrivable without trim tabs (especially down hill) which you use all the time along with big variations in throttle to keep it riding right. I found this hard to learn but now don't think about it. Its also very stable at anchor like all pontoon boats.

Mr Kerren. This boat has to do me for another four seasons - then its BW time. Will need a brains trust of like minded people to set that one up - stick around. Meanwhile you're welcome on board anytime.

obald



Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 05 May 2003 at 6:16pm

obald

Did you ever solve that rigger issue ?

Bushie



Posted By: obald
Date Posted: 05 May 2003 at 7:07pm

Hi Bushie,

Yes and no, sort of almostish...

I'm going for 16ft Kilwell Longreach poles but they need three point mountings. As you know there are two styles of these. There's the style put out by Chatfield, Lee etc and there are the 'A' frame style - Pakula makes a small boat version of these. Now the season is drawing to a close there is no real rush. I'm going to have a good look around the Boat Show.

Another option is a bit of local S/S fabrication. There are 3 of us in the same market - Mr Rigby, John vdH and myself - so that might be the way to go. No hurry.

obald



Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 05 May 2003 at 11:24pm

obald i could ask my mate to copy the set i have on my boat if you like they are worth around 1200 a pair i think he might do them for half that, he's just finished off a S/S trailer for his 7-5mt boat, hes a perfectionist when it comes to S/S....... what do you think?

Cheers Lethal 



Posted By: Naki
Date Posted: 06 May 2003 at 8:07am
Obald, I was referring to the street light sticking out of your hardtop.

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President of the "Pontoon Owners Club".
I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!!



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