winching boat with electric drill
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Printed Date: 22 Mar 2025 at 4:14pm
Topic: winching boat with electric drill
Posted By: letsgetem
Subject: winching boat with electric drill
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 9:05am
I know some people winch their boat onto the trailer with a cordless drill. Ive tried usng my Ryobi 18v drill, and it cant do it. Torque is 50nm. My boat is relatively light, a Figlass Firestar thats 5.4m long.
Anyone with experience please advise.
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Posted By: DIY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 9:43am
I use a Makita 18v on the slow speed and use the high ratio side of the winch. My boat is a Seaforce 530 and it works great. When the boat gets near the end the drill does slow down but no problems.
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Posted By: Mc Tool
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 9:44am
You can buy a lectric trailer winch for 220 bucks ...... why would you ruin a $400+ drill trying to bodgy it ?
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 3:49pm
DIY - thanks, which model Makita - how much torque?
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Posted By: funandfunction
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 4:29pm
I've been using a 18V Milwaukee drill pull a 7.5m Southern Sports all the way ( ie first roller at the end of the trailer flush with the water and been doing it for the last 5 years or so. Those drills claim 130 Nm from memory. The trailer came with a 10:1 manual winch that I couldn't easily turn by the winch handle so replaced that with a different manual winch with a low gear of 15:1. I use 1: 1 to manually start and get the bow a metre or so up the trailer and then use the battery drill. Definitely needs the long clamp on handle that clamps around the housing to counteract the torque.....pushing down on that handle quite hard but the boat comes up fast......maybe 45 sec or so. I like the simplicity and the fact that if anything goes wrong , I still have the manual winch which I know works fine but just hard work. I have no faith in a $200 winch. A priced a Superwinch back at the time I decided to go with the battery drill and it was more like $1600 or $1700 and on top of that was heavy duty wiring back to the vehicle battery or the cost of a second battery mounted on the trailer , so not exactly cheap.
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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 5:59pm
Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?
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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 6:07pm
I have a7.2m fibreglass boat and use one all the time. I have Dewalt 996 (superceeded by the dcd999). Rips it up using the 5:1 no problem. And I do mean rips it up. Way quicker than my mate with his 12V 4wd winch. Probably 5 times quicker and I'm not joking. The lower end drills won't do it or will only do it on the high ratio. Whichever brand of drill you use, make sure it's the most powerful one they do.
Highly recommend if you use the right drill.
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Posted By: DIY
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 6:27pm
My drill is a Makita BHP 454, not sure how much torque it has but I’m a tradie so already had the drill.
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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 6:45pm
I have 2 elec winches mounted on my trailers - both around $200. 5.3m tinnie. One gets hauled off the beach on to the trailer - so has to lift up and on to the trailer. The other, depending on the tide has to haul my boat up a steep slope on to the trailer - steeper than any boat ramp I have seen. The first one, I have had for about 6 yrs now. No issues. The 2nd one I just fitted this yr. It did fail - turns out one end of the drive bit turns in a bush and the high load chewed the bush out. I fitted a couple of cheap bearings in place of the bush. Working fine. I am surprised the drills are strong enough - but given the right gearing and grunty drill, it is obviously do-able. There is an advantage , as stated - with the drill in that if it fails you still have the manual winch. However the 2nd boat which I haul up a steep slope was an absolute pig at times - I couldn't do it in a single go. Too steep, too old. This $200 winch does it. And the remote function on both winches is worth its weight in gold. I have wired them to the vehicle battery - simple plug in job when the trailer couples. For $200, I would not be without them. I pulled the 2nd one apart when it failed, looking for the cause. It is strongly constructed. The gears are taking a big load and no issue. Just a bush chewed out. The gear end has a solid bearing. The small bearings I used to replace the bush seem to be working fine. Alan
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 8:23pm
Pcj wrote:
Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?
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Yes he did. I would go with the current advice.
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Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2024 at 9:12pm
Mate uses cordless drill to wind his 6.7 Surtees and so easy. Pretty to watch. By hand it's a battle.
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 9:55am
Any more words of wisdom?
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Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 1:40pm
Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 1:43pm
The problem is the drill as others have said, not grunty enough. My makita has 150nm.
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 8:37pm
From what I can understand it’s all about the winch ratio, yes you can use a super grunty drill but I’ve seen some guys at the ramp using a grunty drill where the boat comes on way to fast and I wouldn’t want to get any hands of arms in the way.
Not a new idea the yanks have been doing it for years, check out the vids on YouTube.
This is a interesting read
https://community.deckee.com/topic/92269-boat-trailer-winch-gear-reducer-for-use-with-cordless-electric-drill/" rel="nofollow - https://community.deckee.com/topic/92269-boat-trailer-winch-gear-reducer-for-use-with-cordless-electric-drill/
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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 5:44am
Make sure you have a grunty drill. Go on, you need an excuse to get one anyways. You won't regret it.
Oh and be prepared for general admiration, most times you load the boat as the people next to you watch in awe at how easy loading you boat is.
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 8:49am
Ok. Im thinking of using a dewalt drill thats got 90nM torque. Should that be enough, for a 5.4m boat?
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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 5:02am
What model number? I can then check against drills I've used.
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 8:56am
Posted By: Mossy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 7:58am
smudge wrote:
Pcj wrote:
Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?
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Yes he did. I would go with the current advice. |
And whatever happened to Steps?
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 12:57pm
Mossy wrote:
smudge wrote:
Pcj wrote:
Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?
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Yes he did. I would go with the current advice. |
And whatever happened to Steps? |
Steps posted lots of very bad advice. He did have some good points. I know Steps personally. He is an over bearing know it all. I tried for far too long to be patient with him & took quite a bit of flack from others for doing so. Quite rightly too. I couldn't get him to stop posting nonsense or being abusive so I told him a few home truths & eventually he stopped and still has an active membership here and I suspect he still visits here from time to time.
His boat has been parked up for well over a year but his son has a nice flash Profile so maybe he fishes with him these days.
For those who are in the Steps camp, that's fine. I'm guessing you've never fished with him or seen some of his handiwork. He did give a mate some smoked fish a few months back and I have to say he did a great job of it. Some of his previous efforts were pretty rough though.
But anyway, I shouldn't turn this into a Steps bash but hey you did ask 
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Posted By: Mossy
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 8:21pm
Thanks Smudge, yes I agree with your comments.
Glad he's still alive and kicking though!
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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2024 at 6:19pm
Letsgetem, I've finally managed to catch up with what drill we used other then mine. It was a Dewalt 795. From what I can work out it has much lower ratings than the 805. It's an old model, so difficult to find accurate info now. It was a lower end unit when available.
It pulled up a 7.2m fibreglass boat easily. So the 805 should make light work for your boat. Use the lowest speed, so you don't load the motor and battery up. Always use a full battery.
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2025 at 8:55am
I have tried twice to winch the boat with my Dewalt drill (with 95nM toirque), and failed. It stalled when the full weight came on. Strange. Only thing can think, possibly it might be a higher geared winch.
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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2025 at 12:35pm
I suspect not all boats roll on the trailer equally - some are harder than others to manually winch. Also it would vary depending how much of the boat is floating, and the gradient of the ramp/trailer. There would be a few variables I suspect. Alan
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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2025 at 5:46am
What speed is your drill on? You need to run on the lowest. Also check that you have it set on drill and not one of the torque settings. I must have somehow bumped my drilling once moving from drill to 6 or so on the torque setting, it only wound it up halfway.
Mine pulls the boat up on the 5:1 one side, with a boat weighing over 2000kg. The 15:1 side makes very easy work of it.
What ratio are you using.
The other thing to do (if you don't already) is spray silicon on all the bushes of the winch. You will find that helps heaps. Particularly when you pull the rope out.
Oh and spray your trailer rollers with silicon too. Just be careful launching, because the boat will come off very fast.
I spray the rollers and winch bushes with silicon every 3 to 4 months. It helps a lot
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2025 at 8:48am
Thanks for that. I have the drill set on drill setting, not the variable clutches. And on the 1 low speed. Of the two winch gears, I used the lower one, ie the slowest.
The boat rolls off quickly so I assume the rollers are running freely. I will give them a spray.
I wonder about the ramp angle, the steeper it is would make it harder. But its a council ramp, deosnt seem very steep.
THere must be some reason, but Im stumped. It does get almost all the way up, so its still worth while.
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Posted By: Mc Tool
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2025 at 9:32am
Is your battery still OK ? if it had a dud cell it will probly seen OK untill you really lean on it .
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Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 9:24am
I have tried winching with my De Walt, 3 times. First two times, It didnt get all the way up, and stalled. Had to winch the rest by hand, thats feasible.
Last time, I lubricated the winch, and it came all the way. Great.
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 5:32pm
Watched one of the charter operators winch a 7 mtr tinny on with a dewalt drill at the Waikawa boat ramp last weekend. He even had 2 people in the boat and it cracked it up no problem.
He’s called the fish 4 T give him a call
http://thamescharters2022.co.nz/" rel="nofollow - http://thamescharters2022.co.nz/
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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2025 at 7:42am
I'm really glad you have worked it out. I felt quite bad my advise wasn't working.
FYI, I spray my trailer rollers and winch bushes every 3 or so months with silicon. That's probably why mine goes so well. Some times it's the small deals that you are doing makes the biggest difference and you don't even realize the importance of them.
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Posted By: salty69
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2025 at 6:07pm
I used a drill for a few years and always had to finish winding on manually. Switched to an Impact Driver- bingo.
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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2025 at 7:05am
It depends on the drill model. If you get the most powerful one in each brands range you will be fine. Buy a lower end model and it will struggle.
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2025 at 6:42pm
Mossy wrote:
smudge wrote:
Pcj wrote:
Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?
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Yes he did. I would go with the current advice. |
And whatever happened to Steps? |
Mossy I don't like bagging people and I know Steps had his fans here. I know Keith personally and because of that I did my best to look after him. He genuinely believes what he posted & he is still around and ok. Unfortunately he could get carried away in the moment and would often post up stuff that he thought was 100% on the money but unfortunately didn't quite match the reality. I can privately give some details if you want them but I'm not going to do so here.
For a few years I took a lot of flack from others who knew his 'facts' weren't quite right and I tried so many times to help him but I got nowhere. In the end I decided I had to be cruel to be kind and gave him both barrels in person (and on here). I haven't seen him since but I know others who are still in touch with him.
Some of his advice was so bizarre and unfortunately people new to the game would believe his every word.
He wasn't a complete bunny but he didn't have anywhere near the expertise he thought he had.
Bottom line I guess is we all only know what we know, and it is important to remember that.
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