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Bluenose vs Bass

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Printed Date: 14 Apr 2024 at 2:15pm


Topic: Bluenose vs Bass
Posted By: corosanta
Subject: Bluenose vs Bass
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 12:10pm
So I guess this question has been put forward before, but would still like to hear what you people like best; Bluenose or Bass.

I'm a Bluenose fan myself simply because of it's flavour and ease of skinning.


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Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 12:41pm
For me a small bass refrigerated for few days before cutting.
Rich n buttery
Yum


Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 1:23pm
Yesterday I was given some fresh Gemfish that went down well.
Think I'd prefer that to either of the other two..
Having said that, anyone of the three ahead of snapper.


Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 2:40pm
I've just had a lovely snapper fillet with skin on for lunch. I wonder if we lose some of the flavour and certainly texture when we take the skin off our fillets. Agree though, those deepwater fish can be tasty. 


Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 5:08pm
Agree. Skin on. Skin on is much tastier,crisper, and much of the food value in fish is in and just under the skin. Skin also helps prevent fillet from drying out when cooking.Little bit of effort scaling fish but well worth it. 
And tonight fresh snapper fillet ,skin on. Dusted with spelt flour,pan fried in butter.
Grew up with tasty deep water fish out in cook strait. Mainly puka, terakihi to 8lb,blue cod to 10 lb. But dont ever recall seeing bluenose.


Posted By: terrafish
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 5:42pm
Bluenose all the way for me, just something about that meaty, tender, tasty texture. Altho bass and puka are not far behind. The only other fish that beats them for me is found a whole lot closer to shore and ankle deep water, there is just something special about flounder for breakfast!


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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 5:49pm
BN for me.
Having said that - been dining out on gemfish last few days - because I didn't get any BN.
But it is a decent 2nd prize. Rolled in flour, panfried in butter.
not to mention smoked - awesome.
Alan


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Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 7:46pm
Bluenose for me too. But getting them out from my way is getting tough and long way to go. My close (ish) spot has been cleaned out. 


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 7:58pm
I have to go 40k for mine. A few days ago, and a few times previous I have been scouting an area half way. Edge of a trench. Nothing but Gems so far. Last time - HEAPS of sign, but no BN or puka. I could fill my bin with Gems in a couple of hrs.
Alan



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Posted By: waynorth
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

  been dining out on gemfish last few days...But it is a decent 2nd prize. Rolled in flour, panfried in butter. Not to mention smoked - awesome.
Alan

Superb fish, but perhaps better suited to curries and stir fries. BN firmer like dorado - also highly rated. Hard to beat a puka, though the humble snapper comes close. Or cod, or pink maomao, or JD, or...

If you get a smaller one treat it like a flounder. Sounds from above that you already may.


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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 8:12pm
Originally posted by waynorth waynorth wrote:

Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

  been dining out on gemfish last few days...But it is a decent 2nd prize. Rolled in flour, panfried in butter. Not to mention smoked - awesome.
Alan

Superb fish, but perhaps better suited to curries and stir fries. BN firmer like dorado - also highly rated. Hard to beat a puka, though the humble snapper comes close. Or cod, or pink maomao, or JD, or...

If you get a smaller one treat it like a flounder. Sounds from above that you already may.
maomao pink or blue,now youre talking,have their own special spiciness, snapper bland,no wonder restuarants cover it in sauceLOL

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Posted By: waynorth
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 8:28pm
Never been fussed with blueys, but a mate caught a big snapper on a sweep when there was nothing else. A hungry scavenger will eat anything. Bought fish aren't there for us, but they are convenient.

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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 8:47pm
I think most white fish is bland in taste, but some have nicer textures than others. As mentioned, crispy skin adds a lot of flavour. In general, strongly flavoured fish doesn't suit the European palate.


Posted By: waynorth
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 8:59pm
Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

I think most white fish is bland in taste, but some have nicer textures than others. As mentioned, crispy skin adds a lot of flavour. In general, strongly flavoured fish doesn't suit the European palate.

Kippers for breakfast then MB. Wink I'd rather eat porridge. 


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by waynorth waynorth wrote:

Kippers for breakfast then MB. Wink I'd rather eat porridge. 

https://www.saltwaterseafoods.co.nz/shop/p/kippers-butter


Posted By: Fish Addict
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2024 at 12:23am
I fondly recall cooking and eating cutlets of both puka and bass when I resided in NZ.  I never really knew much about bluenose at the time.  All three species are caught wide off Perth but not in the same numbers compared to NZ waters.
I found bluenose rather difficult to cook, however I think that was as a result of me cutting the pieces too thick which resulted in the outside over cooking and becoming chewy.
Alan L you are fortunate, my bluenose (known as blue-eye trevalla over here) area was 67kms from the ramp.

Waynorth - kippers, perhaps not to everybody's taste.  20+ years ago when I was working in outback WA the catering contractor feeding the 2,000+ construction workers would on occasions serve kippers as a breakfast option.  I'd take a few as part of my crib lunch.  A quick zap to heat in the microwave and into a fresh bread sandwich, magic.


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2024 at 7:52am
Its getting a bit off the BN/Bass topic - but I do rate gurnard. And I don't have to go 40k for them.
Alan


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 9:04am
Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

I found bluenose rather difficult to cook, however I think that was as a result of me cutting the pieces too thick which resulted in the outside over cooking and becoming chewy.

I think this is a common problem that people have with larger fish and somewhat explains why big snapper have a reputation for poor eating. Once upon a time, I expected good results from tossing a great big thick fillet in a pan. Inevitably, it was underwhelming, either overcooked on the outside or undercooked on the inside. These days, I cut big fillets across the grain to the desired thickness.


Posted By: corosanta
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 9:47am
Yeap, in this case sixe does matter. It is the main reason fish 'n' chip shops sell batter big fish in aroud 100g pieces.

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Posted By: Mc Tool
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 5:11pm
I have never caught  any wreak fish , would rather have blue cod than snapper , rather have a flounder than blue cod ..... and John dory  is king for me . More about  the fact that I get FA j dory  than whether its tastier than the others .The ability to cook it properly makes more difference than  variances in different breeds of fish tastiness.
I must try the skin on  thing .


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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 5:49pm
JD is definitely up there. I get FA too.
But always super glad to snag one.
Alan


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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

Its getting a bit off the BN/Bass topic - but I do rate gurnard. And I don't have to go 40k for them.
Alan

Two words - Grunter Hunter. Be good to catch up again


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Posted By: waynorth
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 9:24pm
Originally posted by Mc Tool Mc Tool wrote:

.... and John dory  is king for me . More about  the fact that I get FA j dory  than whether its tastier than the others  

I must try the skin on  thing .

If you get a chance MT check out Nicky Sinden. Her name may have changed, but she used to have a fishing show. A friend developed a JD rig for her that I used myself - it worked well. A sort of ledger rig with a sinker on the bottom and a sliding trace on the top half of the leader. Rat kings loved it, snapper were rather partial too, but it picked up a few JD's as well. Lovely fish

And yes to skin on. The scales are tiny, no scaling needed. Score the skin deeply before frying skin down, to avoid curling. The best solution to butter is more butter.


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by waynorth waynorth wrote:

A friend developed a JD rig for her that I used myself - it worked well. A sort of ledger rig with a sinker on the bottom and a sliding trace on the top half of the leader. 

Found it!



Posted By: waynorth
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 10:41pm
That's it MB

My leader to the sinker was longer to avoid the weeds but otherwise got it in one. Easy but effective - good luck.


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Posted By: Reel Deal
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2024 at 6:39am
Just vacuum packed a pile of Taupo trout over night cold smoked yesterday. Tasted so good I ate 2 while doing the vacuum packing. 

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Posted By: Mc Tool
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2024 at 7:13am
Originally posted by waynorth waynorth wrote:


If you get a chance MT check out Nicky Sinden.
 Sorry waynorth  , not a fan of hers  , way to much ridiculous fake laughing , squealing  and nail polish shots . . Im not saying she doesn't know her stuff , and the rig certainly looks good but Im  more Fishing and Adventure  .Smile


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2024 at 7:26am
Originally posted by Reel Deal Reel Deal wrote:

Just vacuum packed a pile of Taupo trout over night cold smoked yesterday. Tasted so good I ate 2 while doing the vacuum packing. 

I've just started cold smoking trout. Wow! I actually like eating trout now.

Very off topic LOL


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2024 at 10:22am
Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

Its getting a bit off the BN/Bass topic - but I do rate gurnard. And I don't have to go 40k for them.
Alan

Two words - Grunter Hunter. Be good to catch up again

Thats waay more than 40k.
Not sure what I am doing then - may not be in the country. Dunno. Will keep it in mind.
Alan


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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2024 at 10:26am
Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Originally posted by Reel Deal Reel Deal wrote:

Just vacuum packed a pile of Taupo trout over night cold smoked yesterday. Tasted so good I ate 2 while doing the vacuum packing. 

I've just started cold smoking trout. Wow! I actually like eating trout now.

Very off topic LOL
Maybe youi guys could share some cold smoke techniques. It is a bit trickier than hot smoke.
Alan


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2024 at 10:53am
As usual, one solution is to spend money 🙄

I bought a Smokai cold smoke generator which is brilliant. You can attach it to almost any container including a cardboard box.

1. Cure fillets for 24 hours in salt (50%) and white sugar (50%).

2. Rinse fillets, dry with paper towel and air dry in fridge for 3 hours.

3. Cold smoke trout for 6 hours.

4. Wrap fillets in cling film and leave in fridge
overnight.

5. Remove pin bones and slice thinly.



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