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Topic: Advice on buying microjigging combo
Posted By: kiwi_hunter678
Subject: Advice on buying microjigging combo
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2024 at 1:09pm
Looking to buy a rod and reel for microjigging in the harbour but a bit stumped on what to buy. Probably not looking to spend and more than $200 for both.

Any recommendations appreciated.



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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2024 at 1:59pm
Are you planning to cast the microjigs, or drop them straight down from a boat? If casting, then any softbaiting outfit that can cast up to 28g would be fine.


Posted By: kiwi_hunter678
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2024 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Are you planning to cast the microjigs, or drop them straight down from a boat? If casting, then any softbaiting outfit that can cast up to 28g would be fine.

Yeah will be casting, all right thanks for the advice.


Posted By: kiwi_hunter678
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2024 at 4:24pm
Why do you say 28g? All the micro jigs are pretty much above 28g


Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2024 at 6:02pm
You can get microjigs down to 10g and even lighter. 28/30g or less would suit most soft bait rods, heavier than that and you're in to the realms of more specialist rods which come at a price. Heavier rods are less sensitive and less fun to use. Also, not sure why you'd want heavier weights in shallow water. You can cast 28g jigs a mile with nicely balanced gear.


Posted By: kiwi_hunter678
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2024 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

You can get microjigs down to 10g and even lighter. 28/30g or less would suit most soft bait rods, heavier than that and you're in to the realms of more specialist rods which come at a price. Heavier rods are less sensitive and less fun to use. Also, not sure why you'd want heavier weights in shallow water. You can cast 28g jigs a mile with nicely balanced gear.

Thanks mate I appreciate the advice, as you can tell I am a complete jigging noob and have only used smelly bait in the past.

I was thinking of buying this setup:  https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/slow-micro-jigging-combos/penn-pursuit-iii-3000-spinning-softbait-combo-7ft-3-6kg-2pc" rel="nofollow - https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/slow-micro-jigging-combos/penn-pursuit-iii-3000-spinning-softbait-combo-7ft-3-6kg-2pc

And loading it with 6kg/15lb braid. Finding it a bit tricky to find 300m of braid thats 15lb on marine deals.

Cheers


Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 8:05am
Outfit looks reasonable for the price. Sharp intake of breath for the cost of braid. There is cheaper out there, just an example. 
 
https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/shimano-kairiki-sx8-braid-mantis-green-300m" rel="nofollow - https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/shimano-kairiki-sx8-braid-mantis-green-300m


Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 8:35am
Hi, i basically only micro jig now, 20 and 30gms depending on depth 20 for 20m and below and 30gm up to 40m
I use kaveman cj jigs https://kavemantackle.co.nz/product/micro-cj-orange/ they are the ducks nuts cheep and just work!.
Micro jig rods aren't readily available in nz and true ones are 6ft I have 5 different sets now most from obscure Japanese brands, most readily available are the storm gomoku roads from Australia https://rapala.com.au/product/storm-main-cat/rods-storm/gomoku-gen-1-rods/
Pair it with a small 2500 size reel 10lb braid with an fg knot to 20lb leader, don't use genie clips!!
Cast forwards into your drift and let it hit the bottom, bump it up and wind it towards you let it sink and repeat.
You've got to be close to the bottom to catch, jigging up to 4ft and sinking it back down.
But yeah heaps of fun and you will be surprised at what you can hook and land




Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 8:38am


Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 8:40am
Im deeply passionate about this style of fishing and Happy to talk further or go out with you and pass on knowledge.


Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 10:01am
Good advice from spin king.


Posted By: BananaBoat
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 10:19am
Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Sharp intake of breath for the cost of braid. There is cheaper out there

Yup, it comes from AliExpress
For the last 3.5yrs, Ive been using the Kastking brand of braid from AliExpress
My livebait, softbait, micro & slow jig reels are all spooled with that cheap shet from Kastking, at the time was 1000m of 20lb for 26 bucks landed in NZ
I haven't caught a decent fish to put the braid to a real test but it does the job fine
There are plenty of reviews online in the many forums like this one who have tested these braids on decent fish & I haven't read a negative review of the above brand

Having said that, I also bought a Kastking Valiant 3000 spin reel.
Again just a cheapie throw away reel when its dead, 70 bucks landed
Silky smooth as my Shimano Sustain, used on my kayak, doesn't get much of the wash down treatment after a sesh & still going strong.... 70 bucks vs 380 ??    just saying eh


Posted By: kiwi_hunter678
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 10:52am
Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

Im deeply passionate about this style of fishing and Happy to talk further or go out with you and pass on knowledge.

Thanks mate, where are you located? I am in Whangarei.


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 11:33am
The Penn set your looking at for the money will get you started, it’s similar to a setup my mate had a Christmas when I took him micro jigging for the first time and he caught a few fish on it no problems. I only thing I find with most soft bait rods, they can be a bit stiff to work the jig. I prefer small subtle movements of the jig while it’s sitting on the sand. So go for a lighter rod around 4 to 6 kg.

Like all fishing gear you’ll be surprised what you can get if you spend a little more, shimano have some great setups around the $300 mark. Once you get into micro jigging it doesn’t take long until your looking for a purpose designed setup.

I fish with a 8.2 foot 2 to 4 kg rod at the moment given to me by my mate Rocks on here, great little rod so it comes down to a bit of personal preference.

Don’t be too concerned about filling the reel up with braid, I have the following braid on all of my setups cause I like the way it casts but again that’s personal preference. I used 6 kg mono as backing on my reel first I think I got about 100 metres on first before I put the braid on.

https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/berkley-fireline-ultra-8-braid-flame-green-150m-14lb" rel="nofollow - https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/berkley-fireline-ultra-8-braid-flame-green-150m-14lb

Great way to fish and micro jigs and be fished in many different ways, as above cast forwards or out the side and slowly wound in slowly or dragged behind the boat. My favourite way is jigged slowly straight up and down that’s what was doing the damage down in the firth over Christmas.

Good luck


Posted By: kiwi_hunter678
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

The Penn set your looking at for the money will get you started, it’s similar to a setup my mate had a Christmas when I took him micro jigging for the first time and he caught a few fish on it no problems. I only thing I find with most soft bait rods, they can be a bit stiff to work the jig. I prefer small subtle movements of the jig while it’s sitting on the sand. So go for a lighter rod around 4 to 6 kg.

Like all fishing gear you’ll be surprised what you can get if you spend a little more, shimano have some great setups around the $300 mark. Once you get into micro jigging it doesn’t take long until your looking for a purpose designed setup.

I fish with a 8.2 foot 2 to 4 kg rod at the moment given to me by my mate Rocks on here, great little rod so it comes down to a bit of personal preference.

Don’t be too concerned about filling the reel up with braid, I have the following braid on all of my setups cause I like the way it casts but again that’s personal preference. I used 6 kg mono as backing on my reel first I think I got about 100 metres on first before I put the braid on.

https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/berkley-fireline-ultra-8-braid-flame-green-150m-14lb" rel="nofollow - https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/berkley-fireline-ultra-8-braid-flame-green-150m-14lb

Great way to fish and micro jigs and be fished in many different ways, as above cast forwards or out the side and slowly wound in slowly or dragged behind the boat. My favourite way is jigged slowly straight up and down that’s what was doing the damage down in the firth over Christmas.

Good luck

Wow a 2 to 4kg rod, I feel like that would snap if you hooked a kingi or a decent snapper?


Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 12:43pm
Originally posted by kiwi_hunter678 kiwi_hunter678 wrote:

Wow a 2 to 4kg rod, I feel like that would snap if you hooked a kingi or a decent snapper?

No, not if everything is balanced (i.e. rod, reel, line) and you have your reel drag set appropriately. It sounds daunting, but it can be done. My go-to setup is 3-5kg, but the 2-4kg is a lot of fun. The only time I've run in to trouble is in snaggy areas where I just don't have enough leverage to stop the fish before they run in to rocks or weed. Over sand and it's a lot of fun!


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by kiwi_hunter678 kiwi_hunter678 wrote:

Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

The Penn set your looking at for the money will get you started, it’s similar to a setup my mate had a Christmas when I took him micro jigging for the first time and he caught a few fish on it no problems. I only thing I find with most soft bait rods, they can be a bit stiff to work the jig. I prefer small subtle movements of the jig while it’s sitting on the sand. So go for a lighter rod around 4 to 6 kg.

Like all fishing gear you’ll be surprised what you can get if you spend a little more, shimano have some great setups around the $300 mark. Once you get into micro jigging it doesn’t take long until your looking for a purpose designed setup.

I fish with a 8.2 foot 2 to 4 kg rod at the moment given to me by my mate Rocks on here, great little rod so it comes down to a bit of personal preference.

Don’t be too concerned about filling the reel up with braid, I have the following braid on all of my setups cause I like the way it casts but again that’s personal preference. I used 6 kg mono as backing on my reel first I think I got about 100 metres on first before I put the braid on.

https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/berkley-fireline-ultra-8-braid-flame-green-150m-14lb" rel="nofollow - https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/berkley-fireline-ultra-8-braid-flame-green-150m-14lb

Great way to fish and micro jigs and be fished in many different ways, as above cast forwards or out the side and slowly wound in slowly or dragged behind the boat. My favourite way is jigged slowly straight up and down that’s what was doing the damage down in the firth over Christmas.

Good luck


Wow a 2 to 4kg rod, I feel like that would snap if you hooked a kingi or a decent snapper?
I like to fish light micros in shallow water from 7 grams in 5 feet. I’ve got a 3000 reel on it so I run a lighter drag with no problems.

If you want to look at a shorter rod, this could be a good setup

https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/slow-micro-jigging-combos/shimano-sienna-4000-fg-backbone-coltsniper-microjig-combo-6ft-3in-6-15lb-1pc


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2024 at 11:55am
I can't think of another lure method where recommended rods vary so much. Two very accomplished fishos on here are using rods that are 2 feet different in length.
I struggle to get my head around that, particularly as they are both in spin configurations, but I guess one of you drops more vertically, rather than casting well away from the boat. 

Anyway, I had a go at jigging recently - in about 20m - and used my softbait rod with a pink/silver BlueBlue Searide I bought years ago when inspired to try microjigging (but then didn't really get around to it!). I'm guessing the Searide shape was the inspiration for the Kaveman CJ, because the shape is very similar. The hooks on the BlueBlue are a bit smaller. 
I've got a couple of CJs but decided to try the BlueBlue - if not now, when?

As soon as it hit the bottom, and given one lift and free drop, hook up. No fish of any size, but anywhere I could see sign, it was a very fast hook up. Those little assist hooks are deadly sharp. Mind you, Gulp Squid Vicious was similar success rate, with the advantage to the jigs in terms of longevity. 

I can see a lot of sense in using the micro set up in some situations. In the late 80s I used silver locally made 'Branks' jigs tied to mono and fibreglass rods in the Motuihe Channel and caught some nice trevs and snaps. That initial snapper jig craze died off, though. SO much better using braid and graphite rods!


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2024 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

I can't think of another lure method where recommended rods vary so much. Two very accomplished fishos on here are using rods that are 2 feet different in length.
I struggle to get my head around that, particularly as they are both in spin configurations, but I guess one of you drops more vertically, rather than casting well away from the boat. 

Anyway, I had a go at jigging recently - in about 20m - and used my softbait rod with a pink/silver BlueBlue Searide I bought years ago when inspired to try microjigging (but then didn't really get around to it!). I'm guessing the Searide shape was the inspiration for the Kaveman CJ, because the shape is very similar. The hooks on the BlueBlue are a bit smaller. 
I've got a couple of CJs but decided to try the BlueBlue - if not now, when?

As soon as it hit the bottom, and given one lift and free drop, hook up. No fish of any size, but anywhere I could see sign, it was a very fast hook up. Those little assist hooks are deadly sharp. Mind you, Gulp Squid Vicious was similar success rate, with the advantage to the jigs in terms of longevity. 

I can see a lot of sense in using the micro set up in some situations. In the late 80s I used silver locally made 'Branks' jigs tied to mono and fibreglass rods in the Motuihe Channel and caught some nice trevs and snaps. That initial snapper jig craze died off, though. SO much better using braid and graphite rods!
I have a nice little 6.6 mtr 6kg jig rod, but I’ve always liked super light jigs and softbaits. So when Rocks gave the 2 to 4 kg energy concepts rod which is designed as a lure fishing rod I just love fishing with it.

I think it’s a personal thing, micro jigs do work the best fished vertical when you’re in 20 mtrs of water, but I fish a lot of super lightweight jigs in the firth 7g in 4 metres so you have to cast them away from the boat noise and to cast a 7g jig you need the right rod.


Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 6:56am
Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

I have a nice little 6.6 mtr 6kg jig rod, but I’ve always liked super light jigs and softbaits


Holy crap.....that's one helluva long rod for micro jigging.

You could try Tenkara jigging ..... might start a new trend!Clown


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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2024 at 8:08am
Originally posted by kiwi_hunter678 kiwi_hunter678 wrote:

Why do you say 28g? All the micro jigs are pretty much above 28g

micro means small so true micro jigs normally from 10-30g max, i do know some fisherman call jigs up to 60g micro.




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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2024 at 8:20am
Originally posted by Jaapie Jaapie wrote:

Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

I have a nice little 6.6 mtr 6kg jig rod, but I’ve always liked super light jigs and softbaits


Holy crap.....that's one helluva long rod for micro jigging.

You could try Tenkara jigging ..... might start a new trend!Clown


Hi Kev. My got to micro rod when i first started was a Synit 8'6", absolute beauty of a rod, rated around 3-5kg, caught snapper to 9kg with it and heaps of kingies to 1m without feeling under gunned
Since sold that rod as i bought out my own range of rods so thought it only right that i use my own design. Best kingy was 20kg caught on a 30g Hornet jig in 50m( it did take 45min)
Anyways, a hell of a lot of fun. Longer rods are normally used overseas because micro jigs were invented for shore casting and most jig have lots of action and weighted to flutter so to not get snagged on the bottom.
My rods are 8' 2".btw and you can also use these rods for softbaiting



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