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King Fish Farm

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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: The Briny Bar
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Printed Date: 23 Feb 2024 at 11:53pm


Topic: King Fish Farm
Posted By: Pcj
Subject: King Fish Farm
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2023 at 12:28pm
Can only be good for the fishery. Surely it will attract species like the mussel farms do??

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/hauraki-gulf-kingfish-farm-clears-final-regulatory-hurdle" rel="nofollow - https://www.newsroom.co.nz/hauraki-gulf-kingfish-farm-clears-final-regulatory-hurdle

The company behind the farm, Pare Hauraki Kaimoana, is owned by the Hauraki Māori Trust Board, representing the interests of 12 local iwi.

Some estimates for the facility put annual production levels as high as 8000 tonnes of kingfish, a highly prized sporting and eating fish that is consumed raw or cooked.

Farmed kingfish typically has slightly different attributes to wild-caught, with a higher fat content and less of a mineral taste.

The project is expected to create 452 full-time jobs and have an economic benefit of $135 million a year.



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Posted By: Phantom Menace
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 9:17am
Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

Can only be good for the fishery. Surely it will attract species like the mussel farms do??

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/hauraki-gulf-kingfish-farm-clears-final-regulatory-hurdle" rel="nofollow - https://www.newsroom.co.nz/hauraki-gulf-kingfish-farm-clears-final-regulatory-hurdle


Fish farms are different to mussel farms.  The mussels filter feed (cleaning the water as they do it) and create a food source for the snapper etc. while a kingfish farm has to be fed and the waste dropping to the seabed beneath the pens could have a detrimental effect.  Also the concentration of fish could create a source of infection should something get into the penned population.

I am not against the fish farm but am reserving judgement until info on the broader impacts are released (which was out of scope of the decision in the article).



Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 9:43am
I imagine that a few fingerlings will escape so can only be good.Wonder if snapper farming will be next??
Surely it  will attract other species to the pens to clean up waste?
I can see this only as a good move,more farming of fish then might be less need for commercial boats?
Way of the future I hope.

It did note risks of invasive species would already exist because of other marine farms in the area.

A relatively fast-growing fish, it is farmed to some degree in other countries, including Australia, Europe and the United States, and is most successfully farmed in Japan.


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 12:15pm
It's the food source that concerns me about fish farms.


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 1:44pm
Salmon farming has plenty of negative side effects on the environment. Pollution from salmon farms caused by the chemical treatments given to the fish, excess feed and large quantities of feces. This pollutes the ocean floor reducing oxygen and reducing another types of sea life living under and around the farms.

The gulf is already under pressure with low food stocks causing white filets on snapper. It will be interesting to see how it evolves and what the side effects to the gulf are.


Posted By: Tonto2
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 3:44pm
Are they going to feed them on fish taken from the area and made into pellets? 452 jobs???? Really??? Any government money going into this? Excuse my sceptical approach but seen this over and over again with Maori. Typically will fail and all the money will be gone. Just going on past history, I don't believe it is financially viable or eco friendly. Just my opinion though

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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 5:21pm
Interesting

“Environmental groups such as Protect Our Gulf and Forest & Bird were opposed on the grounds the food used in intensive fish farming and the waste produced could risk further damaging the already strained area of the Hauraki Gulf.”


Posted By: FISHBYFLY
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 3:35pm
yeah,
plenty of documentation of fishfarming around.
basicclly something like 4x[in weight] as much food needed.
ie 4 tonnes of pillys to make 1 tonne kingy.,

the sensible argument is why not just eat the Pillys?,
pretty sure thats why the Paerengarenga factory failed.
But, what can ya do,
theres some crazy ass **** going on,
lot of stuff that just doesnt make sense,
 


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 4:08pm
It doesn't make any sense when everyone else is falling over themselves to protect the Gulf.


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 6:07pm
Only four times as much food needed as the return in kingfish. That's probably a big improvement on how many pillies recreational fisherman use to catch a kilo of snapper fillets. FWIW my take on the state of the Hauraki Gulf has a lot to do with the commercial pilchard fishery that boomed in the 80's and continued to the point where the pilchards w buy for bait aren't caught in NZ for a very good reason - we have used them all for bait.

How many commercial pilchard boats operate out of Leigh these days? There used to be a few.

Of course I have no grumbles if they used ground up spiny dogfish to feed the kings. I could send them plenty.


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Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 8:41pm
I've never used a single pilchard to catch a snapper* LOL




*Full disclosure. While that statement is true, I occasionally take my son and his mates fishing and we used salted mackerel as bait. 


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 9:18pm
"Of course I have no grumbles if they used ground up spiny dogfish to feed the kings. I could send them plenty."

Smudge, if you are sending some, I could post you plenty from HB. Even caught one in Vtu today at 400m.
Please send me your POB.
Alan


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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2023 at 4:27am
Kingfish /snapper/salmon/mussel farming etc Maybe a bit of pollution from feed/feaces but having the kingfish farm next to a mussel industry. The mussels will help clarify the water.The pens are in tidal streams so should help disperse waste and encourage other species to forage?
Now what do the knockers want continual trawling and wasting non quota species or dumping undersize stock.Continual seabed damage. Funny havent read anything from Legasea knocking the idea so must be all good.


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