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Best short rigger lure from trailer boat?

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Topic: Best short rigger lure from trailer boat?
Posted By: shaneg
Subject: Best short rigger lure from trailer boat?
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2023 at 10:27pm
Love to hear your opinions boys?. Lost last black magic stripey 2, were my favourite this year, lumo colours all gone. Have had success on aloha ezi nut, but Mahi ate nice silver wings off one side this year. What’s  your call… I like lumos cause I  run a phantom blue pink orange on other side on LR which ain’t going anywhere and have a spare.

But choosing new lure SR is doing my head in. Mainly after stripeys and yfts and soft 14 ft killwell one piece riggers fishing 24 and 37kg. Disappointed with new black magic lumo super stripey xc .. but have now put on lighter trace … but nah action still ain’t right.

But tell us what you think is best…what I know is hard to buy nicer lumo in a proper shop these days … seen few options online. Doesn’t have to be lumo… but usually run one there.



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Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2023 at 3:14am
I have had success with the black bart rpp in lumo and mini 1656 slant mini in lumo, acutely lost the 1656 to a stripy put out the rpp and smashed one on that.

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Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2023 at 6:19am
RG2 lumo?


Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2023 at 6:35am
I like the RG2. Seems very easy to get to swim.


Posted By: Fish Addict
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2023 at 7:18pm
Pakula Medium Sprocket - probably better known as a LR lure but I've run them on the SR with success.


Posted By: White snake
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2023 at 11:13pm
Bonze d shackle in karma (lumo)


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2023 at 7:29pm
Good recommendations thanks, been looking at RG2 and while have the d shackle in black purple sometimes on long corner, would also consider in lumo for SR.
 Probably more likely go Red Gill 2 though in a lumo, as presently don’t have any redgills in spread. Have tried an old rg1 in scad which while came highly recommended never really produced on LR. And now sits in lure box with many others that didn’t work.Probably few gems in there for other boats … but I am a possessive lure collector. Hard for even Captain Simon/ Sambosi to trade me out of the better ones even when saturates me with bourbon odd night at tuts.
Although he did succeed once I am probably still ahead when taking in account cost of bourbon.Smile And in recent years actively encourage him to keep trying that cunning move.


Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2023 at 9:08pm
Don’t think you’d regret the RG 2 lumo


Posted By: Fish Addict
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2023 at 10:42pm
Shane - Pakula Phantom on LR?


Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2023 at 6:38am
I have a have D Shackle in evil. I'll happily swap for the RG1. Wouldn't take much to reskirt in Lumo.


Posted By: wanabe
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2023 at 10:37am
500 lures gives you a good choice.


Posted By: Sambosi
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2023 at 5:18pm
5.5 in black and purple....I have a well used one for sale, $200 and its yours.  Just needs new skirts as current ones shredded due to the dozens of marlin that have tried to eat it.

It can be your 501st lure


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2023 at 10:10pm
Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

Shane - Pakula Phantom on LR?
Yep really good lure… crazy good on long rigger runs amazing was thinking putting on both riggers but want something with more splash on SR.
Keep that  black purple Zuker Simon, dumb selling that at even $200 they are probably best long corner ever made.  But I am not paying you for that unless laying bottle or two bottles of bourbon down, and me getting through one and we’ll into the second. And you shud not encourage me to drink more… I am doing dry July and possibly developing a new perspective on the addictive substance that alcohol is.


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2023 at 10:25pm
 I am going to see Ian / Wanabe … has em all to choose from. Wasn’t sure he was even still in market but he has reached out.  But wow .. “the man of lures” is still there!
Next fish on that Rg2 lumo will be dedicated to Ian, with the upmost respect. Good to see the old school westy network still works on here.
I know Nathan but not into bothering him for one lure and his Rg2 has got some good press on this post. Don’t think he’ll be too bothered me buying second hand Rg2 lumo (likely lightly used)  off Ian. 


Posted By: Fish Addict
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2023 at 10:30pm
Shane - an inline bird could provide you with more surface commotion ........... ???


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2023 at 11:39pm
Yep and seen the new bonze ones … expensive. Reckon would be good but I am very old school … was one of last to use dredges here… which another boat go on uses sometimes 2 bonze dredges.. personally no longer use them as don’t believe makes much difference. Have a very nice squid nation dredge in garage, didn’t get used at all this year, and plenty of enquiries without a dredge.

But to your point , actually  a believer in birds more than dredges and something I would like to explore. Boats that do run them, seen a few Boone birds ….they look cool and create a lot of commotion in strike zone, likely a good choice for smaller boats like mine. But usually seen in launch spreads.
Funny you don’t hear more about em…as old school lure fisher I reckon are probably better option than using a dredge if wishing to attract fish to what your lures are doing. I’ve rarely used my dredge and never yet a bird. Latter may change on basis an n old dog could learn a new trick. Still fascinated by those who run birds off Tuts when watch their spreads go past.
But hey, I am a simple guy - 4 great lures can be more than enough where the fish are.


Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2023 at 12:05pm
I like the Pakula Mouse on the SR. In a darker colour to stand out in and around the whitewater.

Swims like a champ in most conditions...


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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2023 at 4:30pm
Hey Shane. Do you guys still have the two Top Gun lumo lures I gave you and Tanya as a wedding present?

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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2023 at 8:30pm
Yep Rowan and still a top choice for my SR, pretty beaten up though, one is even partially re skirted,  after underskirt fell out. Are bit faded after lot of use and one of heads bit munted. Caught a few fish on them. And if was fishing tomorrow would be what I’d  be running on SR great all round lumo lure the top gun goadby witch in lumo.
Need something newer though to replace black magic stripey 2s.


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2023 at 9:13pm
Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

I like the Pakula Mouse on the SR. In a darker colour to stand out in and around the whitewater.

Swims like a champ in most conditions...
Yep mouse pukula lumo is great contender as well. Funny as have bigger rat original in lumo, was gifted many years ago and yet to run it.


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2023 at 7:22pm
Just realised my quest for another SR lumo … could be a false alarm ringing in my head. Dug a few out and some pukulas at front and the little flea are literally untried , goadby witch ( lure at top) have a spare for (great lure). The smaller pukula sprocket also won heaviest marlin weighed for wife in nautigals quite a few years ago but was on LR at time.  But still yearning for lumo swimmer like an RG2.
As said the black magic xtc lumo in middle above flea was disappointing ….maybe will run better on lighter trace which have run once with.. but is finding competition with phantom on LR very tough going. And literally is pretty sluggish non performer so far. The second down is local made  lure attracts everything including marlin and makos, slightly too big a head for my light riggers. So have run on LC.. not great hook up rate even on makos… which why has survived.



Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2023 at 7:53am
Hooker Ghost in BS or MSsizes are great short rigger lures, really easy to get to run well.

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Posted By: jakepitsville
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 10:26am
I remember when the zuker Black and Purple was the fav for the short corner.  I personally run an undertaker there.  but have also had multiple success with a BTK as well. 


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 10:30pm
Yep both good posts, ghost hard to find even on hooker site, get the undertaker lumo head (and don’t have any undertakers) and is one in lumo up road at hunting fishing constellation last time I looked... tempted but nah … bonze never been great for me apart from sharks and few hits on black and purple d shack. Love Bonze/ Mr Fleet but  his lures not as much. Never declared that before… I have some cool bonze lures although never been great catchers for me, but massively successful on other boats. Funny that stuff… only ever done light gauge a few times and not fan of corroded hooks after a season.
Hey I’m cheap arse like **** stuff to last for years.
Went into Marine Deals quite a  few months ago ... saw Steve Campbell, and he really likes larger bonze lures ..and that’s a way better recommendation.  Told him we mainly catch stripeys here... little out my league, as buying another pukula phantom at the time. But hey the bonze “heat” I don’t  have, and Steve didn’t recommend that, looks like a choice lure.


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2023 at 11:14pm
Black n purple Zuker.. my best lure I still have, bought for my 40th birthday by now wife (wasn’t at time) .. I’m now 58 . Best long corner ever and have also caught fish on riggers with it. Scarred up MF of a lure. I don’t run it any more but have caught stripeys and real good blue on it. Retired. They don’t make em anymore. And mine is super special as every time look at bill marks over that head has all the memories.


Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 6:00pm
Must be a non fishing post here Shane, ie it’s winter and I’m not fishing .
A disease suffered by all fisherman particularly those of summer pelagic slants.
I’m just kidding.

But in truth you know there is no specific great lure.

You know all too well, it’s the right place at the right time.

It needs to be an active lure in the right position at the right time.

Trolling any item giving off the right signals-in the right place meaning where the fish should be is the key.

Yes some colour combinations are relevant but that is around light conditions and current bait environment.

It’s a lottery but with the ability to stack the cards, ie you’re kinda the house it can be improved by using the right tools. 
Oops I almost fell into the trap of confirming your need to use a specific lure, or have I.


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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 7:41pm
Very true Matt… I just love hearing what other fishos do and run, and most of us suffer from nagging fear of missing out. 
I am/was addicted to collecting lures… but am really judicious around what I buy now days. Probably limit of one new lure a year, and some years have even bought none but have lost few favs over last few years, or had em damaged by fish. Mahis love those wings on pretty Hawaiian lures, have surprisingly sharp saw like teeth on bigger models. Had a mako smash hole in another nice lumo plunger. And this year had one busted off by a big fish I believe was a Black.
Stop by for coffee at Lincoln Rd coffee club sometime.


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 8:55pm
Getting your good proven lures wrecked and not able to replace is what hurts.
I have a few Zucker blk and prple. Didn't know no longer avilable. WTF? Why would they do that - one of the best. It does your head in.
regards from Vtu.
Alan


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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2023 at 9:21pm
Post now getting boring… but thanks everyone for input, we have probably covered it for another couple of years, unless unforeseen hot lure comes along.
But hello Alan,  how is fishing where you are now? Likely, hopefully endless blue sky and workups off that fad out from where you live? Something like heaven I suspect.



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