BaCon
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Printed Date: 31 Jan 2026 at 6:36am
Topic: BaCon
Posted By: RockCrashing
Subject: BaCon
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 10:08am
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Curing for 12 days, the weather, rain & wind so decided to let curing the belly for extra few days. After washing the belly from cure, dried and air refrigerated overnight. Cooked at 140Cel/285F. Maple & hickory wood used. Cure: Himalayan Salt, brown sugar, fresh thyme, maple sirup and my secret ingredient... Kecap Manis :) Just before smoking have decided to sprinkle little on top my favourite rub, Cimarron Docs, its smoky, spicy & sweet and that was a good call.
And now time for the pictures...LOL
After 12 days curing and turning every day. The small piece piece weighted 1.250grams and after curing & smoking the weight was 880grams. Time to cure some more,lol
After washing the belly refrigerated overnight in open box. Here in the past I've made big mistake by only rinsing the belly, the outcome; the bacon was always too salty.
Second-guessing my wireless probes, lol The plan was to pull it at 62-64Cel, lol
They say; resist temptation, don't cut & eat freshly cooked bacon, ROFL
This morning finally going to have my own thick sliced home made bacon for breakfast 
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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 1:26pm
Now hungry.thanks RC. Oh well might give chicken a go saturday .Tandori style
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Posted By: lawabidingpoacher
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 1:53pm
nice ,nothing better than thick self cured bacon with eggs and home made worchester sauce ! Have just done two small front shoulders off a nice little wild caught pig in rum and que rib rocker rub and oakridge bbq habanero death dustwhich is warmish to say the least ... also a couple off mutton shoulder chops of which i was given about 20 off for my dogs ! They haven't had any yet.. I rubbed them with olive oil and tuscan seasoning and have guava and fejoa on also . will do these on Sunday.
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Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 5:08pm
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PCJ, you know i like tandoori chicken, lol If i could assist with my favourite marinade for tandoori... just ask, will give you the short or long version :)))
LBP, i'm very pleased that you managed with no problems overcome the posting picture issue... and what a picture it is mate. Lov what you doing, this rub is great for pork imo, wild boar thats a next level, great;) And all the goodies on the chops. Please don't forget to post lots of pic when the cooking is done
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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 5:58pm
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Has anyone wrapped potatos/kumara/pumpkin wrapped in tinfoil and placed on rack or coals??
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Posted By: Keith C
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 6:22pm
Pcj wrote:
Has anyone wrapped potatos/kumara/pumpkin wrapped in tinfoil and placed on rack or coals??
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Yes, in coals. Also whole or half butternut works very well. And onion with skin on directly into coals or wrapped in foil. If left in skins, it can be simply squeezed out when cooked.
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Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 6:24pm
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Are you thinking with some butter, salt & some herbs ? Have done on open fire in camp, should work well in barrel imo
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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 6:29pm
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Could be interesting cooking,have special mix for veges I want to try.
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 7:12pm
Butternut pumpkin, cut the top off and pull the pips out, then fill with a mixture of garlic onions and cream. Put the top back on and cook in your smoker.
Yum š¤¤
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Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 7:52am
Pcj wrote:
Has anyone wrapped potatos/kumara/pumpkin wrapped in tinfoil and placed on rack or coals?? |
Hey mate,
Have done this plenty of times. Works a treat.
If you are going to be doing a pumpkin, might I suggest something. Don't peel the pumpkin.
Cut an opening at the top just big enough for someone with a small hand to dig the pips out with. The wife generally works well in this occasion.
Don't mangle that piece you cut out as you want this to slot back in after pips are out so that it basically steams from the inside.
Fill the inside of the pumpkin with creamed sweetcorn and a 1/2 cup Gruyere cheese or Mozzarella (or whatever cheese takes your fancy - you don't want an oily cheese though). Add some diced bacon bits into it as well with a good dash of Paprika or if you fancy some cayenne.
Wrap and secure well in tinfoil - remember this thing gets soft when it cooks and you don't want the finished product falling apart in the coals. Alternately do in an oven or crockpot - but you miss out on that smoky vibe.
It's a show stopper - the comments about taste and presentation are always amusing.
Have at it - enjoy 
EDIT - didn't read to bottom of the posts and see this has been suggested already. Apologies for doubling up 
------------- "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught,will we realize that we cannot eat money" - 19th Century Indian Creed
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Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 9:02am
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I like the recipe Jaapie. One question, wrapping the pumpkin well in tinfoil from the beginning... how much smoke flavour do you get?
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 9:21am
Jaapie wrote:
Pcj wrote:
Has anyone wrapped potatos/kumara/pumpkin wrapped in tinfoil and placed on rack or coals?? |
Hey mate,
Have done this plenty of times. Works a treat.
If you are going to be doing a pumpkin, might I suggest something. Don't peel the pumpkin.
Cut an opening at the top just big enough for someone with a small hand to dig the pips out with. The wife generally works well in this occasion.
Don't mangle that piece you cut out as you want this to slot back in after pips are out so that it basically steams from the inside.
Fill the inside of the pumpkin with creamed sweetcorn and a 1/2 cup Gruyere cheese or Mozzarella (or whatever cheese takes your fancy - you don't want an oily cheese though). Add some diced bacon bits into it as well with a good dash of Paprika or if you fancy some cayenne.
Wrap and secure well in tinfoil - remember this thing gets soft when it cooks and you don't want the finished product falling apart in the coals. Alternately do in an oven or crockpot - but you miss out on that smoky vibe.
It's a show stopper - the comments about taste and presentation are always amusing.
Have at it - enjoy 
EDIT - didn't read to bottom of the posts and see this has been suggested already. Apologies for doubling up 
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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 10:05am
how long should I cook it for?? last hr of cooking?? have brought the cream ,squash,garlic/onionand have some well cured brie or is it camembert in the fridge,probly past use by date but who will notice
Have chicken marinating overnight and smell good now.Guessing 2 1/2 hrs as barrel temp gets to about 75c according to thermometre supplied
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 10:16am
Pcj wrote:
how long should I cook it for?? last hr of cooking?? have brought the cream ,squash,garlic/onionand have some well cured brie or is it camembert in the fridge,probly past use by date but who will notice
Have chicken marinating overnight and smell good now.Guessing 2 1/2 hrs as barrel temp gets to about 75c according to thermometre supplied | I normally cook it in the oven for about an hour so work on the temp your smoking at.
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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 10:24am
Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 8:14am
RockCrashing wrote:
I like the recipe Jaapie. One question, wrapping the pumpkin well in tinfoil from the beginning... how much smoke flavour do you get? |
Good question - I usually wrap the pumpkin 4/5 way up the sides with the lid part uncovered. There isn't a lot of smoky flavour from the actual smoking - more from the bacon to be honest, but it does have a funky colour ring around it where smoke hasn't been able to penetrate the foil.
Another hack is ALWAYS wrapping shining side of foil inside. Apparently this reflects heat inwards?? Not sure how they ever scientifically came up with this but it certainly does work in my humble opinion and cuts cooking time down a bit.
You want at least double wrap (heavy duty foil) at the bottom to hold the pumpkin together. Remember this gets soft when it's cooked. Depending on size and obviously temperature, it takes about 1.5 - 2 hours in a relatively hot fire.
Starting in oven and transferring for the last bit to fire makes good sense. Alternately, adding lifting strings (easier to get out) you can put the foiled pumpkin into a crockpot on high before finishing in fire.
Try it if you get the chance - it really is quite different but in a very good way.
Good luck mate. 
------------- "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught,will we realize that we cannot eat money" - 19th Century Indian Creed
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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 8:39am
I wrapped the pumpkin in foil and placed on bottom rack,cooked 3 hrs in the end,put in with the chicken,came out well,sliced it and used the mix as a sauce.Wouldnt change a thing.
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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 10:25am
Quote Jappie :-Good question - I usually wrap the pumpkin 4/5 way up the sides with the lid part uncovered. There isn't a lot of smoky flavour from the actual smoking - more from the bacon to be honest, but it does have a funky colour ring around it where smoke hasn't been able to penetrate the foil.
Another hack is ALWAYS wrapping shining side of foil inside. Apparently this reflects heat inwards?? Not sure how they ever scientifically came up with this but it certainly does work in my humble opinion and cuts cooking time down a bit.
Unquote :- Interestingly enough the mono "magic" foil that is more expensive due to its' claim to be non stick & overall superior advises to ensure the dull side of the foil should be next to the food.
The only comment I can add is that I am going to get told off whenever I try to use it because "That is the expensive stuff ... use the normal cheaper one " !!!!!!!!
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Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 3:32pm
Thanx very much to all of you, PCJ, Kandrew & Jaapie for the idea and recipes. Initially i thought it's nice creamy dish in a pumpkin shell. Then when Jaapie mention bacon, paprika and some cayenne ... i didn't sleep that night well  This morning after writing long list of my favourites ingredients which imo will go well with pumpkin i went shopping. Not easy to find nice pumpkin, visited four shops and in the end got three small pumpkins, the label say "Butterkin" looks great but is damm small after taking the core out. Hope i can stuffed all the goodies in Tomorow looks like a nice day for outdoor cooking
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Posted By: lawabidingpoacher
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 7:31am
yesterdays cook turned out all right . The dog food mutton chops got 5.5 hrs and the pork got a full 12 . After seeing the pumpkin recipe i thought why not . Had one of the small orange ones in pantry , i only put the creamy corn , onion , garlic and some fat off the chops into it ,fully wrapped in foiland it got 3 hrs.. also couple of spuds and a kumara for just over an hour.. and all is tasty as ..The final product photos are not that good , it's amazing how much beer you have to drink while cooking!!
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Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 8:22am
Well done fella's  
Really cool @Pcj - glad it worked out for you mate.
@Bazza - not sure what magic foil is, but here in Aussie we get proper catering foil which is heavy duty stuff - not that tissue paper you find over there.
I've been in Whangaparaoa for the last two months and it's tough to try find suitable replacement products for many things - not to mention at an affordable price. WOW - food is expensive here!
As an aside - The theory of the shiny side inside is that shiny reflects heat, hence putting it inside. At any rate, just passing on what I was told. Do it your way - whatever works for you.
@RockCrashing - go for it mate. It's really good.
@lawabidingpoacher - brother, you win the internet for the day! That looks AMAZING! Well done Sir - take a well deserved bow 
------------- "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught,will we realize that we cannot eat money" - 19th Century Indian Creed
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Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2022 at 9:30am
Very happy with the stuffed pumpkin experience
I've made the stuffing of mixture we like, smoke bacon, spicy chorizo mince, mushrooms, jalapeƱo, chickpeas +++... It took 2h 30m to cook, last hour wrapped in foil at 350f/176C Great flavour of sweet pumpkin with spicy stuffing. Didn't get much smoke flavour but it was great weather for outdoor cooking & some beer  
and wife sneaking behind my back 
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Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2022 at 9:57am
Jaapie wrote:
"@Bazza - not sure what magic foil is" |
Jaapie, the magic foil is a non-stick mono foil, very nice product, more expensive and is in some cases very useful. But when using lots, i would recommend thick long roll of catering foil... attn; Bazza
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Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2022 at 7:54am
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Cool - thanks for that.
Will have a look for it - planning on sticky chicken wings and non-stick foil sounds sensible.
------------- "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught,will we realize that we cannot eat money" - 19th Century Indian Creed
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Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2022 at 1:20pm

More smoked bacon...
Marinaded, cured for 2 weeks & turned every day. This time i think i,ve add little to much salt to the cure.
All done... lets have a nice breakfast
While slicing the bacon for b-fast i got distracted ... what, still haven't got sold 
So trying to balance the salty bacon for b-fast with some pouched eggs, mushrooms & capsicum 
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