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Printed Date: 18 May 2021 at 10:22pm


Topic: supplier info
Posted By: Alan L
Subject: supplier info
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 12:35pm
Hoping someone here may be in the know.
I have a Fyran 530.  I also have now - as of today, a cracked screen.
Trying to find a source to replace it.
I don't seem to be able to find a Fyran website and it seems they were sold a few yrs back. 
The screen has a Galaxy Marine Systems sticker on it. But I can't pull them up on the web search either.
Anyone got any clues as to what happened to fyran, and how to go about getting a new screen
Thanks
Alan


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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 12:58pm
http://www.seathru.co.nz" rel="nofollow - www.seathru.co.nz try them - i just googled marine windscreens auckland - Dont think fyran around anymore.



Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 1:00pm
Yeah there is this one too...

https://cambrianplastics.co.nz/product/boat-window/" rel="nofollow - https://cambrianplastics.co.nz/product/boat-window/

They use your old screen as template and make new one the same..


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 1:06pm
Thanks.
That should be enough to go on. I just googled marine screens and got an Akl company too. Not sure why I didn't do that first time.
Thanks
Alan


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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 8:00pm
So can someone confirm, Fyran no longer exist?
Seems weird. I did pull up a Bayles F/S notice for Fyran 2015. Sold.
So that would suggest the Co changed hands. But I am getting the impression they no longer exist?
That would be sad - in an era when we must have something like 50 tinnie boat builders and all I know of are flat out - even post Covid. I love my 530 - have two of them. 
Alan


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Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 9:20pm
Fryan Boats

11 Reg Savory Place
East Tamaki
Ph 09 273 1700

Their website is down so suspect they are no longer trading.
They were still operating 2014...

Wish you luck


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 9:28pm
Yes I'm pretty sure Fyran shut up shop a few years back, I'm sure one of those places posted up will be able to help

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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2021 at 7:46am
Thanks Smudge. It seems I don't need Fyran as far as replacing the screen. This work it seems is generally outsourced to screen suppliers. So I should be able to track someone down. Waiting on replies now - but Covid may intervene now.
But I was just curious how a boat manufacturer (and well known) can just disappear.
If it was insolvency you would think you would pull up articles on such when you Google them. They just seem to have simply vanished. Weird. The Bayleys link said sold - for $795k. In which case, what happened to the purchaser? Maybe someone just bought the assets and shut the place down? Just curious.
Regards
Alan


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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2021 at 8:48am
This work it seems is generally outsourced to screen suppliers.

 I believe Sandbrook Windscreens made screens for the local manufactures going right back to the 1970s... and still have a lot of the moulds tucked away.

 As to Fryan.. was doing bit of digging on older fryran hulls a few weeks back  and rem reading something about another company buying them out, changing design heavier hulls etc..


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2021 at 11:00am
Steps - Sandbrook is one company I have contacted. they are still around. Unlike Fyran.
Regards
Alan


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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 9:41am
Do you still have the old screen?
 The old screen can be used as a  'mould' by a company that cuts, moulds, bend acrylic sheets and have a large enough oven.
 The down side to this is the screen height ends up being slightly lower than the original.
 So maybe worth while looking around at acrylic suppliers as well. The crowd in Duruy Sth Auckland, dont have an oven large enough as at a couple yrs ago.
 Sandbrooks, I have dealt with going back to the very early '70s and mid 80s.


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 2:03pm
Thanks Steps. You are on to it. Sandbooks have come back - they have the mould. Prepared to make me a new screen for $2k. The screen is about 2m long and 4-500mm high.
I have found a local source of supposedly the correct acrylic. Am buying a sheet tomorrow (approx $200). That will be enough for a spare - in case I stuff up, or break another one. Am about to test my skills. have made lexan windows for race car before - but not had to mould shapes.
That should fill in an afternoon. Or day. Or two.
Regards
Alan


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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 2:46pm
Two grand for a poxy boat windscreen that sounds like highway robbery to me!Ouch

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Posted By: 300wsm
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 3:15pm


Would that help?


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 5:11pm
Yep catchelot - agree more or less. Don't mind them making a profit, but......
Plan B is to give the other half of the sheet to the supplier if my attempt fails. Can make 2 screens from 1 sheet . $100 materials. $1900 know-how (incl GST). Not sure how much the supplier will cost - but said could do if had the old screen.
300wsm - never seen one before. maybe something I need for the shed. In case I break more screens.
Regards
Alan


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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 7:05pm
Originally posted by Mr Moritz Mr Moritz wrote:

Fryan Boats

11 Reg Savory Place
East Tamaki
Ph 09 273 1700

Their website is down so suspect they are no longer trading.
They were still operating 2014...

Wish you luck

Yip, you used to be able to see Fyran boats lining the inside of the fenceline with Te Irirangi Dr as you drove past.
It seems like it wasn't that long ago that I saw boats, so maybe the company carried on for a while after the original owners took it back over in 2015.

But the site is now Advantage Cars Botany.


Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Moritz Mr Moritz wrote:

Fryan Boats

11 Reg Savory Place
East Tamaki
Ph 09 273 1700

Their website is down so suspect they are no longer trading.
They were still operating 2014...

Wish you luck

Yip, you used to be able to see Fyran boats lining the inside of the fenceline with Te Irirangi Dr as you drove past.
It seems like it wasn't that long ago that I saw boats, so maybe the company carried on for a while after the original owners took it back over in 2015.

But the site is now Advantage Cars Botany.

I thought they were modelled/copied off Parkercraft which were one of the few first Ali boats sold to public in NZ in the 70's.

As production got better I believe the fyrans were a machine pressed into a mould to produce the boat, which predominantly was riveted. So they were never sheet gauge ali, but I dare say some of the bigger models were...

Anyway, Al do you need an expensive glass unit or would a perspex equivalent suffice?

Real blokes look for fishy sign over the windscreen anyway!LOL



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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 8:57pm
Oh - I will try and stay with perspex - it has a curve in it. Glass wont do.
I will just need to remember to take less green water over the front.It is not a submarine after all.
Alan


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Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 5:28am
Look on south Florida sportsman project dream boat, one of the guys shows you how he bends boat windscreens, good info.

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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 7:52am
Thanks Viscount - will check. Surfed a few U Tube vids.
I have done one smallish curved screen before on a center console boat. This will be a bit more of a challenge in precision.
Alan


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Posted By: Tonto2
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:08pm
Pretty sure the Spencer family could not secure a buyer for fryan so closed it down

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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by Tonto2 Tonto2 wrote:

Pretty sure the Spencer family could not secure a buyer for fryan so closed it down

Maybe they anticipated the covid lead demand for their base product ... namely toilet paper, therefore would make sense to concentrate on
the profit to be generated from the hungry hordes hell bent on stockpiling as much as they can get their hands on each time we go into shutdown. 


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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 5:20pm
Job completed.
Had some pics to upload. But the latest Microsoft update my computer insisted on seems to have put pictures out of the question. Can't get them from my phone to laptop. hate this technology.
Forecast good tomorrow. Just have to remember not to take on 2m greenies again.
Alan


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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 8:56pm
Got a spare template if any one cracks Fyran 530 screen :-)
Alan


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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 10:05pm

Well done ... looks better than the original.




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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 11:00pm
Yeah very cool

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Posted By: kimber7wsm
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 6:13am
Good work. Maybe you could put a how to write up in the boating section, for future reference. It seems like a good project. I'm sure that someone else will need to do the same.


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 7:04am
OK - will do.
Next time would try a slightly different approach. But took about 4-5 hrs all up.
Alan


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Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 9:52am
Well done. Great job.. Can certainly save a lot if you do jobs yourself..Thumbs Up


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 10:05am
That is real cool..
 Definitely need a how to write up.


Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 10:45am
Great stuff. How did you transfer the curved original to the template? Tape a big big sheet of paper to it and trace the outline or something?

EDIT: Be worthwhile re-making the little corner pieces from your offcuts to complete the refreshed look?


Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 4:50pm
Rozboon - that may be a very rainy day project. Prob just requires removing the top frame. Hmm. Maybe.
To answer your Q
I laid the original on the new sheet of perspex. The bit across the mid screen is relatively flat - easy. You may notice on one pic the original has a line of tape - holding the two halves together. Taped it both sides before removing from frame.
When I had transferred the front piece profile I rolled it along one curve - partly. And there was some flex in the sheet below - so a combo of rolling the original on the curve and pulling the sheet up to meet it part way. The template profile turned out perfect to the mm - it has to fit inside the corner piece frames.
I did do center marks (top and bottom) on the frames and original screen before removing - then transferred the screen center marks to the perspex profile template. Used those as locating points every time the pieces were moved.
Regards
Alan


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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by kimber7wsm kimber7wsm wrote:

Good work. Maybe you could put a how to write up in the boating section, for future reference. It seems like a good project. I'm sure that someone else will need to do the same.

Yeah me


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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 5:59pm
You did very well, I have enjoyed reading about the process.Clap

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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 6:52pm
Originally posted by kimber7wsm kimber7wsm wrote:

Good work. Maybe you could put a how to write up in the boating section, for future reference. It seems like a good project. I'm sure that someone else will need to do the same.

Done - in Boating - DIY windscreen job.
Alan


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