spooling braid
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Topic: spooling braid
Posted By: Alan L
Subject: spooling braid
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 2:49pm
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Do you folks spool the braid directly on to the reel spool, or do you put a small amount of mono beneath it? I am about to do a new reel. I have generally put a few meters of mono on the base of the spool first. I was told to do this years ago by somebody I figured knew more than me. Something to do with a cushion for the braid. It is not making a whole lot of sense to me and thought worth checking before I embark on this one. Thanks Alan ------------- Legasea Legend member |
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Posted By: Accident Prone
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 3:17pm
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It won't grip the bare spool mate and can spin on the spool. I normally use some double sided tape around the spool first. Some people use insulation tape and some use a small amount of mono on first. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 3:18pm
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What reel Alan? I dont bother with mono unless i need backing to fill spool to full. I mostly stock a piece of electrical tape on arbur first though, (stop slippage) -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 3:24pm
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Saragosa 20000 spinning reel Kaveman. Thanks Alan ------------- Legasea Legend member |
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 3:44pm
| As long as it's spooled under decent tension it won't slip. |
Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 3:51pm
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The reason I was given is that braid has minimal if any stretch & being such a relatively small dia tends to wind on as if it were a bush without a key or anything to prevent it from turning or locking in place when drag is applied. The theory is that a base of nylon, tape or bandaid etc forms a cushion that can compress & in doing so allow the braid windings to grip.
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Posted By: Ecko
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 4:03pm
| I spooled up one of my 3000 reels with braid but didn't do any mono underneath and the bugger is slipping so job for this week is to put a backing or as above insulation or 2x sided tape. |
Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 5:23pm
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Right looks like there is a reason why I have put mono on all these yrs. looks like tape or mono. I guess you guys would know better - but I wonder about corrosion under the tape. I guess not. But I may as well stick to mono - usually 5-10m. Just one more FG knot. Thanks Alan ------------- Legasea Legend member |
Posted By: Crochet Cast
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 7:06pm
Same here |
Alan L wrote:Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 9:08pm
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Alan, I follow this formula. Old ceramic spools, mono only, or large mono backing, firmly packed. Crushing and shattering of spool on a large fish was a common occurrence. Chrome spools, mono backing as above. Braid crushes chrome plating, so mono is a cushion. Modern spools are well made alloy generally, no crushing or direct abrasion issues. Spools that have a knob point braid can be tied directly to spool no slippage. Spools without a knob point require mono to gain grip, including the right knot, and spooling techniques. With all spools, all spools require the regular removal of line to clean and maintain. I recommend on all respooling that the spool is greased for annual corrosion prevention. There's probably more I could pas on but that's the basics for use, longevity of tools and assuring your kit will stand up. M ------------- Still cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0! |
Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 11:00pm
| I haven't put anything under braid for years, maybe a decade and no issues! Overhead reels and spinning reels, trout to marlin reels. |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 8:46am
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When 1st started with braid, I did everything wrong.. No backing, tension too loose. Many thanks to so much learnt from Phil Baker (who is unfortunately locked down in Britain) I orginally used a few layers of mono... Then found out crushing was not an issue on my spools, so went to insulation tape.. not the cheap stuff, expensive 3M. If that made a difference??? Anyway even then found a tiny little corrosion... Now use 3 layer of 3M tape, cant rem what called, but stretches way beyond 2x, and sort of 'welds' back onto its self. Its used where cabling in extreme conditions and long term (decades) is required eg communication towers at high altitudes that go from very high summer temps to well below freezing. Maybe over kill, but thats what have on the shelf, got used, and fully seals, no adhesives to fail, no moisture. Had a tiny leak on the bighorn power steering a while back.. Wrapped that around real tight, 4 layers..held up till got to replacing the hose...same for old cracked vaccuum hoses leaking, till get replaced. I think both would have lasted months or yrs beyond when the hoses actually got replaced. Also really good for wiring looms, automotive and marine. |
Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2021 at 11:03am
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Steps, self amalgamating tape..I seem to have accumulated heaps from my years at the mill. Good to learn some of this stuff. I've only got a few reels with braid on and never knew any of this. ------------- you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while... |
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2021 at 12:26pm
Same here, only got 2 mono reels in the whole fleet, everything else is straight braid to the spool arbor, only had braid slip once and that was due to spooling it way too loose. Couple of reels running silly amounts of drag too. Spool it properly and you won't have issues. |
Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 8:47pm
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I don't add anything under the braid either. Good knots and tight lines. Alan you were probably advised to put mono under because braid was/is expensive and to spool a reel completely without "backing" wasn't necessary also many moons ago most were just 300 yard spools.
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Posted By: Alan L
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 9:24pm
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Doug - not sure why. But to have a cushion seems familiar. FWIW I have spooled about 10m of mono under the braid - as I always did. Never had any issues - but from time to time I query why I do things a certain way. FWIW I always spool it on under tension - prob about half the fighting tension. PITA and my arms are stuffed after. But a oncer basically.And when the marlin/YF is running you down on the spool you get a certain comfort knowing you have done the best you can and it should not fail as long as you don't run out of line. As you count the colours off. Alan ------------- Legasea Legend member |
Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 9:57pm
| Each to their own, but in a spooling scenario, I want as much line on the reel as possible and as few knots. |