Not my back door
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Printed Date: 10 Jun 2026 at 1:36am
Topic: Not my back door
Posted By: pjc
Subject: Not my back door
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2020 at 7:44am
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A new mussel farm has been granted consent off the Eastern side of Ponui Island. But why would the NZSFC object to this?? https://www.nzsportfishing.co.nz/fisheries/area-management/aquaculture/ponui-mussel-farm-proposal Ponui Island farm manager objects on the grounds of having a farm in a Marine Park. What do they think the farms on the Eatern side of Coromandel are in. Provide the Farm is lit no issues. It would be another area in time to hold fish and help with water quality.Is this not what we want? For me it would mean closer area in safer water as prodominant is sw.Give access to smaller vessels than trying to cross the Firth(did Saturday)  ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
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Posted By: Reel Deal
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2020 at 8:03am
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I believe there were huge natural beds of mussels originally in the area historically so it can’t be that. But mussel farms aren’t the environmental win win they have been portrayed. If in the wrong place where a lot are they destroy sandy bay environments with piles of dead shells covering the sea floor, sand goes and muddy reefs appear. Attracts different sea life and stops natural sand flow. Good for snapper bad for shellfish like scallops pipis etc and gurnard. I hope in my life time the firths wild mussel seeding program pays off. The sea floor in miles of the firth were solid mussels before early dredging and as you say the firths water qualify would improve dramatically. ------------- The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men's lives the hours spent on fishing - Assyrian Proverb |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2020 at 1:31pm
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"Reel Deal" Something that I did forget to mention. 5 or 6 yrs ago NZSFC/Legasea were happy for the farms in Coromandel to donate tonnes of mussels to be dumped North of Rakino Island??to help improve the water quality so one wonders what has changed. ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2020 at 5:52pm
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Asked NZSFC why they object to such a farm, not the best response especially where they say "NO" to attending hearing or the opportunity to speak. https://www.nzsportfishing.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Ponui-submission-NZSFC-Dec-2019.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0520P8cDYQAtK4nQ19DaZ4f4IIWbjRq7ATBh_38M-jUkA5Aznrohj4Fnk" rel="nofollow - https://www.nzsportfishing.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Ponui-submission-NZSFC-Dec-2019.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0520P8cDYQAtK4nQ19DaZ4f4IIWbjRq7ATBh_38M-jUkA5Aznrohj4Fnk Yet Legasea seems to approve mussel farms,despite being part of the NZSFC https://legasea.co.nz/2017/02/09/planning-for-an-abundant-hauraki-gulf-marine-park Areas will be set aside to allow for environmentally responsible aquaculture, outlining areas to farm mussels, oysters and a range of finfish while allowing for future development of farming for species such as scallop and rock lobster and a range of seaweed. This activity will create both economy and employment in rural communities as well as further recreational fishing opportunities. ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: the croc
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 8:00am
| They end up being FADS so it's good for recreational fishers, as we've seen with the other mussel farms in the Gulf. |
Posted By: the croc
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 8:16am
 The proposed area seems to be on the edge of a high use recreational area. |
Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 9:00am
| The Croc - whats that map showing - and could you give me a link to find it online. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 10:54am
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Not sure I understand the map there Croc ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Clifftastic
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:50am
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It'll be a map derived from NIWA ramp surveys indicating where people fished. The dark reds and oranges are high rec fishing areas. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: the croc
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 12:48pm
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It's a heat map of recreational fishing activity, taken from aerial overflight surveys. Basically hot (red/orange) areas show more activity. Taken from: https://seachange.org.nz/assets/Sea-Change/SWG/Recreational-Fisheries-in-the-Hauraki-Gulf-Bruce-Hartill-NIWA.pdf https://seachange.org.nz/assets/Sea-Change/SWG/Recreational-Fisheries-in-the-Hauraki-Gulf-Bruce-Hartill-NIWA.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://seachange.org.nz/assets/Sea-Change/SWG/Recreational-Fisheries-in-the-Hauraki-Gulf-Bruce-Hartill-NIWA.pdf |
Posted By: John_Ra
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 4:05pm
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Anyone got a map location of the New Farm thats already out there, just curious of where this other farm would be....in relation to it... cheers
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Posted By: Reel Deal
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 5:40pm
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Croc that map is very interesting. Is there any for other areas around nz also?thanks for sharing that. Interesting indeed. ------------- The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men's lives the hours spent on fishing - Assyrian Proverb |
Posted By: the croc
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:40pm
http://https://wetmaps.co.nz/" rel="nofollow - http://https://wetmaps.co.nz/  |
John_Ra wrote:Posted By: the croc
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:48pm
Yep a few other areas are covered. It's getting pretty old though. Hauraki Gulf is done fairly regularly but the map is from 2008 now. There's a version to look at online here: http://https://maps.mpi.govt.nz/templates/MPIViewer/" rel="nofollow - http://https://maps.mpi.govt.nz/templates/MPIViewer/
Or you can download/view the layer here: http://https://data-mpi.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/recreational-fishing-effort-aerial-survey" rel="nofollow - http://https://data-mpi.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/recreational-fishing-effort-aerial-survey  |
Posted By: snapperdave
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 4:08pm
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https://webapp.navionics.com/#boating@9&key=h~j%60Fyqvm%60%40%20" rel="nofollow - https://webapp.navionics.com/#boating@9&key=h~j%60Fyqvm%60%40
I think the new farm is shown here on Navionics. Haven't fished there, but I've seen a few boats in there when coming back from the other side.
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Posted By: John_Ra
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 10:58pm
Thx Dave, just renewed my sub with Navionics & saw it.. cheers Sats that place was loaded with boats, Fishing was red hot!! Today there was a barge farming there but slow bites..... That proposed one looks to be same distance, maybe a tad closer to kawaKawa Bay..... ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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