Kayak tips through lockdown
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
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Printed Date: 28 May 2026 at 10:37am
Topic: Kayak tips through lockdown
Posted By: Muppet
Subject: Kayak tips through lockdown
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:03pm
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Well we may as well talk fishing lads. The kayak section almost runs on regional threads but I will put up some stuff so you can agree or disagree! |
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:04pm
 These are the soft baiting conditions that suit the me, I love it. |
Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:25pm
| That is a conundrum. In that situation, I think it depends which is the stronger force, the wind or the current as I assume you want to be moving in the direction you cast. Having said that, I've been in some weird situations where my lure never hits bottom despite me moving towards it because of a strong current. |
Posted By: Buggar-me
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:29pm
| I jumped on all the forums today looking at really old posts. Being new to kayaking the photos of setups going back to 2005 were actually interesing. |
Posted By: Buggar-me
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:31pm
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I thought it wasn't wise to fish side on. Swell and wind making it dangerous. in saying that, i have been struggling to get the kayak in the right position to fish other than side on.
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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:37pm
| seems like a softbait is assumed bait here Dan, and you are going to retrieve it .. is that the situation? If so carry on ... What happens next ... this where you draw a big snapper coming in to strike on the board, please draw it smaller than the kayak ... otherwise won’t be realistic. |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:41pm
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actually if casting up against a reef being blown away I’d rather like that situation, provided sink rate on bait ,sufficient jig head weight is enuf. |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:45pm
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and how drawn would see bait drawn out but down across current according to my 3D modelling. Down to left on diagram where current slows and slightly backwards based on your wind drift speed ... will ensure firm hook up and constant pressure on fish depending on wind speed. Am I close... did I nail it. Put another one up. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:54pm
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:56pm
| This is my ideal scenario, when the mojo is full swing in these conditions I catch them hand over fist. No rod holder second bait out business either. |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:59pm
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ahh I suspected as much looked reasonably favourable scenario. |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 7:07pm
| personally .. if I was clever enough to draw one (ideal scenario) it would be no wind and very sight current slowly drifting through a shallow channel between island or mainland, casting ahead and to sides. Gardner’s inside channel between mainland and islands, or Motoreka channel between rock on Sth west cnr, or lot of spots like it round Mercury’s ... where waters shallow but currenty and strikes occur on surface are less than couple meters of water... where snaps run after bait like a big king... fearless and aggressive... and strike bait with back out of the water. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 7:09pm
 The crucial part if in 10m give it ten seconds before engaging bailarm over. When its on it won't take 10 seconds the line will fly off your reel. When you cast lay your line as straight as possible it is basically fly fishing. The braid will tell you everything. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 7:11pm
| Buggar Me the advantage of no drogue is apparrent when hooked to a large fish. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 7:12pm
Days with wind outnumber the calm ones mate lol |
shaneg wrote:Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 7:20pm
Better drift speed with no drogue. Advantage of drogue is not not being pulled as quick into rocks by a large snap or king.
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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 7:22pm
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very nice cousins rod in that photo Dan |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 7:26pm
They get the angle on you and you are stuffed. |
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 8:33pm
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Yeah you want to be swinging the softie into the current. I only use the drogue if it starts getting dangerous to drift without it, often in an easterly around here I end up with the drogue off the front just for safety reasons. I do the "1 mississippi" per metre of depth thing too, when using 3/8oz on a 5" zman. Keeping the slack braid to a minimum without affecting the sink of the bait is key.
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 9:23pm
Very interesting, Dan. You've often mentioned getting smashed on the drop. If the line starts shooting, do you flip the bail arm over and strike, a bit like straylining?
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 10:10pm
| Exactly like that Lester. At first especially on calm days watch the line on the surface. In the wind watch it between the spool and the first guide. Quite often I flick the spool over straight into a fish but mostly the line tells you everything. |
Posted By: Buggar-me
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 8:43am
| I suppose its whats suits you the best. Some say drogue some say no. They all catch fish. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 9:38am
| True but you know if you throw the drogue out in my situation you will probably be facing the wrong way with it behind you as the wind pushes you the other way. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 9:41am
 I think most folks do this. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 6:21pm
 Another favourite soft bait scenario for me in close. |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 7:30pm
Thanks mate. if you end up in wind and tide in the same direction, do you close the bail arm earlier, or leave it open?
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 7:34pm
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Personally still leave it open. But a shorter time and I find myself winding into fish. I drop a lot more this way, I much prefer my ideal conditions. |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 3:32pm
This will make you cry 
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