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The meaning of "with the cast greased to float."

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Topic: The meaning of "with the cast greased to float."
Posted By: GO-Ito
Subject: The meaning of "with the cast greased to float."
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 8:55am
Dear forum members

Hi! I am asking the second question on this forum.
Thank you so much the last time. I was helped so much.

I have still been reading "Serious about Trout Fishing" by
Tony Orman and John Morton.

There is a paragraph on page 115, Chapter 16 : "Fishing the Surface Film".

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Rather than watch the rise in the fading light,
an easier way is to watch for any adult flies floating down.
Particularly if you are facing the western sky at dusk,
flies may be spotted quite easily. If these are taken by a trout,
then the dry fly is called for. Otherwise you should fish in the
surface film. The key is to use a wet fly or lightly-dressed nymph,
preferably with the cast greased to float.
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I can not get the meaning of the word "greased" in the last sentence.

"preferably with the cast greased to float."

Does the word "grease" mean put some floatant onto the fly line?

Or make a soft presentation cast to prevent disturbing the water surface?

 
If someone has time, please help me to understand it.
I would appreciate so much.







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Posted By: GO-Ito
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 9:28am
I have found the following sentences in page 115.

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I tied up some very light-weight dark-coloured nymphs using
possum fur. Next night I greased the cast right to the size 14 nymph
and even applied a dab of line floatant to the nymph itself.
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By reading these sentences, I imagine that "greased the cast" means
make a soft and delicate presentation.

If the author put a dab of line floatant to his fly line, he would have written it clearly.

What is my interpretation?


Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 12:08pm
In this case the word 'cast' is another term for leader.

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Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 12:15pm
In the older parlance the cast is the leader, and to grease it is to apply floatant to ensure that the leader doesn’t drag the fly under.

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Posted By: GO-Ito
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 1:46pm
Dear Mr MarkE and Mr Snuffit

Thank you so much for the quick reply and kind answers.

I have checked the word "cast" with my English-Japanese Dic., but it does not show the meaning of "leader".

Now I have got the correct meanings of these descriptions.

Thank you again.
I wish you will have nice fishing days.

from GO-Ito


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 3:54pm
I haven't heard the word "cast" used in that context for a very long time.


Posted By: Jaapie
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 10:59am
Hi GO-Ito,

What Mark and Snuffit have said is correct.

To go just a bit further, the cast is old fashioned English referring to the days of horsehair leaders where they used to apply a floatant / drying agent to the whole length of the leader when dry fly fishing to keep the fly suspended or totally floating. The art of modern day nymphing was just starting to dawn at that time.

In today's context, the ..."Next night I greased the cast right to the size 14 nymph" means they have applied a floatant such as Goop or Loon onto the tippet section to make it float. In this case I can almost guarantee that they were fishing emerging caddis patterns.

If you have fished caddis emergers and newly hatched before you know how important it is for the fly to skate and not sink during the dusk period.

Good luck.


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Posted By: GO-Ito
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 9:38am
Hi! Jaapie.

It is been a long time. How are you? Enjoying fishing?
This is the second time that you gave me such useful and informative reply.
Thank you so much!!

In Japan, traditional "Tenkara" anglers used to make their own braided-tapered leader
with the tail hair of horses too.

When my father was a young boy, he used to "GET" a bunch of horsetail hair from a nearby
farmer's stable without his permission. So the farmer complained to my father every time they met.

Cheers,

GO-Ito



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