Here we go again .

Three guys fishing with 2 casting 1 getting his gear sorted .

At the pipe 1 deck chair with unattended rod which was had been casted into the lake ,also next to it a rod stand awaiting a rod .

So I decided to drive on as am not interested in this sort of fishing .

I thought you had to be in contact with your rod while fishing ??

Had this issue last Autumn at the same spot and was advised to lump it or leave it .So nothing changes I guess.

If i'm wrong tell me .

If my winge is right then how about some signage advising the ethics or rules as its a real pain to drive all the way there to be confronted with said problem.

Areas like the pipe & Ruato, really should be reserved for genuine fly casters, not the armchair "shags".

Sad really & I feel your pain Fenwick.

pleased I m not alone with my thoughts.

Taa

yes if I dont like then move on .

Not happy but realistic.

Cheers

I've had a few pretty ordinary days jigging these last few weeks & I know I'm not alone with that.

When I say ordinary, that sometimes means zilch, not what one would expect from a lake lite Rotoiti.

The pipes just one of those places you go for a yarn and to pass a couple of hours, much better "fly fishing" options around. 

Having said that, the odd occasion you fluke it and get there after rain and the locals aren't in residence is an exciting feeling haha.

Down next week to do some fishing.Casting is the only way to fish these i reckon nothing against heave and leave just not my cup of tea.

This is what happens when locals see trout as solely a "food source" not sport - they will catch and kill by any means for a feed, hence the huge problem with poaching in that area as well.

Same ilk as the locals who have an intimidation-based hold on the bridge pools of the Waitahanui and Tongariro.

From what I've seen, those types have no passion for the 'sport'/'pastime' of angling, and seem to get no joy out of hooking and landing one of the world's great sporting fish.

Just look at the gear they use, the way they kick their quarry up the beach, their lack of respect for the environment.

The chance of these people seeing the light is zero. Better to just seek out other areas.

I went back there last year having not been for many years. I was told to bring a "deck chair and warm clothes". 

Its not my scene....

I'm slightly offended by this comment...I'm curious to know what you mean by "locals"?  

I'm slightly offended by this comment...I'm curious to know what you mean by "locals"?  

With respect, and not wishing to cause further offence, can I suggest you look closely at the Second Schedule regional specific Eastern Region regulations that cover Rotorua lakes (not just the First Schedule which are non-specific general regulations).

In certain situations, such as use of gear and closed seasons, the Second Schedule overrules the non-regional conditions. 

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The Eastern Region regulations state:

Where (in the definitions section) it states: ...“Set rod” means any assembled rod that is not in physical contact with a licence holder when being used to fish for sports fish."

Those shore-based 'regulars' who fish at the Pipe, Ruato etc and wander away from their rods while their lines and lures are in the water are in clear breach of the specific regulations that cover Rotoiti. 

I've seen people casting out floating egg/glow bugs on spin gear from jetties at Tarawera and wandering back to their bach deck with a beer!

In terms of a call for some semblance of etiquette, I don't think it's fair that the regulars can claim a spot by staking a claim at 4.45am and never moving all day, or popping back to their camper for a cuppa or whatever and thinking a deck chair and rod left on the scene means their 'possession' is maintained. Sad if they think that is acceptable. 

Also, while Flyfisher can clarify his comment himself, I'm pretty sure his mention of poachers referring to the numerous reported cases of local people prosecuted for poaching using nets, spears etc on spawning tributaries in the area - not any inference about heave and leave. 

I believe it's good to have a robust discussion on issues such as those described by the original poster.

It was my intention to get a feel for the thoughts of my fellow anglers .

And hear both sides of the story.

Thanks to everyone .

As previously stated maybe a sign at these hot spots might remind all of the current rules and ethics of fishing .

No body wants to argue but just to have a fair go at catching a fish.

To much agro in todays world I think