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Forum Name: JetSki (PWC) fishing
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Printed Date: 30 Oct 2020 at 2:18am


Topic: Jet Ski Collars
Posted By: SkiDudes
Subject: Jet Ski Collars
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 7:32pm
Collars are now installed.  Tested yesterday on the Waikato river and ready to find some rough stuff in the weekend.



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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 9:20pm
Hey Chris, very interesting to see the addition of the collars.
Where did you get them and how much difference do they make to stability and fuel consumption??

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Tight lines
PE Pete


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 9:59pm
Thanks for posting SD. Were they easy to fit?


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 3:52am
Got them in from Australia, Jet Ski Fishing Mob.  Stability is much better and the ski feels especially stiff at my fishing cruise speed of 20 - 30 knots.  The manufacturers claim an increase in economy but I am sceptical about that because you can notice a bit of extra drag at low speed, won't know for sure until I go for a serious fish.


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 3:55am
They were a bit fidely to fit, took about 2 hrs plus for the first side but only an hour for the second side once I got myself sorted out.  The big test will be how durable they are with them being made of closed cell foam, they do have a substantial alluminium frame inside but I will need to look after them.


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2019 at 7:35pm
Gave the collars a serious work out today.  15 plus knots of wind over tide went right around Ponui Island so tried them out in all sea angles including the normal steep slop at the bottom end.

The extra stability at speed and when drifting is amazing.  I think the fuel consumption is slightly higher at speeds up to about 20 knots due to the extra drag in the water but over that there is no difference because only about the rear 50 cm is in contact with the water except in the rough.

 


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 11:51pm
Update
 
At this stage I can not recommend these collars. 
 
Performance is excellent but durability is a problem.  The manufacturer in Australia is good to deal with but it appears there is still development on going and I think they have come to market too soon.  They are now coating them in a poly-urea product which is sprayed on.  I have also had issues with the mounting bolts snapping once I got into some serious conditions.
 
I have some ideas about fixing the issues which I will have a go at but right now they are standing up in the corner of the shed.  Haven't given up on them yet.
 
 


Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2019 at 7:04am
Good to know, let us know how you get on..

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Tight lines
PE Pete


Posted By: Tyson22
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 4:50pm

A long story short. I took my son out fishing a few weeks back, we lost our balance for a slit second and came off the jet ski, he was fighting a tuna at the time and we just got a bit over excited. With the box on the back it took me few minutes to get back on to the jet ski. He got back on in a flash, but I had a bit of a struggle. This freaked him out totally. It was just too much weight for the VXR with fish box and the boy on the back. I decided to order a set of Jet Ski Collars and they will be arriving this week. I'm hoping they will work for us and get the boy back on the jet ski. Any tips on the fitment? Have you worked out why your tie down bolts snapped?   



Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 5:40pm
Sorry to hear they didn't work out for you SkiDudes, thanks for posting. I hope jetskifishingmob sorted you out . They seem reasonable in the correspondence I've had with them, but have a feeling they are selling prototypes rather than finished products, same with the pods that I nearly purchased. 

Tyson22, your capsize sucks, especially with your son on board. Glad you were both OK. 

Updates on the collars appreciated Smile


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:30pm
MightyBoosh is correct that what they are selling is more like a prototype than a finished product ready for market.

That said I still have not given up on them I just haven't had the time to sort things out. 

My initial thoughts on improvements are:

-Put in as many bolts as possible, more than what they recommend, especially towards the stern.
-Accept that they are not that robust so wave jumping at 25- 30 knots is out.  Don't go hard out.
- Look at getting them coated to make them more robust and last longer.
- I will consider cutting away part of the foam that angles down on the rear meter of the collar.  This is because when underway there is a huge amount of pressure created by the water coming off the ski contacting the collar.  If I can eliminate this I think I can prevent the bolts snapping.  Stability under way is not needed as much as when sitting still and the amount of reserve buoyancy is huge so loosing a bit shouldn't be an issue. 

They will certainly prevent your capsize situation in all but the most **** conditions. 

Hope this helps.


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:51pm
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Posted By: Tyson22
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 4:15pm

My Collars arrived on Wednesday neatly wrapped in bubble plastic and boxed up. The collars are completely covered in a rubber coating, the foam not visible at all. I installed them on Thursday, and it took me about three hours. The step by step installation video made it easy, Rikko recommended I use a tire jack to push the collars up before drilling the holes in the mounting bracket. This worked well. I had to redo some bolts and nuts as they seized up when I used a cordless screwdriver. (He did mention in the installation video not to use one) 

We took it for a run yesterday afternoon and they are amazing, I was surprised by the amount of stability and no problem getting on to the jet ski. We gave them a good run at speed and in chop, less water spray from the side and not as much lean in the turns. Massive improvements all round. The collars are a quality product that will make a huge difference in our families fishing expeditions.

I can only comment on my personal experience with this company. I spoke to them before placing an order and they were upfront and honest. Rikko checked back with me about four times while I was working on the installation and was very helpful and easy to deal with.





Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 7:36pm
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 6:13am
Hey Chris, did the supplier compensate you in any way given you are having to modify the product/use additional fixings etc?


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PE Pete


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 9:43am
No but thats the risk I took when purchasing from off shore, no consumer garantees act applies.


Posted By: Tyson22
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2019 at 4:43pm
 

Hey Chris, have you spoken to Rikko at all? I find it extremely hard to belief this is the same bloke I've been dealing with. He's very passionate about his Jet Ski Collars and it makes no sense that he will leave you hanging! 



Posted By: JFM_Aus
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2019 at 11:31pm
Just want to start by thanking all our customers for their ongoing support. Anyone that had dealings with us knows that my phone is on 24/7 and I'm always keen to help out. If you have a problem with our product then I'll recommend contacting me directly. It's in our best interest to insure our customers are well looked after. We have supplied over 100 sets of Jet Ski Collar in our first year and have a heap of satisfied customers all over the world.  
If you had dealings with me personally then you'll know I'll never leave you hanging. Yes, we have upgraded our fitment brackets and we have upgraded our Collars, they are covered in a thick rubber coating protecting them from wear and tear. Most of our upgrades was recommended by customers and we value any feedback (positive or negative). We are always looking for ways to improve our products. 

Chris I'm not upset with u mate, it's a fail on my side for not sorting you out. I've send you a few email since you bought our Collars and somehow must have missed the once that you were unsatisfied with our service. Your more than welcome to contact me directly and lets have a go at getting you sorted.

My Mobile: +61 423 422 309 
  


Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2019 at 7:16am
Reall well said...sounds like true customer support to me..

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Tight lines
PE Pete


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2019 at 12:29pm
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Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2019 at 5:05pm
Always good to hear that type of response @JFM_Aus - keep us posted on what changes and improvements you are making along the way.


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 8:37am
Any updates on the collars?


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 10:00pm
I think they you may have my old email. Vodafone desided to dump their email service and it has caused me a few issues.  I'll send them my new one.
 
No updates.  Still think they are a good concept and pleased to see others are enjoying their collars.


Posted By: Koza3001
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2020 at 5:33pm
Hey was thinking of purchasing some of these collars. I have a polaris tx virage jetski which isn't a late model but does the job...almost. I need something to keep more stable and for more buoyancy when fishing/ stationary codding not trolling. Can you reccomend this product? Are they universal to any jetski? Once they are fitted has anyone tried water sports with them on? As we currently water ski and wake board, but am thinking they may create too much drag?


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 10:15pm
If the ski has enough grunt to comfortably tow your water skier and/or wake board then the slight extra drag should not be an issue.  The extra stability will probably make for a more enjoyable day on the water.
 


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 11:07pm
If I don't buy a boat this year, the ski will get a makeover and jetski collars will be part of that if the feedback on the new improved version is good.


Posted By: Ecko
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 8:36am
MB into a boat? Would you keep the ski?


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 9:27am
Originally posted by Ecko Ecko wrote:

MB into a boat? Would you keep the ski?

That's the plan! I'd love to keep the ski for my short, early morning sessions where I want to get out and back fast. I'd really miss it if it was gone Cry

Boat for family trips, dive trips and longer days on the water. 

All finances and wife dependent! 


Posted By: Ecko
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 6:13pm
Fair enough! what are you looking at?


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 6:39pm
At the moment, an Innovision 555 hardtop. Maybe something smaller if bank manager and wife don't agree! In that case, either an Innovision or FC centre console.


Posted By: SkiDudes
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2020 at 2:27am
Like your thinking, I'm doing the same thing getting a boat again and looking to keep the ski. Both just do such different jobs.


Posted By: Ecko
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by MightyBoosh MightyBoosh wrote:

At the moment, an Innovision 555 hardtop. Maybe something smaller if bank manager and wife don't agree! In that case, either an Innovision or FC centre console.

I really like the look of the Innovisions but wasn't overly impressed when I saw them in person at the boat show. Haven't been in one so can't comment. 

A 555 HT would be a great rig though!


Posted By: Fishski
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2020 at 7:45am
Awesome to read about someone who has tried these collars and to get personal opinions on them. Was originally planning of getting a set of them but after reading this I have decided to get a set of PODSSKIS (side pods). Have ordered them from Brisbane so will keep an update of how my experience goes.


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2020 at 4:47pm
Please keep us posted.


Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2020 at 10:05pm
I mentioned these ages ago but didnt get a reply. Been around for a while now. This is one variety. There are the perm ones and the clip on ones. I prefer the pods, as they do away with the need for blocking up the rear entry (easiest place to enter for a diver), they add so much more ie aside from bigger chilly, live bair well, storage, whatever you can imagine. They clip on and off fairly easily, but impossible to unclip on water. Makes the jetski a trimaran I suppose haha.

These are one variant, but they cost a lot more than collars, there is a cheaper and imo better model, I forget its name

https://www.podsski.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.podsski.com/

To be honest if spearfishing, you only need somewhere to put your gun and gear (use an inflatable float and store fish directly to ski) and a fish chilly bag with a few bottles of frozen salt water or make your own bags of salt ice cubes (or pay for it).

If going fishing it probably is less of an issue the rear being blocked up, although I still like the platform the few times I have used a ski. So the collars are a cheaper alternative and spearing as long as the storage as enough space for float and you can strap your gun and fish bag down in the footwell, again the collars come out on top value for money imo.

I imagine it makes turning a bit stiffer op? but for that much more beam you have to expect some trade off.....


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2020 at 1:46pm
Any updates on the collars? I was hoping there would be an NZ distributor by now. Cheers.


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 8:48pm
Well, I went ahead and bought some collars. Good service from Rico. Good communication and advice. Brackets and fittings are fairly industrial, but they are all hidden away once the collars are fitted. The collars themselves are a little rough round the edges, but super tough. 

Fitting them wasn't quite as easy as Rico makes it looks in the videos due to my own retardedness! A little drama at times, but no total disasters. As has been said, the second side was easier/quicker than the first because you make all the mistakes the first time round! Proof is in the pudding, haven't got them on the water yet.

I have a few tips for anyone thinking of going down this route, let me know if interested. 

 


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2020 at 3:38pm
First outing today. I would say the collars are a game changer, plain and simple.


Posted By: cocolococo
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2020 at 10:00am
Originally posted by MightyBoosh MightyBoosh wrote:

First outing today. I would say the collars are a game changer, plain and simple.

Heya mate, anyway to chat with you even just facebook messanger? I am thinking to put the collars on my yamaha vx, just want to get some more feedbacks and informs before i go ahead.

i am in the NZ Jetskifishing Community Closed Group on facebook page.


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2020 at 2:01pm
Hi. I don't do facebook, sorry. Happy to chat on the forum here, or via PM. I'm online a lot of the time. In the meantime, I've been out with the collars a few times now and recommend them.




Posted By: cocolococo
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 10:15am
Originally posted by MightyBoosh MightyBoosh wrote:

Hi. I don't do facebook, sorry. Happy to chat on the forum here, or via PM. I'm online a lot of the time. In the meantime, I've been out with the collars a few times now and recommend them.



Ho, thanks for your reply, how robust these collars are? if someone accidentally stand on the collar while trying to board the gunnel is that going to break it?


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2020 at 12:45pm
I think standing on the collar while the ski is in the water would be OK, but it's not something I would want to happen while it's on the trailer. The collars are probably strong enough, but the fibreglass where the they are attached to the ski might not be. Not something I'm going to test. I just took the ski in for a service and detached the collars to be on the safe side. Once the bracket is installed, removing the collars is a little fiddly, but not difficult. 10x bolts on either side. 

Btw, I joined Facebook and your group just to see what was going on out there LOL


Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2020 at 3:08pm
I like the Safa JetSki pods more, gives a lot more storage for fish and or fuel, as a spearo I wouldnt want to block the easy access via the back with eskies and rod holders.

However they are not available in NZ so the collars look like the next best thing. Had a go on my mates and dang its stable as.



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