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So you want to be a fisherman?

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Topic: So you want to be a fisherman?
Posted By: smudge
Subject: So you want to be a fisherman?
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 6:49pm

OK, let's say you've decided that fishing is your thing. Assuming you have the basics, what are your 10 top picks for what will help you get the best out of your 'chosen thing'?

Here are mine:


1. You must have a bait freezer, if you don't fish baits you need somewhere to store your ice. An Ice maker is just OTT. I have one
2. Take lots of ice. 
3. Get yourself a couple of 90 litre chilly bins if you're a meat hunter like myself. We take one full of ice and another just for fish
4. Build yourself a decent filleting bench
5. Get 3 or 4 or more filleting knives. for years I used a 5" boning knife but a 23cm jobbie saves you lots of spine spikes. I have heaps of knives now
6. Learn to sharpen your knives, they are never too sharp
7. Go to Mitre 10 and get a pair of Fuller pro long nose pliers with the red handles. They will go rusty but won't seize up if you give them a little CRC once in a while. They are great for unhooking fish
8. Buy circle hooks and learn how to use them
9. Get a beer fridge, the biggest you can get. Great for storing your catch and most wives are likely to be happier if you buy a 'beer fridge' than somewhere to keep your dead creatures

!0. Get an iki stick and learn how to use it

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Replies:
Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 7:09pm
Your wisdom astonishes me at times Obi1. Good advice.


Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 8:39pm
You know I don't buy the whole need for fish filleting station, especially outside or in some garage or shed. For a couple of reasons. One being you spend all that time and money on icing down a fresh fish in perfect nick that really is now going to be filleted on some dirty bench. It should be done in a nice clean kitchen as a chef would do as you are dealing with high value produce. Seen some shocking filleting "benches" in my time I wouldn't put my dog meat on. 

Do us a photo Smudge lets see how bad ass your one is. No cleaning it down before hand just go do it!  LOL


Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 8:54pm
For filleting, I have a timber bench and sink outside. I don't fillet directly on the bench. I keep offcuts of ply and seratone sheets, about 600 x 600 that go under the fish. Once they've got a few cuts n scrape's on them, on the burn pile they go.


Posted By: Spudnik
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:08pm
Do plenty of recon at your chosen fishing grounds. If you didn't catch anything the first time, doesn't mean you won't catch fish on a different tide/conditions/lure/bait/time of day etc.


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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by kitno kitno wrote:

Your wisdom astonishes me at times Obi1. Good advice.

Likewise Kitno. You are a true fisherman indeed.



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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

You know I don't buy the whole need for fish filleting station, especially outside or in some garage or shed. For a couple of reasons. One being you spend all that time and money on icing down a fresh fish in perfect nick that really is now going to be filleted on some dirty bench. It should be done in a nice clean kitchen as a chef would do as you are dealing with high value produce. Seen some shocking filleting "benches" in my time I wouldn't put my dog meat on. 

Do us a photo Smudge lets see how bad ass your one is. No cleaning it down before hand just go do it!  LOL

Great call Muppet. I will go take a pic now


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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:24pm
Here we go Muppet


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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by Spudnik Spudnik wrote:

Do plenty of recon at your chosen fishing grounds. If you didn't catch anything the first time, doesn't mean you won't catch fish on a different tide/conditions/lure/bait/time of day etc.

Spudnik, I agree! If you have faith in a spot for whatever reason don't give up on it. I like to give out advice to true your tried and true then try somewhere totally random so you build a picture over years


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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Here we go Muppet

I also do some home kill and deer shooting. The ss top lifts off and there is a heavy duty board spanning the whole top for processing those animals. An addition I'm planning is a side tray for the fillets and wheels so it's easier to move top the chiller


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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:40pm
I better add that bench was inspired by Tzer, one of the fussier (in a very good way)guys I've had the pleasure to fillet with. 

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Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:02pm
You say buy circle hooks and learn how to use them.
This has got me going round in circles.

Would you use them on live baits.?

I used Mustard Demon circles on live baits last week as that was all i had.

Managed a 4lb J.D.
But second fish ,much larger, the hook pulled after 40 minutes. This thing kept circling the boat ,but when the line angle changed and was pretty well straight down and trying to get to the bottom toward the end of the battle as it tired ,the hook pulled out. Wrong hook or just the way it happens sometimes.?
Assumed it was a kingi,but not sighted.




Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by cirrus cirrus wrote:

You say buy circle hooks and learn how to use them.
This has got me going round in circles.

Would you use them on live baits.?

I used Mustard Demon circles on live baits last week as that was all i had.

Managed a 4lb J.D.
But second fish ,much larger, the hook pulled after 40 minutes. This thing kept circling the boat ,but when the line angle changed and was pretty well straight down and trying to get to the bottom toward the end of the battle as it tired ,the hook pulled out. Wrong hook or just the way it happens sometimes.?
Assumed it was a kingi,but not sighted.



There's no magic answer Cirrus it just happens sometimes. you can't predict exactly where or how a fish is hooked. Arron has had a bad run on kings at the moment. A return to circle hooks will see him right. Nothing wrong with the hooks he's using it is just not working for him.


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Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:23pm
Thanks Smudge. So circles should be as good as any hook for livies.
Cant see why not. Pretty sure it was a good kingi. Could feel the tail thrusts,a bit of head shaking,circling the boat , stayed at constant depth and some fast blinding runs at first.
Nothing worse than having a good fish and losing it just before it comes into sight,and therefore not really knowing what it was.


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:32pm
?////try bridle rigging the livie cirrus. Having a big bait close to the gape of a circle hook doesn't usually end well

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Posted By: Snappa Geoff
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2019 at 7:13am
I could add another ten but that would be giving away all my secrets! Spend less on bait and learn how to catch it fresh when your out.


Posted By: Spudnik
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2019 at 7:44am
Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by Spudnik Spudnik wrote:

Do plenty of recon at your chosen fishing grounds. If you didn't catch anything the first time, doesn't mean you won't catch fish on a different tide/conditions/lure/bait/time of day etc.

Spudnik, I agree! If you have faith in a spot for whatever reason don't give up on it. I like to give out advice to true your tried and true then try somewhere totally random so you build a picture over years


Or even a fishing method. I bought some softbait gear a couple of years ago to have a go with, and it took me 6 - 9 months (of sporadic fishing admittedly) to work out how to use it properly and start regularly catching fish with it.

It paid off too because 90% of the time I catch more fish than the bait fishos on the boat LOL


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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2019 at 7:55am
A tick in every box, thu will have to upgrade my main fish bin...and have a separate little chilly bin for bait / burley.

 Knives.. yep GOOD knives a MUST, espec when have a bin full. And sharpen.. to be able to do so  so that after a filleting 25/30 good fish, the full length of the blade still slices  and sharp enough that still digs in on the thumb nail like a good fish hook.
Convex edge is secret to that.

As to filleting bench.. cant go past  being inside on a cold winters evening....Stainless with good solid chopping boards.
 They are easy to keep clean and the fish up out of crap.. guts etc.. and the height makes side cuts easy.
A discarded neighbours kitchen carcass with bentch on top.
 Cupboards and draws store all your trace making, sinkers/ gear etc

No need to hook up the water taps, far better is a hose from a nearby tap.. as they doing commercial set ups



Also showing collected KY , trev, mullet frames partly thawing to put thru the burley maker (multcher)




Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2019 at 2:28pm
I don't keep bait with my catch, I use a smaller bin for the bait

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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2019 at 5:00pm
Yep so do we.. except my small 25L chilly bin is on its last legs now.. and seems the red shed doesnt stock them any more.

 Was ideal.. 3 or 4 burleys in the bottom and packs of bait in zip bags on top


Posted By: Smelt4Bait
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 9:45am
For fish cleaning, find an old ironing board in the trash, remove the cloth cover and use it out back away from the house. When done, rinse, fold it up and lean it up against the fence or garage.

Circle hooks work great but you need to fish them right. When you get hit do NOT set the hook. Let it run for 3 to 5 seconds, then click the bail, tighten up and your on! Fight as normal and the hook should be set firmly in the corner of the mouth.
 
Erik


Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 1:14pm
After watching a number of boats "fishing" yesterday I think they need a good read of the site. Lifeless rods but surrounded in fish and not catching. 


Posted By: braveintranets
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:49pm
Very nice input. Just want to contribute my 2cents

If you know where youre going to fish, go there in advance and ask people what theyre using. Most folks, and especially older folks, love to give tips and usually know all the good spots.




Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 5:37pm
Your list pretty much covers my arrangement, with an improved filleting station my next to do.
With regards to the fish ("beer") fridge, temperature is a critical factor. You want it set as close to 0c as possible without freezing the fish. This can literally double the shelf life of fish.
If left whole I can fillet fish after 10 days & it is almost impossible to tell that it is old.


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by The cook The cook wrote:

Your list pretty much covers my arrangement, with an improved filleting station my next to do.
With regards to the fish ("beer") fridge, temperature is a critical factor. You want it set as close to 0c as possible without freezing the fish. This can literally double the shelf life of fish.
If left whole I can fillet fish after 10 days & it is almost impossible to tell that it is old.

That's impressive. I've heard before to keep fish at 1 degree for max life, your post endorses that.


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Posted By: RaggedJoe
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 8:30am
Folding filleting table from "Container Door .com" has been great for me. Good height and easy to store. Separate varnished ply board on the table for cutting on, easy rinse. The tap is useless, but hose does the job fine. Fillet in the shade outside, Labrador gets first snapper head to keep her quiet for 10 minutes, then a few trimmings as I go. :-)



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