80W, 50W or Talica 50????
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Topic: 80W, 50W or Talica 50????
Posted By: MacMassive
Subject: 80W, 50W or Talica 50????
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 5:12pm
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Gents, I'm looking to get into game fishing and want to buy 4 setups to target marlin and tuna out of Auckland and up the east coast. I don't have a game chair so it will be all standup, out of a Genesis 400 targa. Can I get some opinions please on 50w, 80w or Talica 50? Also bent Butt or straight? Any advice would be gold, thanks.
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Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 5:23pm
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Having had 80s,50s a 30w a talica 50 and a 20 my current thinking is tiagra 50a is the way to go - 950m of braid and a 50 - 100m topshot . Very reasonably priced reel as well , about $670 .
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 7:49pm
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Everol game reels arrive at Gofish very soon might be worth a look.
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Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 8:52pm
Legacy wrote:
Having had 80s,50s a 30w a talica 50 and a 20 my current thinking is tiagra 50a is the way to go - 950m of braid and a 50 - 100m topshot . Very reasonably priced reel as well , about $670 . |
That's a very good idea, I have a similar set-up with a 50S international. Heaps of line capacity and easy to handle.
there is lots of talk about Talica, Rachets not being very loud. You don't need anything more sophisticated than an International or tiagra for trolling, and they have nice loud rachets.
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Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 6:26am
I totally agree with Legacy and Bigfishbob, from what I have seen in hear for repairs lately Sorry I do not rate the Talica 50 reels, much better with Tiagra 50 or Penn 50 , built to last and nice loud clickers,both hold 900 m of holllow braid and mono top shot of your choice , anyway time will tell, good luck out there guys, Merry Xmas Swordfishsteve 
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Posted By: bite
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 8:42am
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lol some pretty all power full people going for the 50 wides
what about the new narrow spool penns  i love the narrow spool concept for ease of keeping an even spool especially with braid
remember if u go 80 lb orb 130lb braid you are going to need at least 80 lb stand up rods
and i believe with stand up bent butts are the way to go with rods
what ever u do 80 or 130 line weight is the way to go don't play round trying to be a trout fishing man playing with light weight silly string
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Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 9:32am
bite wrote:
lol some pretty all power full people going for the 50 wides
what about the new narrow spool penns  i love the narrow spool concept for ease of keeping an even spool especially with braid
remember if u go 80 lb orb 130lb braid you are going to need at least 80 lb stand up rods
and i believe with stand up bent butts are the way to go with rods
what ever u do 80 or 130 line weight is the way to go don't play round trying to be a trout fishing man playing with light weight silly string
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Not sure about being powerful, but I was was talking about 50 narrow spools, that's what a 50S is. 
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Posted By: bite
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 10:33am
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lets say people who should know what they are talking about ,
i have my ideas of the perfect stand up outfit
its bent butt top line rod and penn 50s
until the penn 50s is proven otherwise , ??????
loaded up with top grade 130 ib , hollow core
i always try to keep an open mind
question, does the penn 50s hold more braid than the shimano talica 50
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Posted By: bite
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 11:47am
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ok reels and line out of the way
RODS
bent butt stand up with rollers or eyes
then the question is
is it an eye or a roller on the tip
me i am not a fan of rollers, so would love to try out a quality rod with top of the line eyes all the way ??? i do twist to a roller tip a wee bit lol
i see im our fair country , both shimano and penns top end stuff is rollers with there second line being eyes and roller tipped
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Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 12:58pm
bite wrote:
ok reels and line out of the way
RODS
bent butt stand up with rollers or eyes
then the question is
is it an eye or a roller on the tip
me i am not a fan of rollers, so would love to try out a quality rod with top of the line eyes all the way ??? i do twist to a roller tip a wee bit lol
i see im our fair country , both shimano and penns top end stuff is rollers with there second line being eyes and roller tipped
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I have built all mine with Rollers about 10-15 years ago. These days a lot of people use Silicone carbonite or ceramic guides and roller tips, I'd do the same if I built any more rods. Roller tips are good for prevent line wear from trolling due to tip wiggle.
All my Rods have straight buts, but can see the benefits of bent butts for deep fishing like broad bill, and also keeping the tips of corner rods low. I'd stay with Straight butts. I also make the butts on my rods really short as well, 10-11" from edge of reel seat to the end of the gimbal. keeps the reel low which I find helpful.
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Posted By: coolsilver
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 2:36pm
Hi
I have 2 Talica 50's and 2 25's , What have you heard going wrong with the as I had a little issue with my 25 a couple of weeks ago but shimano couldnt fault it
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Posted By: RAMCO600
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 2:50pm
Posted By: bite
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 2:59pm
coolsilver wrote:
Hi
I have 2 Talica 50's and 2 25's , What have you heard going wrong with the as I had a little issue with my 25 a couple of weeks ago but shimano couldn't fault it |
yes on the thinking and looking at the talicas combo of 50 and the 25 is a interesting combo
i do love the talicas but the penns are the new kid and i would like to have a play with the penns and the talicas
i have no idea as i have no working knowledge of the talicas but maybe the clickers are not to hot , but steve does like his penns 
anyway as i have not seen a penn 50s yet, but my reasoning on very rough numbers was i seemed to think the new penn had more line capacity than the talica maybe a 100 or 150 or so , my numbers may be wrong
thanks for that bigfishbob i believe if you can the guides are the way to go with top end blanks and roller tip
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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 4:31pm
My20 year old Duel 6/0 2 speed is still my favourite even though the handle isn't as ergonometric as the newer handles. Recently serviced by sworfishsteve) Takes 1000 metres of 80 lb Tasline hollow. That reverse wind low-speed is still magic on a tough fight! I also have CD + Killwell 37 kg rods and have both straight and bent butts (but not interchangeable. Anyone still using 15 kg??
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Posted By: coolsilver
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 5:32pm
but the line breaks on yours
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Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 6:06pm
swordfishsteve wrote:
I totally agree with Legacy and Bigfishbob, from what I have seen in hear for repairs lately Sorry I do not rate the Talica 50 reels, much better with Tiagra 50 or PeSwordfishsteve
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What have you seen and heard re repairs there steve?
You of all people know I have seen and serviced 100's and I can with 100 percent truth that I havent seen or heard any faults what so ever. Including Tony Ortons charter reels and a few mates of mine that have caught 20+ marlin on the one reel last season. Also dealt to some sword fish with no need of any parts replacement. In fact the only issue I have had with a Talica 50 is due to someone pulling it apart that had no idea what they were doing and damaged the fins on the anti reverse when they attempted to put it back together. Then made a song and dance about it.
From a service point of view - I rate them extremely highly, They do not have as loud a clicker as a Tiagra that is fact. But it is loud enough to hear, Its a different design that is fact.
Everything else I seem to be reading re Talica 50s is hearsay
They are a perfect reel for filling with hollow braid and top shotting, for marlin / tuna / swords or fishing 15kg. I troll with mine and I can definitely hear the clicker no problem at all even when cranking the sounds.
But to answer your question All options you are looking at will be suitable and it will come down to personal preference, I run a set of talica 50s filled with 80lb hollowcore power pro braid, top shotted with 24kg. I also have a set of tiagra 30ws And both are perfect for what I wanted to do. Light and easy to handle,
Disclaimer - I was the Shimano service manager for 7 years
Cheers
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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2017 at 9:22pm
coolsilver wrote:
but the line breaks on yours
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Posted By: BeastMode
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2017 at 1:22pm
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No clarification on issues found with Talica 50's?
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Posted By: bite
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2017 at 6:39pm
Zero wrote:
No clarification on issues found with Talica 50's? |
non that stand out the reel maintenance guys on here say they are sweet as , except the clicker may or not be as load as the tiagras which what i think have heard before
so for the gent that started this post buy talica 50s i would load with 130 , or 80 lb braid and top shot with a 100 or 50 meters of 130 or 80 lb mono , but mono is fine ordo what the shimano bloke says buy 2 talicas and 2 tiagra 30s or 50 wides always buy twin speeds
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2017 at 6:55pm
swordfishsteve wrote:
I totally agree with Legacy and Bigfishbob, from what I have seen in hear for repairs lately Sorry I do not rate the Talica Swordfishsteve
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Irony........Trolling in a trolling reel discussion
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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2017 at 7:00pm
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Irony........Trolling in a trolling reel discussion [/QUOTE]
Your point being Jason?
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2017 at 7:32pm
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Nice to see you post with out a "cut and paste" Al.
Not sure I can be anymore explicit, there is no simpler way to state the patently obvious
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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2017 at 9:20pm
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Presume no fisho respects your words except your own.
Stralya lookin afta ya friend?
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2017 at 10:23pm
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It is
I cant make sense of what you have written?
My perception is that SFS probably has a wry grin when he pokes the Shimano guys.
From my own experience, My Talica ( purchased out of the states prior to release in NZ) is still going strong, has caused no issues, and works as designed.
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 1:49pm
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Ive had a handle come loose on one Talica and thats it.
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 4:09pm
Ha having a read quite funny.
Either way if anyone is looking at a new game reel Gofish has the Everols in now. And they are beauties too in all shapes and sizes it's a shame Greg has not posted on here but I know he is not that way inclined. Anyway I don't think it will hurt to take a gander for the game fisho might tickle your fancy.
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Posted By: Steber17
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2018 at 11:16pm
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A 50W Tiagra will handle just about anything, I dont like bent sticks but thats me good for chairs or the not so strong .
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