Light Set-Ups (Multi Purpose?)
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
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Topic: Light Set-Ups (Multi Purpose?)
Posted By: S-Ray
Subject: Light Set-Ups (Multi Purpose?)
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 11:59am
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Hi, Thinking about getting a light set up for top water, say Twin Power 5-8k HG or similar, and a PE-3 to 5 rod. Don't expect to be able to stop huge fish with it.
Just seeing if many people are using these (and if so what combination of rod and reel), and would they also double up for Big Snapper/Stray Line set up and or Medium Livebait set up as well? Just looking for something which can be useful for other types of fishing if there is no top water action around. Cheers |
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 2:08pm
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I've been toying with doing the same, would run it as a PE3 set. The new Twinpower XD 5000XG looks awesome with decent drag and retrieve. I'd love to get a Synit X24 or Yamaga Blanks Blue Sniper 79/3 to pair it with. ------------- 6.7m Surtees PureFisher - "Kraken" |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 2:23pm
| Smith GTK or Synit Baycaster are both exceptional light top water rods |
Posted By: CoastalStan
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 3:19pm
| I have a couple that I use for big Kahawai and small Kings, 1 is a Twinpower 5000 and other is a Stella 6000. Both are on Shimano Ocea 732 30-40lb rods. Great fun casting into boil ups out at the Mokes. I am always casting sinking stickbaits and prefer the Nomad Madscads. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 3:30pm
OR Synit Van Dieman 3-5  -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Structfab wrote:Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 5:43pm
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Twinpower 6000hg, Mc Works strange blue pe 2-3. Soo much fun on smaller Kings and stray lining snaps 😊 |
Posted By: nzfishwhisperer
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 7:28pm
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I've been using the Penn Ocean Assassin rod 7'4 PE 2-4 with the Penn Slammer III 4500 - it's an epic little combo for throwing little stick baits for Kings, real nice action and also use for Straylining... The Assassin's great for casting as it has over sized guides and the little 4500 Slammer has 15kilos of drag - I've also dropped down to the 3500 for a bit of fun on the Kings which also has 15kilos of drag... It's great fun alright have caught some nice 10-15kilo Kings on it...    |
Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 8:21am
 Strange blue 913 in action |
Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 8:45am
Hey Sam have sent you a PM mate. ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |
Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 10:05am
| I use Yamaga Blue sniper 77/3 Pe 2 -3 20 - 60gm and Yamaga bluesniper 100m Pe 1.5 - 3 jig 80gm plug 50 gm for shore jigging. Just switch the reel between two rods as its got Pe3 on it .so practical for either scenario |
Posted By: S-Ray
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 9:52am
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Thanks Guys - looks some good options there and the setup would have plenty of uses. |
Posted By: S-Ray
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 9:53am
| Some nice rod action there, I guess the larger guides are useful for the leader to flow through easily, do most stick bait rods have large guides? |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 10:16am
Awesome work off the rocks, looks like a top spot. Does the 91 mean it's 9' long? And can I ask what the V-shaped black object is above your hands?
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Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 10:50am
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9 ft long yes The v shape is a 'land based buddy' rod holder. These allow you to set yr rod down without putting rod or reel on rocks. In theory anyway. They can be a bit of a pain when casting sometimes but overall I find useful. |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 11:16am
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thanks for the reply, mate. Looks like a nice rod for off the shore. I bought one of those short NZ-made rock rod holders which wedge into crevasses in the rocks, and it seems to work okay with a stick bait rod when I need a break from casting, or need to put the rod down for some reason.  |
Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 12:05pm
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That looks ideal. Braid some times get caught in v thing. Rod is probably a bit extravagant for off the rocks but got it at a good price from x forum member returning to Japan. Lighter set ups are certainly a buzz and test the angler and more than often result in bust offs especially on mid to bigger kings. |
Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 12:09pm
 This was fish landed from bendo pic |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 1:44pm
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That's a beaut anywhere, let alone off the rocks. Well done. That 9' rod would be awesome for casting lures at some of the clean sand harbour entrances up north, and in some of the many harbour flats and estuary systems where kingies lurk. I'm trying to give that sort of fishing a real go, using light top water lures, and 30 or 50lb braid. It seems to be a case of being in the right place at the right time, and I often don't get any customers. But when i get one, it's so rewarding.
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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 7:03pm
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I reckon you wont regret it S ray. I love my Yamaga 75/4 matched with a Saragosa 6000. Nice and light to cast and has handled kingis to 15kg so far. Would be a good stick for lobbing big baits too although I haven't tried this myself. ------------- It aint no use if it aint chartreuse! |
Posted By: S-Ray
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2017 at 12:23pm
| I think its a must after seeing the pics and setups you guys are using. Cheers for your help. |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2017 at 1:29pm
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I'd love a high end Japanese rod, but if you are working at the more budget end of the spectrum - like I am - there are options in that 15kg long spin rod market which are workable. I've got an 8'4" Shimano Jungle Stix - I think it's discontinued in NZ now - which is fine for lighter shoreline-based lure casting. I match it with a Daiwa BG5000H which has a high speed retrieve, and reasonable drag.
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Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 4:05pm
| I'm in the same boat and looking at getting a 9ft6 yamaga rod with stradic/stella 5000 used for heavier shore jigging small stickbaits, for around the sand flats, looks like heaps of fun |
Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 7:33pm
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Good thread been talking about doing this for a couple of seasons. Might be time to do something about it. Mm more TAS🤣 ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 10:56pm
I was in Rod & Reel at the fly fishing expo and got looking at long pe2-3 rods as well, rude not to in a shop like that. The guy working there who i spoke to said he'd advise against using one of the lighter 'shore jigging' rods for top water. Not the right action, he reckons. I guess shore jigging is a particular kind of fishing they do in Japan and other parts of Asia that we don't do. BUT, one of the guys on Morning Tide (check it out on youTube if you haven't already) uses that 95H Blue Sniper 'Extreme Shore Jigging' 20-60lb rod (sounds like the one you may be eyeing up) for land-based pelagic fishing in Australia. Seems to go okay, but it's a bit heavier than a light set up, designed for 60-150g jigs. I'm thinking light is 30-70g lures, like the GT icecream in 1.5oz, the little StrikePro skidding popper, some of the light sinking stickbaits - Nomad Madscad in 115mm.
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Posted By: LBGer
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 9:16pm
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I have a 7'6" Braid Concept rod and Shimano Biomaster 6000xg, max drag 13kg. Rod is rated for 10-15kg+ line but I have run 10kg of drag over it without grimacing. Light and great for smaller kings and snaps etc.. Re SHore Based rod, I have a 9'8" jigging master which I have used for stickbaiting. Its true the action is different from a proper stickbait rod but you can learn to work the lure so it swims well.....if you want an all rounder... ------------- A king on the bricks is worth 5 in a boat. |
Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 10:20pm
Ha, yeah man morning tide got me on to the whole idea in the first place after watching them fishing the flats with Milan using tiny gear, it's quite hard to find a pe2 9ft6 stick bait rod as Ive found out, so it's really going to have to be either build one if I can find a blank or use a shore jig rod and do my best |
Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 10:35pm
| Have a look at Zenaq Muthos range bro. Fishhead in australia are stocl agent. Thats what Brooksy uses |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 6:39am
What a few weeks mate, have a shore jigging rod arriving at 9ft 2in. that you can try out ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 6:43am
Sweet will Do, Im going to gold coast over Christmas and have a fish head visit booked in! Such a cool shop |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 6:45am
Like a big kid in a candy shop. Nice You caught anything on the Stella yet Terry? ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 7:40am
Ha not yet, I've got the next two weeks off to myself though so will be casting till my arms fall off, |