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Topic: New PENN International reels (Gold only)Posted By: nzfishwhisperer
Subject: New PENN International reels (Gold only)
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 11:37am
How sexy and cool do the new PENN Internationals look - updated and looking smart and best thing is they still come out of the good ole USA
Replies: Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 12:23pm
These look awesome, the handle upgrade is very much needed. Weight of the 50w looks awesome as well, 500g lighter than a 50w Tiagra if the specs are to be believed! When will they be hitting NZ?
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Posted By: nzfishwhisperer
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 3:26pm
Stonefish wrote:
These look awesome, the handle upgrade is very much needed. Weight of the 50w looks awesome as well, 500g lighter than a 50w Tiagra if the specs are to be believed! When will they be hitting NZ?
Yes it's all looking good - they will be available early to mid next month...
Posted By: huntaway.tom
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 9:20pm
Why arent the X models pushed hard in shops as an altenative to a talica? i have never seen one in a shop before. i think they have the potential to really take off as some people just dont like buying shimano
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 9:38pm
Good to see some Tiagra styling in there LOL
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:25pm
Nice Jas, some real innovation. The drag position using pulled makes sense and a really significant range. Will we see the entire range here?
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Posted By: widerange
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:08am
have they worked out how to make a clicker that works yet?
Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:08am
We will be doing a full write up on these shortly, as Jas indicates will be available next month in NZ.
Widerange if you have an issue with your Old PENN International clicker then best to bring it in for a service and for sure we can make your clicker loud and working. Seam to remember it worked fine on your Huge Swordfish a few years back?
cheers swordfishsteve
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Posted By: nzfishwhisperer
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:09am
PE Pete wrote:
Nice Jas, some real innovation. The drag position using pulled makes sense and a really significant range. Will we see the entire range here?
Hi PE Pete - not the full range but we will be running the Gold's here in the below mods - the silver looks great to but no plans for these to be run....
INT12VISX
INTERNATIONAL 12VISX REEL GLD
INT16VIS
INTERNATIONAL 16VIS REEL GLD
INT16VISX
INTERNATIONAL 16VISX REEL GLD
INT30VISW
INTERNATIONAL 30VISW REEL GLD
INT20VISX
INTERNATIONAL 20VISX REEL GLD
INT30VISX
INTERNATIONAL 30VISX REEL GLD
INT50VISW
INTERNATIONAL 50VISW REEL GLD
INT50VISX
INTERNATIONAL 50VISX REEL GLD
INT70VIS
INTERNATIONAL 70VIS REEL GLD
INT80VISW
INTERNATIONAL 80VISW REEL GLD
INT130VIS
INTERNATIONAL 130VIS REEL GLD
Posted By: nzfishwhisperer
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:25am
huntaway.tom wrote:
Why arent the X models pushed hard in shops as an altenative to a talica? i have never seen one in a shop before. i think they have the potential to really take off as some people just dont like buying shimano
Hi ht - yip I hear ya
With these new mod's coming out I am pushing for a lot more marketing here in NZ on them. The X mod's have always taken the back seat to the SW's to being wider etc but I'm getting myself the little 12 and 20 VISX I do love them....
Posted By: widerange
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 8:10am
Hey Steve, Na that clicker has never worker during my ownership of the reel seem to remember we've laughed about it before but despite services and "blue printing"...it's still crap I've got a vxs? 50 (don't know if you've had that for a service)which has an equally ineffective clicker so assumed it's how they are. As I caught that"huge sword" on a daytime drop the clicker wasn't used as it's more about getting tight after a bite. I like my penn inters but tend to use them for bottom fishing more than trolling because of this issue if it makes you feel better my experience of talicas is that they have a pretty crap clicker too,although they are just quiet.the switch doesn't jump out and disengage when an angry fish is pulling string. Sooo, have they put a decent clicker on the new models?
Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 12:33pm
Paul , we can do a couple of things to reduce the clicker shaft bouncing effect when loosing line rapidly, clicker plunger moves out and occasionally turns off, so we can reduce the travel of clicker and fit heavier return spring, drop your reel off sometime and I will do this modification for free.
As for the New Penn VI series , I have not seen inside one yet, however had a good look over one yesterday and they appear to be a totally new engineered reel, so let's hope Penn have address the clicker issue, I will have stock of these in about a weeks time, so will strip one down for inspection and full report then.
As for your Talica Clicker crap issue , best to return to Shimano NZ for a warranty claim.
cheers swordfishsteve
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Posted By: GSPOT
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 1:20pm
HAHAHAHAHA
So what you are saying Steve is Paul should see a Dr for his hearing loss and dementia as he can't here the clicker on the occasions he does remember to turn it on.
"Don't take offence guys it is just me being my normal c#nty self, you will get used to it."
Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 8:02am
Ok guys, I have a new Penn 50 VISW here for anyone interested to have a look and play with, will strip and report shortly, they certainly feel different and 20% lighter than previous model, would think they will fit in well with Gamefishing season not far away, anyone looking for new game reels should seriously consider these as an option, cheers swordfishsteve
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Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 4:43pm
Here is image of my stock reel, soon to be stripped:
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 5:19pm
Reel porn. Interesting looking handle👍
------------- Tight lines PE Pete
Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 6:52pm
Hey Pete, yes it is a very comfortable handle knob, see more info here On Trade me here:https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1407256872
My intention is to Inform Not offend, so please no crap throwing
cheers swordfishsteve
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Posted By: Tonyg26
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 7:19am
Hi Steve, Any upgrades or changed with the internals/drag? Or mainly just a facelift change with a new handle?
If you do a write up id been keen to chuck it in our fishing club newsletter as a few of the non computer savvy members would be interested in a read.
Cheers Tony, WSFC
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 10:45am
Tonyg26 wrote:
Hi Steve, Any upgrades or changed with the internals/drag? Or mainly just a facelift change with a new handle?
If you do a write up id been keen to chuck it in our fishing club newsletter as a few of the non computer savvy members would be interested in a read.
Cheers Tony, WSFC
Prettttttty sure these new ones use a thrust bearing assembly (a la Okuma Makaira) to eliminate lateral loads on the pinion bearing, meaning you can run tons of drag and not have the handle get stiff or crush the pinion bearing in short order.
Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 8:16am
Hey Guys
So we had a look inside the New Penn 50 VISW reel yesterday, very interesting changes with many New Design features including New Clicker Design, New Design Quick Shift II, New Design Longer Handle crank arm and Ergonomic T Bar Knob, New Pull Bar Twin Dura Drag Sealed System, New Design Double Dog Silent Anti Reverse, 12% Lighter, New Design Adjustable Strike Stop, New design Harness Lugs & Line Capacity Rings on Spool.
Not using thrust bearing ( Makaira)
Call in for a look if anyone interested in feeling the differences, cheers swordfishsteve
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Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 9:18am
Which style silent anti-reverse are they using? Eared dogs or using the actuator/spring thing off the drive shaft?
Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2017 at 9:01am
Rozboon
Ok for the silent anti reverse system they are using 2 x eared dogs with small small spring assist to ensure solid connection with ratchet plate teeth, looks solid however I would have preferred to see a big anti reverse bearing and sealed handle shaft like Alutecnos have used for years with no issues , time will tell. cheers for your interest guys Swordfishsteve
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Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 9:57am
Ok see this U tube link for more info:
https://youtu.be/_lvgcLbmLD8
hope this info help anyone interested in the new Penn VI series reels, call in for a look at Reelrepairguy Auckland or call me 021 975 471 anytime, cheers swordfishsteve
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Posted By: nzfishwhisperer
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 3:35pm
Great catch up with Swordfish Steve (reel repair guy) - Steve popped into work with a new 50VISW pulled apart so we put this little vid together.
Steve goes over the internals of the new International reels as he puts the new 50VISW back together.....
I've just brought myself the little 12VISX and can't wait to get out and give it run through it's paces - also will be purchasing a 20VISX in hope Steve can get me hooked up to a Marlin or two this season maybe even a Sword - That'll put it to the test ...
Cheers guys hope you enjoyed and given you a few answers on them...
Posted By: widerange
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 5:42pm
It seems the answer to my question is,Yes
Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 8:33am
Widerange, Yes the New Penn 50 VI series reel does have a New Design Clicker, so yes yes yes, time for you to upgrade those old Tiagras eh?
cheers for all your interest guys, roll on summer, sick of this **** rain! swordfishsteve
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Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 8:45am
Time for a bump as the new season Marlin approach our coastline once again, call in for a look at the New Penn 50 VISW, www.reelrepairguy.co.nz
cheers swordfishsteve
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Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2017 at 6:46am
Bumpy bump
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Posted By: rykk
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2024 at 6:01pm
Hi - I know this is an old thread, but relevant to me :-). I am looking to replace a Shimano Talica 10 that I lost to a suspected shark while LBG fishing. Wanting to move up to a reel that has broad capability, but mostly for kingi's, both off boat and from rocks. Live bait from rocks or boat, jigging from boat, some casting.
Considering Penn 12VISX, Talica 16ii, Okuma Makaira, Accurate, Avet. What has your experience been with 12VISX?
rykk
Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2024 at 7:59pm
Why not try the Talica 16? Just sold my Makairs 20ii based on weight.
Posted By: rykk
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2024 at 5:35pm
Hi Jac - I am actually leaning that way. Am looking at the Makaira 15T SEA - it is very comparable to the Talica 16ii, 2 speed, 40lb drag, 450yds of 80lb braid. The Talica is 25.6oz to the okuma at 29oz. I think the Talica is a great reel, but wanted to try something different and the Mak 15T does get good reviews. Gear ratios are a difference - Talica is 5.7/3.1, Mak is 4.7/2.1. The Talica is a bit more expensive (for the new 2023 model).
Marine Deals does have a good price on the previous generation Talica 16ii, but I understand that the new model has better bearings, better drag.
Posted By: BotStomper
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2024 at 12:56pm
I have a 15T, you could jig with it in a pinch but it's quite big and heavy for a jigging reel. For me it is a dedicated livebait set and it does an excellent job of that.
Talica 16 is too wide for jigging.
I'd look at a Makaira 10.
Posted By: rykk
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2024 at 1:20pm
Thanks for response. I do have a dedicated jigging rig - a Catch JCX3000 on a Catch Kensai rod. This new rig would be more for livebaiting and maybe some light trolling. Found a good deal on the 15T. Think I would like to try it as something different from Talica (its cheaper as well, and has 10yr warranty).
How long have you had the 15T, what line, and what have you caught?
Posted By: BotStomper
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2024 at 12:12pm
I've probably had it a year now. It's spooled with 400m of Shimano Ocea 8 PE5 as I wanted thinner line so I could use it for Hapuka when fishing in competitions that don't allow us to use electric reels. 400m maybe half filled the reel, I put a bunch of backing underneath it. When I eventually respool it I'll probably do it with either 60 or 80lb hollowcore.
Caught on it... nothing that has really tested it. Kings to 15kg or so, and a fair bit of bycatch from Puka fishing... Gemmies and some rather large Tope but haven't had a puka on it yet.
I still think a Makaira 10 is probably the go and in hindsight may have been a better option for me. Still got heaps of balls and plenty of line capacity for what I need, lighter and smaller. Honestly with a full spool of hollowcore I'd absolutely back the 15T to deal with a Marlin or a Bluefin without too much trouble; personally I'd compare it to a Talica 20 not a 16.