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Topic: which boat?
Posted By: Slapper 61
Subject: which boat?
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 3:22pm
Hi Guys looking for some advice on people who have been in or owned a Lazercraft 620, a Ramco 650 sportfisher, or buccaneer 605 to compare. 
 
been looking for the right boat around 6m (<35k) for months that fits the bill and really struggling.  I haven't had this problem on all my last boats.
 
boat will be based in Whangapoua so need to cross the bar.  want to be able to go offshore, take out wife and kids, plus mates every now and then, so needs to be safe and stable, comfortable but good for just fishing as well.
 
found a nice lazercraft 620 with a 115 Yamaha. concern is it maybe unstable at rest and not as good down waves given fine entry, which could be a concern coming back over bar it if roughs up.  I have read the under 6m are not too stable at rest either before they widened these once southern sports took over.  not good with wife and kids.
 
found a nice 605 2000 year but at top of my budget.  would the ride and stability be much better than the lazercraft or ramco 6.5 and worth the extra dollars.   a bit concerned about it getting chipped up on concrete ramp and pier with kids holding the boat too.  I am confident this is a good boat, but I am looking to see if the other two alloy boats could be as good in the sea.
 
For the ramco.  there is one in Wellington (I am in Auckland)  6.5m with a 135 optimax.  seems to fit the bill.   how is the ride on these compared to a lazercraft or buccaneer.  Don't really want to go there if its not really comparable.
 
leaning towards the alloy boats, but concern about them not being as good compared to a buccaneer.  looked at some haines hunter sf 600's and older buccaneer 605 / 560's, but they were old and needed heaps of work and/or repower etc.
 


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Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 4:23pm
I have owned none of those but depending on the gae of your kids would over nighting be an option?
If so, the cabin is as important as the cockpit.
I bought a Fyran 540 so it was easy to tow to the bach (WAitete Bay) and still big enough for myself and 2 grand kids to over night

Just a couple of thoughts to confuse you more

Posted By: Slapper 61
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 4:49pm
Not worried about overnighting as I doubt I will use it for that. Just sold our launch to by a bach. Want a comfortable cabin, but only for kids really. Main thing is 6m for the volume for going out a bit further to mercs or cuvier, top coro etc or taking 3-4 adults plus a couple of kids for a local fish. So I want a good hull. I have had a fyran 565 years ago - too small and also a bonito 622. The bonito was a good boat, but getting old and a 685 i saw recently was not that great condition wise.




Posted By: Joker
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 7:02pm
Slapper, I share your views regarding some of the needle nosed alloy boats often classed as good sea boats due to being able to blast through 2 foot Rangitoto chop.

In my opinion there is no substitute for having enough volume up front in the bow to combat heavy seas and bar crossings.

The answer is to have 4 points of stability as is often the case in pontoon boats with their own limitations or the more modern type of hulls with the extended gull wings as chines right to the front of the boat such as in the FC range of boats.

The difference is like comparing a 3 wheel "Mr bean" car to a normal four wheel car for stability, dryness and volume up front without taking away the vee of the bow.  
 
I have my 2nd FC boat, now a 560 C/C and its stability,dryness and general fishability is second to none. 

Posted By: Slapper 61
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2017 at 7:40pm
Yeah a 6m aqualite fits the criteria from reading old forums have great reviews and I was seriously considering those too. Family boats just got one in but stood inside it and the gunwales are only around knee height which feels like a design flaw for 6m boat capable of taking on the rough stuff. Never seen sides that low on a boat that size. Can't say I would feel comfortable me or my kids leaning against the side if its rocky. So that was unfortunate as I was keen on that boat..

Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 9:54am
Agree with  these
Slapper, I share your views regarding some of the needle nosed alloy boats often classed as good sea boats due to being able to blast through 2 foot Rangitoto chop.
In my opinion there is no substitute for having enough volume up front in the bow to combat heavy seas and bar crossings.

 Especially after comparing a 5.5 ray glass with the snubbier nose older commander.. both same weight and well powered.

Also when coming in with other boats  glass  alloy in  heavy breaking chop around us.. we cruise a little faster thru and flatter, more comfortable.. not banging and they are banging to try and keep up.
Im sure it has to do with the rake of the bow being more like a lake hull boat than a sea boat.
This all assumes the boats are well powered.. not min powered for their weight...again this makes a huge difference to the boat performance in flat and rough water/ bars/ wakes.

Want a comfortable cabin, but only for kids really. Main thing is 6m for the volume for going out a bit further to mercs or cuvier, top coro etc or taking 3-4 adults plus a couple of kids for a local fish. So I want a good hull.

Glass rides softer, cabins tend to be more roomy comfortable, and 6m gives a huge difference  in riding, and huge difference if chops up on the way home....well powered at the 200 hp.
Well powered also means better economy as able to prop to less engine volume ( rpms/mixture) per distance.
 Also be aware that  model numbers often do not represent hull length (vertical off the bow.. not the bow spit to center bottom of the stern)
ie a 635 buccaneer has a 6m hull

Posted By: Slapper 61
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2017 at 8:05am
Does anyone know how the late 80's sea nymph blazer, fisherman 600 or sea rider perform. Say vs a 6m haines or buccaneer.   Found some of these in good price range with late model injected mercs and the searider has a 4 stroke. The blazer and fisherman are supposedly 6m but the sea rider only about 5.6m so I am thinking the blazer or the fisherman for the extra volume which I think may be the same hull.   These seem to tick most of my boxes.


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