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Topic: SB rod, what's people are using nowadays.
Posted By: worksux
Subject: SB rod, what's people are using nowadays.
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 7:54pm
In the market for a new rod after a fail on my not to old, old rod.
Iv'e had a couple of recommends, but would like some feed back on what folk are using.
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 9:24pm
https://www.gofish.co.nz/rods-reels/fishing-rods/light-lure-rods/cousins-lws-light-saltwater-series-lsw-702s-rod.html

Been using these the past 3 years they are awesome. 


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 9:38pm
Using a 8 foot CD Extrasense, better casting with a longer rod.


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 9:48pm
Inshore, lighter stuff - 7'10" Ocean Angler Microwave (the older model). Casts really nicely.
Offshore and big snapper areas (fingers crossed) - 8' Hearty Rise from Go Fish - beautiful rod with plenty of power, but good feel in the tip, and top components 
Dragging - a Cousins overhead bought off none other than Muppet (see above). A lovely rod as well.


Posted By: Foxtrot Oscar
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 12:08pm
I attended the Ocean Angler presentation at Top Catch-Takapuna on Thursday (Cheers to Ciaran!) where "OA Dan" displayed their new rod called a "Bender". 
Boy, could it bend! Resists 'point-loading' and is really strong. Let me hold it at an upward angle and he just pulled the tip down to the floor. 
Fishing technique is to wind 'slowly'. 


Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 1:18pm
I have been using 8-9 ft rods, you can cast along ways with 1/8, 1/4 oz heads in shallow water, I'm looking for one that's 10ft now. Just need them with soft tips and power down low.

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Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 5:54pm
Anyone had dealings with the Daiwa black out rods, 



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Posted By: CBF-Whk
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 6:03pm
I am using Offshore made by Rodworx in Tauranga. Great rods but may be pricing themselves out of the market now??

CBF
Whk



Posted By: Spudnik
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 6:27pm
Just a beginner, so started with an 8', 6-8kg Xitus Pro from Shimano. Nice n light, and has done the job well for me so far.

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Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 6:49pm
Originally posted by CBF-Whk CBF-Whk wrote:

I am using Offshore made by Rodworx in Tauranga. Great rods but may be pricing themselves out of the market now??

CBF
Whk


Yep I have an offshore illusion also, Had it for years but never use it, find it's a little to stiff, 
Think I'm gonna sell it if anyone interested.


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Posted By: Skoti
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 8:03pm
I still use and love my berkley 6-8kg dropshot Big smile



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Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2017 at 3:26pm
Hi have a black out 8.4 ft great rod, smashed a snaps that was very close 20lb has great power.

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Posted By: BFIST
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2017 at 7:26pm
I picked up one of these at Xmas time and it was such an improvement on my previous rod. It's been great!

http://www.rodandreel.co.nz/product/daiwa-ballistic-x-7'6-2pc-4-9kg--762mhfs/dafopn652xx076.aspx


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2017 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by Skoti Skoti wrote:

I still use and love my berkley 6-8kg dropshot Big smile


Great rods those a soft baiting classic. well I reckon they are Big smile


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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2017 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by viscount viscount wrote:

Hi have a black out 8.4 ft great rod, smashed a snaps that was very close 20lb has great power.

Hi Viscount,

Can you please post the model number - is it a Generation Black or maybe a Black Label? I am trying to help a mate who's keen on a rod like that you mentioned, but we can't find Daiwa 'Black Out' online.

TTK


Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2017 at 6:15pm
It's a generation black from marine deals, Daiwa Generation Black Slugger 802MHFS Spinning Rod 8ft 2pc. It says it's 6-10kg I'm running 10lb braid, I can't fault it at all, you could go up in reel size to a 3000-4000 and run 15lb, I got it for the length can't find lighter rated in over 8 ft.

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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2017 at 9:34pm
Good to know, thanks for the reply. It's sold out at M Deals, but Go Fish on the shore has it. My mate lives over that way so I'll tell him to check it out.
I'm sure Greg will sell him some cool lures etc as well. Great shop.

It's been mentioned in other threads but Australia is the place to find long light lure rods, and also Japan where they do jigging from the shore.


Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 3:41pm
I'm looking on websites there and waiting for the sales to arrive, they have great daiwa rods, ill wait till I can get a 10ft + rod something with carbon guides.

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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 4:17pm
Make sure you've got anglerswarehouse.com.au on the list, and also Otto's Tackle World.
They both ship to NZ. 


Posted By: Big Manly Yaka
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 4:29pm
I Have 2 Gen Black Diawa rods:
1) Wicked Weasel 2 pc 208cm 2-6kg, easily my favourite rod on the kayak and pulled up snaps to 17lb. Bought back from Aus as couldn't source it here.
2) Black Sniper 4 pc 220cm 4-7kg. Great for casting slightly heavier lures long distance, wouldn't want it any longer on the kayak though.
Both are my go-to SB rods.


Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 6:02pm
I might see if synit can do a rod, the daiwa rods are good rods I have place all my shimano rods in the rack only use them if green fishes come out with me.

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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 6:13pm
Check out these mate, I run one got it from fish city and love it.

http://www.cdrods.co.nz/product/18475/cd-rods-extrasense-nano


Posted By: NICKed
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 7:42pm
Interesting range CD have. The blue rapid rods come in 8-10ft options, cast weights up to 40-50g and rated up to 17lb


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 7:43pm
Originally posted by Big Manly Yaka Big Manly Yaka wrote:

2) Black Sniper 4 pc 220cm 4-7kg. Great for casting slightly heavier lures long distance, 

Interesting input, BMY. Do you notice any difference in action from a 4pc? It sounds like an ideal light lure rod for travel. I'm going to SE Queenland soon for a couple of weeks and would like to pack a rod of some sort to cast softbaits in the estuaries from the shore. 


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by NICKed NICKed wrote:

Interesting range CD have. The blue rapid rods come in 8-10ft options, cast weights up to 40-50g and rated up to 17lb


Mines a 7kg 8 footer 8 to 35 gram, good for Softbait


Posted By: John_Ra
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 8:21pm
O/H or spin (cough)  LOL
 
length your thinking of?
besides softbait, going to use Kabura type lures?
slow jigs?
 
Use a Seaknight baitcaster 1200 ($36) from aliexpress running 10lb on a yeehaa acid wrap 4-6kg.
 
Wait till I get home for the others  lol.....


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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 4:37pm
It's probably more of a light land-based lure rod than a soft bait rod, but if anyone is interested, Smart Marine at Westhaven have got the Shimano Jungle Stix 9' 5-10kg rod on clearance for $150 (with a SM card). They are an Ian Miller design with reasonable components.


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 4:52pm
All good, Ordered a couple of cd extrasense nano  rods.



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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 8:29pm
nice one. 
Which size did you go for?
And where did you order it from - direct from CD Rods?


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 8:53pm
You'll be happy, micro guides, good length and casts for miles. You will need to learn the FG Knott to get it through the guides, but once you've got it sorted it improves the casting.

Did you look at one at fish city?


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 7:19pm
Well I tried and tried to like the cd extrasense but found it not to my liking. I was finding my old catch rod was my go to, shame really as a couple of posters and a good friend also use the extrasense and highly rate them. So back in the market for something new.

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Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 7:30pm
Random and probably not very helpful to anyone, but I bought one of these on a whim from Hunting & Fleecing, Rotorua. Turned out to be a good rod. Casts 1/3 oz well and have landed legal kingies on it.

https://fergostackleworld.com.au/xt-travel-explorer-7-0-3-7kg-3pce-rod.html" rel="nofollow - https://fergostackleworld.com.au/xt-travel-explorer-7-0-3-7kg-3pce-rod.html

Never seen the rod for sale anywhere else in NZ.

Next time, I'd go for a longer rod, 8ft or just under. 




Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 9:31pm
I repeat the Cousins rods recommendation.

I sold one overhead model to TK, only one I have heard of being resold LOL

And I have searched weekly on Trade Me since they been in NZ for something else I might want in there range. But nothing. 


Posted By: matto1234
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 10:14pm
Had a shimano backbone elite for many years and now have a daiwa generation black 3 piece 3-7kg rod i brought for overseas travel and its my preference now but has a very short butt so doesnt fit in a rod holder very safely


Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 7:15am
Hey worksux, what didn't you like about the rod?

I am also casting around for a longer rod than my std softie for micro jigs..

I am also unsure about the small guides, is the tip quide smaller also?


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 8:50am
Originally posted by Garry 23041 Garry 23041 wrote:


I am also casting around for a longer rod than my std softie for micro jigs..

I am also unsure about the small guides, is the tip quide smaller also?

As at the top of the thread, I like the Ocean Angler Microwave in that longer range - casts really nicely in that 1/4 to 3/4 oz range. Can go heavier, but I use my Hearty Rise for the higher weights.

If you feel like splashing out, you could always contact Keiron at Reel Rods in Northland, who would make something custom for you suited to the length/action you want for micro jigs.



Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 10:45am
Thanks for the input Tamure Kid...

Yeah reel rods just opened a new store in Tiapa which is 5 minutes from my house. Not wanting to spend so much on a trial item though..

I will check out your other suggestion first.

I will swing in and check out the store at some stage and just have a little peek.................

Cheers.


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 11:50am
Cool. You're a lucky man living in fishing paradise.

Mark Kitteridge did a piece for NZ Fishing News which was interesting, covers off the Ocean Angler and some other long rods. Mark used Reel Rods before longer rods became more common. He is a fan of the Microwave, while declaring his situation of being mates with the guy who markets them in NZ. Mark's not the kind of guy to say good things about a rod for commercial reasons.

Thanks to the connection between the Forum and the magazine, you can read his latest article on long soft bait rods here:

http://www.fishing.net.nz/fishing-advice/how-to/softbait-fishing-longer-rods/" rel="nofollow - http://www.fishing.net.nz/fishing-advice/how-to/softbait-fishing-longer-rods/


Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 2:31pm
Shimano dialuna S706M - best sb rod i have ever used..

Owned several sb rods from boutique brands over the years, and I dont think they could replicate something like this ith out it costing you $1000's 


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Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 6:59pm
Yeah I am lucky...

Thanks for the article link...

I currently fish Nano Matrix in a heavier version than the one he tested and I do like the rod.

I am going to shoot out in the morning for a fish and check the length of my current rod (lives on the boat) which I am sure is 7ft.

I like this thread.


Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 9:03pm
I will be doing a post later in the week regarding our new range of rods, we have been testing and modifying soft bait and micro jigging rods for the last 6-8 months and these rods have just landed in NZ
30T Japanese toray carbon with nano composites, all fuji reelseats and guides, 2 piece and 8ft to 8ft 4in. 3 models available 3-5kg, 4-7kg, and 5-9kg
Photos to come later in weekWink but you wont buy better than these at under $250 each and they come in a 2 piece neopreme bag


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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 9:22pm
Hearty rise make awesome rods, their light orange overhead jig rod with calucutta 200d is my favourite go to rod out of the kayak ... does bait and small jigs brilliantly.. For spin softbaiting and a bit grunt some of shimanos aren't bad ( have a Starlo, a Backbone elite, and couple of Nanos). However those Cousins rods would seem to be a worthwhile investment based on the rather definite recommendation above.


Posted By: eynon
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 12:01am
dont know if i entirely like the backbones. seem alittle stiff for working 1/4oz jigheads

recently picked up a shimano vortex rod that marine deals had on special in a combo. feels alright cant wait to try it out


Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 5:12am
I will give one a try Kaveman......


Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 6:16am
Originally posted by Garry 23041 Garry 23041 wrote:

I will give one a try Kaveman......


we heading up your way soon Garry, so will have them with us. Will get in touch


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Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 6:50am
Yeah keen as well kev! Need to have a pub demo to see the range


Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 7:50am
Originally posted by kaveman kaveman wrote:

I will be doing a post later in the week regarding our new range of rods, we have been testing and modifying soft bait and micro jigging rods for the last 6-8 months and these rods have just landed in NZ
30T Japanese toray carbon with nano composites, all fuji reelseats and guides, 2 piece and 8ft to 8ft 4in. 3 models available 3-5kg, 4-7kg, and 5-9kg
Photos to come later in weekWink but you wont buy better than these at under $250 each and they come in a 2 piece neopreme bag
Nice Kev , 
 would be keen as to see them especiallly the 3-5kg model, 


Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 12:44pm
Brilliant!

Theres a cold bevie in it for you for delivery!

Or two....


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 9:00pm
Originally posted by eynon eynon wrote:

dont know if i entirely like the backbones. seem alittle stiff for working 1/4oz jigheads

recently picked up a shimano vortex rod that marine deals had on special in a combo. feels alright cant wait to try it out

Hows it going Eynon
The backbone elite is ok for 1/4 ounce although prefer 3/8 and faster wind myself. The old Starlo needs 3/8 to work and is better on 1/2.   But have caught a 35 lb king on 1/8 once over the Starlo which felt horrible to cast with. Was trying to catch a bait fish for few marauding kings feeding when big fella grabbed tiny softbait.
Should come over bays for kayak fish sometime and we can compare notes on rod actions. Vortex sounds like a nice combo.
Cheers Shane


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 12:58pm
Snapped my softbait rod today through pure stupidity Cry so time for another one LOL


Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 1:38pm
I would try the old snapped the rod trick also Mightyboosh but I just used the dropped my jig rod over the side one on my wife.....


Posted By: Barbary B
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:37pm
Recently lost an offshore illusion - and a fireblood 4000 that was attached to it - and a really big trev that was attached to that in the middle of the waitemata.Snapped at the lower blank - probably because of knocking against the lip of the rodholder. Lesson learned - if you are using rod holder - make sure the rod is foam or cork encased at the point it touches the top of the rod holder - ie is not touching the carbon blank! Now also in the market for new rod - and reel.

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Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 4:50pm
Darn Barberyb...

Those Trevs are pretty staunch fellows if they have any size...I have wondered about wear from rod holders.

I once put my rod in the holder (not properly) and a fish pulled it over the side.

I dived in (glasses and all, no phone) and grabbed the rod.
Lucky for me I had the parachute out and was able to grab the line and pull myself back to the boat.

Not far off Coopers beach but it would have been a long swim and what would have happened to my boat?

Stupidest trick I ever pulled....well almost...............

When I lost my jig rod over the side this year it sank so fast there was no way I could have ever got it by the time I realized what had occurred.





Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 5:38pm
Got to admit the new Penn range of lighter softbait rods are really nice. Very well priced, specced and do a one piece 7'2 or 7'6 Insurgent I think model that felt the biz. 


Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:01am
Hard to go past my Ocean Angler Carbon, great foregrip, soft tip and grunty lower down. Top combo paired with a lefty Calcutta 200.
I also have an earlier gen. Abu Veritas 0.4 -1 PE baitcaster.....boy does it bend! But whilst it has a super soft tip for imparting movement to jigs and softbaits, there's enough in the lower end to lever out a 20lb Snapper.


Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 6:48am
I ended up having a synit made for me, if you like softbaiting have one built, I’ve used cheap rods and that’s what they are CHEAP, nothing compares to this synit if I could of gone down the daiwa rods with carbon guides then I would of but they are more expensive,

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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 7:45am
Cheap is not the same to everyone. There are some really nice rods for $200 about now. My Cousins still have gleaming guides after over three years on the yak. I cannot justify going more than $350 on a rod.


Posted By: Potty
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 8:05am
Yak fishers are tight with their $$$$$

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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:16am
Haha my reels say otherwise


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 10:45am
OA Microwave just turned up. Well done Marine Deals, less than 24 hours from order to delivery! It's heavier in action and weight, and the blank is thicker than I expected, but will give it a go.


Posted By: Potty
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Haha my reels say otherwise


On the boat my SB setups are more expensive, when it comes to SB from the YAK a shorter butt length dictates my purchase.

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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:10pm
Fair enough good in theory I have found no difference and fish both styles. One big advantage of getting a longer butt on the yak is that your reel is higher above the waterline and will cut down the splashes it gets.


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by muchalls muchalls wrote:

Hard to go past my Ocean Angler Carbon, great foregrip, soft tip and grunty lower down. Top combo paired with a lefty Calcutta 200.
I also have an earlier gen. Abu Veritas 0.4 -1 PE baitcaster.....boy does it bend! But whilst it has a super soft tip for imparting movement to jigs and softbaits, there's enough in the lower end to lever out a 20lb Snapper.


Love Calcutta 200s ...especially the d model mines a right handed one but I am left handed. Superb little reels, make trini 12 feel like a game reel. Which also run on same hearty rise rods( thanks dan for selling me yours). Nicest alround snapper gear I can think of fishing with.
And even take in yak... one set at trip mind you, wouldn't risk the two rods at once, although reels would be easily replaced, those delightful orange rods might be harder to find now. Takes me back to the solid glass rods of my child hood but these sticks are overhead with super fast taper and grunty all the way through yet with sensitive tip. Not bad for 100-125 bucks purchased from Gofish and Dan respectively about year and apart. And would buy another one at those prices. Hearty rise all the way... although only two rods of that brand I own... would now be my favourite general fishing rod brand. Not bad for a Malaysian manufacturer. Own few rods mainly NZ and Japanese made.. about 50.


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2017 at 7:19pm
Anyone using the latest 2017 Daiwa sol 762. 

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Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2017 at 8:10pm
Calcutta 201D, although that fish was caught with a Tica Caiman, drag serviced by SwordfishSteve.
I was in H&F today, had a look at Jigstar 603-3 and also the OA Bender! The tip of the bender sure is bendy!
But.......my Veritas 0.4 - 1 PE also has a fast soft tip, so no new rod for me today, just some long shank Lightbulb jigheads for bigger ZMan softbaits, some Shimano Kairiki 15lb and a Colt Sniper sinking stickbait........


Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2017 at 8:29pm
Originally posted by worksux worksux wrote:

Anyone using the latest 2017 Daiwa sol 762. 

Not using one but very nice for a 2 piece I reckon.  


Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 10:14am
my palms is not much more in price and kills that OA in all areas,

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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by viscount viscount wrote:

my palms is not much more in price and kills that OA in all areas,

Can you provide some details of model, specs etc and price? I don't think that brand is readily available here.


Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 2:20pm
Saw the old model Abu Veritas for $119 in H&F yesterday! Great value rod. The o/h PE 0.4-1 is almost as soft tipped as the OA bender, if not as break resistant.


Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 11:17pm
Hay TTK, 
 PALMS ROD METAL WITCH Quest MTSC-632T,
if you saw it you wouldn't think it could lift much, there are heavier rods in the range, I'm not fishing much passed 30m with it and 40g sliders up to 100g are good with it.


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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2017 at 8:21am
Originally posted by viscount viscount wrote:

Hay TTK, 
 PALMS ROD METAL WITCH Quest MTSC-632T,
if you saw it you wouldn't think it could lift much, there are heavier rods in the range, I'm not fishing much passed 30m with it and 40g sliders up to 100g are good with it.

Thanks Viscount. Looks like there are two splits to the thread: one with recommendations for longer, stiffer casting spin for soft baits; and the other for the shorter more bendy ones for slow jigs etc.
Interesting stuff.


Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2017 at 9:43am
Tamure Kid,  you need a completely different style of rod for slow jigs compared to micro jigs. Recommend 8'at least for casting micro jigs with a sensitive tip but medium to fast action. True Micro jigging from 7g up to 30-40g at max
Most soft bait rods are a bit slow to use for micro jigs but my new range of rods work them brilliantly
Slow jig rods are mainly parabolic and can range from 6' to 7' 6", all depends on the jig weights you use



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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2017 at 10:09am
Thanks for pointing that out, Kaveman. I misunderstood.

I was just trying to get my head around some people talking about 7'6"-8ft rods, versus others just over 6', on this thread re soft baiting.

I've got two longer rods for spin casting soft baits, and Muppet's old 7' Cousins overhead for dropping/dragging.


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 7:37pm
Bit of an update, I bought a couple of Catch pro rod, last year as well as a couple of CD rods which I passed on as I didn't really like them. Well to be truthful, the catch rods are nothing flash. within a few months both top eyes became loose and needed reglueing, then the tip broke on one which was replaced under warranty, the new replacement rod top eye also needed reglueing after a few trips, the new rod is now a three piece rod, broken on a  average size snapper.  No more Catch rods for me.

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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 9:13pm
Hate to sound like a broken record but give Greg at Gofish a call and get a Cousins softbait rod. He is very low on stock think he has two or three light models left and cannot see him getting anymore because of $ exchange rate. More importantly have seen none come back to his shop because of problems and it will last a longtime. 


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 6:55am
Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Hate to sound like a broken record but give Greg at Gofish a call and get a Cousins softbait rod. He is very low on stock think he has two or three light models left and cannot see him getting anymore because of $ exchange rate. More importantly have seen none come back to his shop because of problems and it will last a longtime. 

How do you find them for casting, I see all models are 7'


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Posted By: Potty
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 7:02am
Check out daiwa air edge, awesome rod for the $.

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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by worksux worksux wrote:

Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Hate to sound like a broken record but give Greg at Gofish a call and get a Cousins softbait rod. He is very low on stock think he has two or three light models left and cannot see him getting anymore because of $ exchange rate. More importantly have seen none come back to his shop because of problems and it will last a longtime. 

How do you find them for casting, I see all models are 7'

Cast as good as anything 7ft. The one Greg has in stock is the best model for snapper I got a few different ones with differing actions, but that one to me seems to handle the big headshakes of good sized snapper the best. 

Do what you will, they will be gone soon either way.


Posted By: BananaBoat
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 4:59pm
Bought this https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/okuma-tournament-concept-light-spinning-rod-7ft-9in-2-5kg-2pc" rel="nofollow - today light, wippy & heaps of grunt at the business end.


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 5:25pm
I couldn't get on with the OA Microwave, so it's gone. Replaced with a Shimano Shadow X Nano 3 - 6kg which I've had since December. Some rods just do it for me, even if they're not the most expensive and this is one of them. Only complaint is that the two sections twisted a little with vigorous casting. Sorted with a little hot melt glue Smile 


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by MightyBoosh MightyBoosh wrote:

I couldn't get on with the OA Microwave, so it's gone. Replaced with a Shimano Shadow X Nano 3 - 6kg which I've had since December. Some rods just do it for me, even if they're not the most expensive and this is one of them. Only complaint is that the two sections twisted a little with vigorous casting. Sorted with a little hot melt glue Smile 

I had a look at the Shimano but found the but section a little too short, I like to tuck it in under the arm pit when on a fish. 
 actually it's harder than it looks to find a store bought rod  that suits only you.
 Obvious a custom one would meet the needs, but  a $500 broken rod is worth the same as a broken $150 one.
 


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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 6:41pm
Fair enough same as me, Daiwa Generation Black and the Coastal model are nice and have that longer butt too. Being blatant but Daiwa's rods kick Shimano's arse right now IMO. 


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 7:40pm
Great that you found a rod you like, MB. 
Did you send the Microwave to a burial at sea half way to the Hen & Chicks?


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 7:50pm
No, back to Marine Deals, unused of course. It just didn't feel right.


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 9:29pm
Are those Microwave rods not good either?

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Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 9:42pm
Just not to my taste. Definitely handle one and buy in store rather than online.


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 12:59pm
Anyone tried the Okuma tournament concept rods, They look and feel good in the shop.


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Posted By: BananaBoat
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 2:14pm
Bought the concept tournament rod yesterday from marine deals. 7 foot 9 inch 2-5kg, lure weight 3-10g
Heaps of grunt when the rod folds away, wippy & light, could easily put 3-4kg drag over the tip. Paired up with my old sustain 2500
Next comparable rod I tried at the shop was something from daiwa at 299 was shorter, the okuma was 136. The only thing that felt different under load at the shop, the okuma weight was more around the the foregrip above the reel, the daiwa felt a little more further back in the butt... if that makes sense
Just need some better weather to go for a fish


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 5:44pm
Thanks BB, just ordered the 7'6"  4-6 kg model, 

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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by worksux worksux wrote:

Are those Microwave rods not good either?

I have got the older model, and find it works nicely for me. Suits my casting style, hand size etc. 
But MB's experience shows that everyone is different. A lot of people on here seem to prefer much lighter rods than I do, and also more soft in the tip, flexible through the blank. For example, the longer Okuma Nanomatrix felt way too light and bendy to me. But other people love them. 
as you've seen in earlier posts, one guy loves the CD Rods soft bait stick, another guy thinks it's only good for a growing his runner beans.

The cool thing about this thread is that a few options are thrown up and as MB says, no substitute for picking one up in person.
it's actually very similar to fly fishing - rod choice is very personal in a style of fishing where the action for casting and working the lures is so crucial.


Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 14 May 2018 at 3:12pm
I have bought in a range of softbait rods, all are japanese toray carbon and  composite blend. Very lightweight, sensitive and fast actioned. The 3-5kg only weighs 180g, the 4-7kg and 5-9kg weigh just over 220g.
The 4-7 and 5-9kg rods also double as great micro jig rods.
Heavy blank can handle 9kg of drag so very powerful yet great feel and bend
All models around the $250-270  RRP


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Posted By: strx7
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 10:15pm
got pics of them kaveman.  what brand guides (and inserts) have they got?  foam or cork grips?


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 11:02pm
Well, I'm a sucker for those Shimano Nano X Shadow rods, now have three! 

2 - 5kg for trout fishing with spinners
3 - 6kg for softies and microjigs
6- 10kg for kingfish (slow pitch jigs and big softies)



Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 29 May 2018 at 6:55am
Originally posted by strx7 strx7 wrote:

got pics of them kaveman.  what brand guides (and inserts) have they got?  foam or cork grips?


All 3 models have fuji K Guides, 2 heaiviest models have eva grips with split in middle and light weight model has cork grips.
Check out pics on my website, hard to post pics on here


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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 29 May 2018 at 9:24am
Originally posted by MightyBoosh MightyBoosh wrote:

Well, I'm a sucker for those Shimano Nano X Shadow rods, now have three! 

2 - 5kg for trout fishing with spinners
3 - 6kg for softies and microjigs
6- 10kg for kingfish (slow pitch jigs and big softies)


Great that you found something that suits you, and ski fishing MB. Especially at a value price.

What reels are you running on them? I imagine with the ski you have to be wary of reels which don't cope well with splashing.


Posted By: MightyBoosh
Date Posted: 29 May 2018 at 10:41am
Yeah, good point, I've got Ci4+ 1000 and 2500, plus a Thunnus 6000 on the heavier rod which I won in a competition. I'm pretty meticulous about keeping my stuff dry on the ski.


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 29 May 2018 at 11:30am
thanks mate, good to know. I like my Stradic FK, and I presume the drags on the Ci4 are just as smooth.Nice and light too, my FK would be a bit heavier, but is nicely balanced for my rod.


Posted By: Motorhead
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2018 at 1:19pm
What are recommendations for a softbait rod around 8ft? I currently use Offshore Illusion SB so 7ft.


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2018 at 1:47pm
There are several mentioned in this thread, mate. But conflicting input - e.g. I quite like my Ocean Angler Microwave (7'11"), but MightyBoosh wasn't a fan and sent his back. Some people love the CD Rods but I didn't like the grips when I picked the rod up in store. Quite thin and felt slippery.

Kaveman has got a fan base for his rods which are in that 8' range.

The Shimano Dialuna they use on Big Angry Fish is 7'11", but has got quite a short distance between the reel seat and the butt.

My Hearty Rise Stalker from GoFish is a lovely rod, but at the heavy range of the soft baiting spectrum. I use it for 3/4 and 1oz jigheads up north, or out in deeper water.

Daiwa is making some nice rods, but the ones here seem to more be in the 7'6" range. Longer ones in Australia.

I think it's important that you try them in the hand.



Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2018 at 2:05pm
Originally posted by Motorhead Motorhead wrote:

What are recommendations for a softbait rod around 8ft? I currently use Offshore Illusion SB so 7ft.


I have 3 model at 8ft and 8ft 2".
3-5kg is 8ft and has short butt with cork grips
4-7kg and 5-9kg are 8ft 2" and have long butt section with split grips. All have Japanese toray carbon blanks with nano composites and all fuji components. Wont buy better value and great casting ability and sensitivity, yet very powerful blanks
Just as good for casting micro jigs too which is a bonus
RRP $239 so very affordable compared to some other rods


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