Lazy $1000
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Heavy Metal - Jig fishing
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Printed Date: 01 Feb 2026 at 8:59pm
Topic: Lazy $1000
Posted By: Tone327
Subject: Lazy $1000
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 3:41pm
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So I had a crack at this jigging for kingies lark. Had an experienced chap who showed me the basics and now only my Grandkids can put a bigger smile on my face. Soooo I am selling off some of my fishing gear to "invest :)" in some jigging gear. I am pretty sure I can raise a grand. I am targetting kings around 20kgs but dont want to be left wanting if a 40 was on offer. So the age old question is what set up to get. I am doing my head in at all the options but have come to a couple of conclusions. 1. I dont know **** about the capabilities of lower priced reels cause most people talk about jm, accurate, avet and maxel 2. Is there much difference in a $200 rod compared to the flash harry $500+ funny set eyes rod? For the master jiggers out there what would you buy for a grand? Given I have gear that I can jig 100oz already. Buy a flash reel and cheapish rod and upgrade later? Buy the set that you dont use anymore ? Appreciate your advice |
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 7:13pm
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Hi Tone You can certainly get a very good setup for $1000 incl rod/ reel/braid Good reel will set you back $500, rod $350 and braid $100 You could spend more than $1000 just on a rod alone if you want a fancy Japanese model. I can supply a brand new Poseidon reel for under $500 and can point you in the right direction for rod and braid for a great setup PM me if interested Kevin -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: alan syme
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 7:56pm
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Buy the best gear that you can for $1000, I would look at good, well looked after 2nd hand gear on here, or trademe etc. Like Stellas, JM, accurate etc matched with a suitable rod. Some really good mid priced new gear around also, like shimano saragosa, accurate reels. I would tend to put more $ into the reel than the rod myself as I think that they are the more important of the two, or the part that gets the most punishment and needs to be high quality. But in saying that, using a nice rod makes a huge difference also. Not great advice, probably just confused the situation more....... but in summary buy quality if you can.
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 7:58pm
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One of the jigstars would serve you well......middle of the road.....200 to 400 gram jigs.....some gosen /ygk/daiwa boat braid (*ranibow braid )pe 6 would set you up nice......that would be a general purpose set for the gulf but would still be viable in tiger country.......if you only want one set.......the jigstar ninjas and twisted sisters offer good value for money.....with twisted being more superior(acid wrapped) but the ninjas are still bloody good..probably M or ML depending on what jigs and line weight you want to use...sure kaveman would set you up with a matching reel.......you just need to match your components rod/reel/line/jigs. * means different colours every 10 metres if you didnt know.......very useful for measuring your depth..... One last thing....you havent mention your preference = spin or overhead....so i have presumed your after an o/h set up?.. Plus you never regret buying quality gear because it wont let you down and will last and last if you take care of it...Good luck.
 ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 8:17pm
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Yep thanks for the replies. Want to go OH. Will have a look at the rods mentioned. How much drag is actually usable? I am 85kg, 6ft with chicken arms so I wont be haulin hard as most of the guys here. I suppose the formula for me is 300+m of 50 or 80lb braid and enough drag to just keep me in the boat. What drag setting do you usually operate at?
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 1:29am
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At least 10kg of smoooth drag......the more you put on...the harder they pull...... Good luck staying in the boat with 20kg !...there have been many debates about usable drag.......Pretty sure the reels kev sells are dual drag and have plenty.......certainly an advantage....... seeing as you are not jig fit......believe you me......you need to be..... Look to jig 250 to 300 gram jigs...not as hard work as 420 or 500 gram....Go to the gym and work your arms and shoulders....Then hang on and listen to the skip when he tells you what depth they are at........count your 10m sections down and go 10 below the skips tip and jig up towards it....Look at the ninjas/twisted sister and kevs reels and balance it up for what you want.....sure Kev will help you......then its the jigs ....braid....gloves......jig bag ...split ring pliers ....hooks and split rings...solid rings and kevlar assist cord(jigstar is what i use)......plus you will need to make your own assist rigs...unless you buy complete ones like "Shout" for example........read the newbies section as well.
------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 6:49am
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Thanks LBD. We are in tune with my formula. I was aiming to 250-300 lures. Will do some more reading. Have you had any experience or reports of the Maxel brand of reel?
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 7:49am
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Maxel reels are quite good, they used to build JM reels under contract a few years ago that is why both reels are very similar looking ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: home bouy
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 10:05am
| best bet is to keep an eye out on the high end 2nd hand gear. you can buy sets that are over 1500 to replace but can get a good deal on here with the 2nd hand and she kit will still be in good nick. |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 6:59pm
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So after doing my head in about what set up to try I have worked out that I dont know! So the plan is to go on a charter or a boat with a few experienced jiggers that has different gear so I can see/try what is being used. Any recommendations for a tauranga/whakatane charter or anyone willing to let me tag along? I am not a newbie to fishing and completely self sufficient. Just wanting to make an informed decision
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:16pm
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While buying second hand does save you money.........You have no idea exactly what has happened to the gear whilst with previous owners.....I am not saying sellers are dishonest ...no way......but there is always some risk when you buy.......a perfect example is rods........sometimes rods can get smacked onto the gunnels by a very enthusiastic strike from a king.......i have seen it.....have seen stellas get smacked this way with spin sets.......if you wallop the blank like that....it can get bruised and show no sign of damage and then later ....SNAP.......i did that to my soft bait rod...... I would buy good quality at a reasonable price(new) from someone who can back up their product........my first rod was a jigstar 450...the mark one........what a beauty too......that was when jigging first started up......I still have it and if you looked at it....you would think its brand new......I have caught so many good fish on it............Buy a top end set when you have plenty of experience and you are really into it..........Buy a jigstar to get started....because i wouldnt lend you one of my sets if you asked me too.....that would get quite colourful !......Take responsibility for your own use......Maxell are the original.......jm copied them......get a jigstar and the maxell and go and get stuck into it.........it will never be a low life set and if you look after it....you will probably still enjoy using it ten/twenty years down the track........thats value for money....plus you will get used to your own gear....become a better jigger and more than likely catch more fish...its a no brainer. As arnie said "Doooooo itttttt"
 ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:23pm
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Hey Tone if your planning on doing a lot of jigging my suggestion is get quality gear first not a bit latter after one season with gear that doesn't match your experience. Also get along side your local jigging tackle stockists. If your fishing out of Tauranga get in touch with Kane at Decoro he'll point you in the right direction and stocks good jigging gear π ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:28pm
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Dont know if i agree with that pete......hes a newbie and there is no guarantee hes really going to get into it...for some its just far too much hard work !......the combo i suggested is a reasonable cost and a good option with his budget....it would be easy to sell if he didnt get into it and he gets a good set up without too much expense.......buying a top end set for first set up? .......I am not convinced but agree with the local jigging tackle shop bit......he obviously is nervous about parting with his dosh.........he just needs to open his ears severely ...suck it all in and then he will be fine with it !
------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 12:08am
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Petes advise is solid, go with it. And Jigstar rods werent available at the " start of jigging" possibly just when you started....... Chris's heavy metal dvd at the kings with JTF et al was shot April 2006......... long long before Jigstar evolved ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 2:47am
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Thank you all for your opinions and advice. None of it is falling on deaf ears. I have been in touch with Kaveman and also chatted with Kane. I have fished spinning reels most of my 40 years of fishing, except the early years when a penn OH was goto surfcasting outfit. Only the last few years has seen me more regularly out on boats rather than LBG. Then my mate shows me this jigging thing and my makeshift jigging outfit (which is my topwater set saragosa 10000,Tcurve) was made to look wanting compared to his. Hence the , do i get a nice spin jig rod now and update reel later, or go OH from the get go. I havent caught a hoodlum over 30kg on a jigging set up to know if OH or Spin would suit me better. I suppose its like making sure i get the right boots before my hunting trip. Its a bit late if I get blisters two days in. The nature of what i am targeting means I have to get quality gear, I know this. I know also that there is a few hundy of braid and jigs to get as weΔΊl. Not being a tight arse but the quality versus price is not a linear thing lol and just want to make sure i am not paying for a gold plated clicker spring. First decision for me is OH or Spin. From there its a $300-450 rod, then deciding on the engine room. |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 12:45pm
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laidbackdood wrote:Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 1:37pm
| There's a jigstar shadow 450 OH in Bronco's sports in Tauranga for $300 if your interested, I spotted it today and was seriously considering grabbing it. Pretty good price for that rod. |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 5:38pm
| Yeah I saw it too! If anyone else was interested there is a Shimano Anarchy OH pe8 at Top Catch Sulphur point |
Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 10:20am
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Tone I fish both spin and OH not as many use spin but it works just as well in the right hands IMO ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 2:42pm
| Thanks Pete. I enjoy my livebaiting also and have found using spin gear, for me, more my style. I fish with the bail arm open and finger the line. Then close it up once fish is taken. I was originally going to go OH because that all I had really seen, but after a lot of googling and talking to people, it seems Spin JIgging is also well catered for tackle wise |
Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 3:02pm
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Yeah Tone plenty of spinning jig options out there mate. One of my jigging mates only uses spin and I've seen him out fish some accomplished jiggers π I use both spin and OH to share the load over my old bones during a long day of ripping 350g jigs. I hope you find the gear your after and enjoy the thrill of jigging. ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |
Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 7:40pm
| My 2c, get an Okuma Metaloid Spin jig rod, the heavy one (PE6-8 I think it is?) and spend the rest on the reel, braid and a bunch of jigs. The Okuma is only $220 or so and is very well appointed for the money which leaves you loads of dosh to get a decent reel on there like a used Stella. |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 7:54pm
..that is true.....my mistake....got my facts wrong there but then so did you...i started not long after that vid came out.. used those ****ty jm rods that were around then....onboard....I stick by my advice....only spend the large money if you know its a style of fishing for you.......Only an idiot would cough a lot of money on something they have never done.....see if you like it first....quite a few charters provide tackle on a use it and pay for it if you break it principal......i know epic used too......maybe go out with them once and use their gear and see if its your cup of tea before you part with your cash....alternativly go on a boulder guiding jigging trip(on here) ....he will help you out.
------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 6:16am
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So i have bought a Shimano Anarchy spin jig pe5 and a handful of jigs and split ring pliers. I am going to respool one of the Saragosa 10000 reels with some reinbow braid. Thanks to everyone for their advice |
Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 8:28am
Nice one Tone go get em bro π ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |