Boat Insurance
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Topic: Boat Insurance
Posted By: AP
Subject: Boat Insurance
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 8:04am
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Hi Folks Im just in the process of insuring my boat...my current insurer is charging an annual premium of $900 with a $250 excess for $70k cover...how does this compare to others? I thought $900 seems a bit steep...
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Posted By: Southern_Jez
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 8:06am
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$621/annum with $250 excess for $54000 cover with State. You can get cheaper, but I have never had any dramas dealing with State when required (outboard claim on old boat, and car write off from water damage), for me, that ease of use when the sh*t hits the fan counts for a bit.
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Posted By: MikeAqua
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 8:47am
I'm pay $400 for around $30k cover. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. I'm also with State.
They have been good to deal with. They will insure a hull up to 35 years old without survey. Helpful as mine is 28 years young.
They have been flexible both times I moved storage location, each time checking with the re-insurer and responding quickly.
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Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 10:34am
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I'm paying $600 for $66k cover with Club Marine, which was near enough the same as it would have been with Mariner Marine Insurance (who insure my other boat) as I checked on renewal to make sure it was an OK price. Mariner were very helpful with older boats and when I made a claim were very good.
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Posted By: Otto
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 11:30am
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Just got a quote $880 for $105000.00 $500 excess CM
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Posted By: viscount
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 2:35pm
Ami $500 with a $250 excess $55000
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Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 2:55pm
MikeAqua wrote:
I'm pay $400 for around $30k cover. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. I'm also with State.
They have been good to deal with. They will insure a hull up to 35 years old without survey. Helpful as mine is 28 years young.
They have been flexible both times I moved storage location, each time checking with the re-insurer and responding quickly.
| must be different for yachts?had to get a survey on 35 yr old yacht,luckily I know a surveyor,1 doz and all written out.$1k on $18kwent youi,$600 on $18k,no idea what claims are like though
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Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 4:31pm
550 for 55k through club marine with my NZSFC discount
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Posted By: corokid
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 4:41pm
460 for 50k cover with club marine(trailer boat) with a few discounts for my qualifications and experience. Also probably going to be one of their approved surveyors.Generally boats over a certain age or value will require an insurance acceptance survey.Obviously moored boats will have higher premium. Ensure your anti theft device is accepted type to avoid any issues if you have to claim.
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Posted By: funandfunction
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 7:17pm
There are generally two types of policy as far as I know. Market Value and Agreed Value . I think you'd need to be aware of which you're talking about when comparing.
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Posted By: Sealegs
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 10:24pm
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There are different policies for trailer boats and moored boats, and different rates for the same type of boat in different situations. e.g. swing mooring or marina berth. You can only compare like for like. Some policies, particularly those written for certain brokers, also have special wording which incorporates a lot of add ons. You really need to decide what you want, including market or agreed value, and then ring around, and read the policy. While State may be favoured by some, there are a number of insurers with specialist marine departments that should have a better idea of which end of a boat is the front.
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Posted By: Lickindip
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2016 at 2:09am
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and at the bottom end of the scale ... $200 for $12k trailer boat with AMI but I will be changing all my insurances away from AMI when I get back it the country they are your best friend when you are asking for quotes or paying them but a pack of W4NKERS when it comes to claims had a car stolen so got pinged for 2 excesses (car and contents), they wouldn't cover the full market price they had always quoted me, they cancelled my auto payment and someone else's policy so I got a late bill from them, they didn't de-register the written off car, so NZtransport sent me bill and over due letters multiple times even after I contacted ami that they should sort it out have had a quote from club marine for around $270 for $12k ... but then NZSFC gets a 10-15% of that I believe. and club marines cover is much greater
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Posted By: Woodrow
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2016 at 7:23am
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I pay $893.00 a year for $120K cover with $500 excess though Club Marine.
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Posted By: Denny Boy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2016 at 8:31am
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$600 for $80k with Mariner. Not sure if that will still be the case now though
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Posted By: AP
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2016 at 6:35pm
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Interesting stuff....certainly some pretty big variations in the mix! Sounds like Denny Boy is getting a pretty grouse deal!
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Posted By: Jemry
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2016 at 11:15am
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I use Mariner Marine, $891.25 incl gst, insured for $140,000 ($135,000 boat $5000 worth of fishing gear thats normally stored on the boat) with $1000 excess. Have been very good so far, with a payout for a new turbo.
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Posted By: SaltyC
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2016 at 2:17pm
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Rule of thumb for launches moored in marinas, used anywhere NZ coastal and inland waters, $1000 excess and an "agreed value" policy, is 0.5% of the value insured, plus gst.
ie $150,000 @0.5%=$750 + GST =$862.50pa
The thing to watch is most insurers will start at this when competing for your business and then try and creep it up above the 0.5% over the next few years, you have to keep them honest.
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Posted By: livin4fish
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2016 at 6:42am
$70 k with club marine $562.00 $ 500.00 excess
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Posted By: jackel
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 9:10pm
Jemry wrote:
I use Mariner Marine, $891.25 incl gst, insured for $140,000 ($135,000 boat $5000 worth of fishing gear thats normally stored on the boat) with $1000 excess. Have been very good so far, with a payout for a new turbo. |
A 'payout for a new turbo' so you have some sort of mechanical warranty as part of your insurance? I have heard of that also but keen to know more about your mechanical warranty. Do the other insurers cover mechanical? p.s I spoke to AMI and checked my boat is covered when crossing the Manukau Bar, it was and I asked them to put that in writing for me. They also asked me when insuring the boat to break it down into, hull, outboard, trailer which could be messy in the event of a claim as the component costs are unlikely to adequately cover fitted prices. Did you guys with the Club Marine insurance get asked to break down the valuations?
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Posted By: Sealegs
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 10:04pm
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You don't have to ask an insurer to put in writing if something like crossing the Manukau Bar is covered because it is already written in the policy. If they say they cover your boat to, say, 200 miles from the coast, and it is not specifically excluded, then it is covered. I wonder how many people actually read the full policy, and not just the brief summary that brokers often give.
Damage to a turbo may not necessarily be due to a mechanical fault. It may be due to other issues such as ingesting water from a leaking hull. All pleasure hull policies exclude mechanical failure, but it comes down to something called proximate cause. If the mechanical issue is caused by something else that is insured for, then you should get paid out.
Dene
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Posted By: jackel
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 10:43pm
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Interesting thanks Sealegs, I know a guy who got paid out on his outboard engine damage due to fuel contamination. I don't know the ins and outs of it but find it tricky to see how he managed that myself. Any thoughts on that one?
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Posted By: Sealegs
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2016 at 7:44am
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Claims for fuel contamination are fairly common and generally you will find the insurer will cover it. It depends on the circumstance.
The policy will state basically what is covered and will have a number of specific exclusions - e.g. mechanical damage, electrical faults etc. Contaminated fuel will cause mechanical damage, but the mechanical damage may still be covered because the cause is external to the engine - e.g. someone has deliberately put water in your fuel. So the cause is not just a mechanical breakdown, it is another act that has caused the mechanical breakdown - a subtle but important difference.
I have noticed over the years that although many claims may not be technically covered by the policy wording, reputable insurers will still often cover them just to maintain reputation. Probably goes against the grain of what many people think, but that is what I see.
Dene
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Posted By: AP
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2016 at 4:17pm
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Just signed up to Club Marine- annual premium turned out exactly 33% cheaper than my previous insurer.
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Posted By: Jemry
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2016 at 4:17pm
jackel wrote:
Jemry wrote:
I use Mariner Marine, $891.25 incl gst, insured for $140,000 ($135,000 boat $5000 worth of fishing gear thats normally stored on the boat) with $1000 excess. Have been very good so far, with a payout for a new turbo. |
A 'payout for a new turbo' so you have some sort of mechanical warranty as part of your insurance? I have heard of that also but keen to know more about your mechanical warranty. Do the other insurers cover mechanical? p.s I spoke to AMI and checked my boat is covered when crossing the Manukau Bar, it was and I asked them to put that in writing for me. They also asked me when insuring the boat to break it down into, hull, outboard, trailer which could be messy in the event of a claim as the component costs are unlikely to adequately cover fitted prices. Did you guys with the Club Marine insurance get asked to break down the valuations?
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I put it to them that it was a 'sudden and accidental loss' and not due to lack of maintenance (was a hose clip band that had been sitting in the filter for who knows how long? sucked into vanes, luckily no further damage)
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Posted By: livin4fish
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2016 at 7:29pm
A mate hit a rock bent prop, skeg and driveshaft all fixed by insurance, Said it was his own fault but they still paid out
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Posted By: MandM
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2016 at 9:53pm
AP wrote:
Hi FolksIm just in the process of insuring my boat...my current insurer is charging an annual premium of $900 with a $250 excess for $70k cover...how does this compare to others? I thought $900 seems a bit steep...
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just insured a $300,000 trailer boat with Vero for $2,200. Excess $1000. called a few places, they were the cheapest.
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Date Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 4:10am
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Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 7:03am
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Just insured my boat with ami $124 per annum with a $100.00 excess. Stoked!
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Posted By: notalloyit
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 3:00pm
Yes, do watch the difference with agreed and market value, got my boat/ motor rear ended by texting euro non licensed freedom camper driver. smashed motor off transom, stuffed from powerhead down, motor was 3 yrs old and close to mint, truthfully. To replace motor they only said it was worth 3500 to 4000 for the motor due to depreciation, I had been paying insurance on 8500 for 2 years prior to hit. WHY? as that's what I understood I would get if something happened to write it off or it gets stolen, I told them find me a 40 horse merc xr lightning anywhere in NZ or Australia comparable to my preaccident condition for that price and i'll buy it, couldn't be done, my argument was, unit totally, useless from powerhead down, replace motor. They refused, had to compromise and get a complete bottom end, now why wasn't the freeloader charged for the difference, as they were at fault. SO do make sure you understand exactly what is covered, I will say though that the assessor was a godsend, very helpful and knowledgeable, way better than the Motueka boatyard that pissed me around for 3 months and couldn't follow simple instructions.
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Posted By: Far Quirk
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 2:04pm
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Update
From December 2020, Club marine appear to have sold out to Tower, and they forward your call to Tower. Service not much good so far. Got sick of waiting for them to answer the phone so requested a call back. That was over 20 minutes ago.
Also tried to call AMI, also poor service. Sent them an email, still no reply.
I'm now going to go back to my current insurer, Mariner, and ask them why they've put my premiums up by 18% over 5 years. It's not much, but the sum insured hasn't changed, so why?
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Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 2:17pm
Bayleys have put there rates up too.Due to parent company having major losses o payouts it's only going to get worst
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Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 3:42pm
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I had a reply from Club Marine saying they are not doing new policies, so I assume they are ceasing business in time?
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Posted By: Ecko
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 4:15pm
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I gave up with Bailey's also. I have an excellent new policy sorted by the guys who look after my health insurance. The boat specialist is super on to it and arranged comprehensive cover at the best rate I could find.
PM me for his details.
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 4:17pm
Far Quirk wrote:
Update
From December 2020, Club marine appear to have sold out to Tower, and they forward your call to Tower. Service not much good so far. Got sick of waiting for them to answer the phone so requested a call back. That was over 20 minutes ago.
Also tried to call AMI, also poor service. Sent them an email, still no reply.
I'm now going to go back to my current insurer, Mariner, and ask them why they've put my premiums up by 18% over 5 years. It's not much, but the sum insured hasn't changed, so why?
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I am with AMI, tacked on to other vehicle insurance. Seemed like a reasonable deal versus a couple of other providers, but I did manage to get through to a real person to set it up!
But it's worth being insured - I know a guy who's just getting his boat repaired after a recent accident at Half Moon Bay.
He was minding his own business retrieving his boat on to his trailer, when another boatie came in at quite some speed and smashed into the stern of his boat, which then jack-knifed into his vehicle.
$6000 bill so far to the boat, and he was VERY lucky to escape uninjured. If he was on the side where the boat jack-knifed, he would have been squashed between the boat and the car.
The guilty party claimed his throttle got stuck as he neared the ramp!
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Posted By: Ecko
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 12:14am
The Tamure Kid wrote:
Far Quirk wrote:
Update
From December 2020, Club marine appear to have sold out to Tower, and they forward your call to Tower. Service not much good so far. Got sick of waiting for them to answer the phone so requested a call back. That was over 20 minutes ago.
Also tried to call AMI, also poor service. Sent them an email, still no reply.
I'm now going to go back to my current insurer, Mariner, and ask them why they've put my premiums up by 18% over 5 years. It's not much, but the sum insured hasn't changed, so why?
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I am with AMI, tacked on to other vehicle insurance. Seemed like a reasonable deal versus a couple of other providers, but I did manage to get through to a real person to set it up!
But it's worth being insured - I know a guy who's just getting his boat repaired after a recent accident at Half Moon Bay.
He was minding his own business retrieving his boat on to his trailer, when another boatie came in at quite some speed and smashed into the stern of his boat, which then jack-knifed into his vehicle.
$6000 bill so far to the boat, and he was VERY lucky to escape uninjured. If he was on the side where the boat jack-knifed, he would have been squashed between the boat and the car.
The guilty party claimed his throttle got stuck as he neared the ramp! |
Presumably the guilty parties insurance is paying out?
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Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 10:25pm
Far Quirk wrote:
Update
From December 2020, Club marine appear to have sold out to Tower
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I missed this, thank FQ.
Interesting, I approached tower ages ago about a glass boat which weighed slightly over the wagons tow range. They said they could not offer cover. Yet other companies said they just refer to the RTNZ laws, in which case the boat and wagon were fine.
We just used ASB prior as was convenient, but looking back, wasnt cheap. Not with ASB now so irrelevant other than easiest isnt always best.
Clearly pays to shop around.
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Posted By: Far Quirk
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 9:03am
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Update - It took a while but within 2 days I had quotes from Tower andAMI. My previous insurer Mariner wanted $306 with a $500 excess. Tower wanted $249 with $1000 excess (I'm happy with a higher excess) AMI wanted $195 with a $1000 excess, so I went with them.
Before I settled on AMI I went back to Mariner to ask if they would change their excess to $1000, but they wouldn't. Also asked why they had hiked their premiums, and they said that their customers were claiming more, so they had to put their premiums up. I told them I had a lower quote and they looked at whether they could lower the premium, but they couldn't, so byebye.
The difference is a 36% saving with AMI, which might not be much in $/year, but should add up to over $1000 over 10 years.
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Posted By: Ascot
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2021 at 11:50am
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just had quotes through for $85k cover, $1000 excess
$830 with Tower $1080 with AMI (all other insurances with AMI)
Big enough difference to put the boat with them
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