Eels.
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Forum Name: Fisheries Management
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Printed Date: 27 Jan 2026 at 8:53pm
Topic: Eels.
Posted By: mowerman
Subject: Eels.
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 7:04am
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. A US decline in the size of cattle herds has also seen increasing demand for fresh New Zealand meat products. There was $222,654 worth of live eel exports last year, up from $132,717 in 2011. Aren't eels on the list as being endangered species ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 7:27am
| Only certain ones mate. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 7:28am
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mowerman wrote:Posted By: herby
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 8:16am
How are these two statements related? |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 10:32am
I'm glad your not related  ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: herby
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 2:24pm
| What? |
Posted By: Tagit
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 4:27pm
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The statements are from the same news article Herby. First statement was the opening of the article. |
Posted By: taurangatroutmaster
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 4:41pm
| longfin eels are going down the same path as whitebait. if things keep going the way they are we'l be lucky if we have them in 50 years time. |
Posted By: herby
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 5:06pm
Probably the only thing that ties those statements together. |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 6:16pm
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www.longfineel.co.nz › extinction-crisis HomeSaving Our EnvironmentFreshwaterLifeline for LongfinsLongfin Eel threatened with extinction Climate Change Freshwater Clean Streams Accord Land and Water Forum Lifeline for Longfins Longfin Eel threatened with extinction Wild Rivers Wonderful Wetlands High Country International Work Marine and Coastal Native Plants and Animals Threats and Impacts Longfin Eels threatened with extinction Longfin Eel, Photo: Alton Perrie Longfin Eel, Photo: Alton Perrie Habitat is reduced: Over 150 years of European settlement, tuna habitat has been reduced enormously as over 90% of wetlands have been destroyed, and the construction of hundreds of dams and weirs has blocked upstream migration by young eels. Remaining habitat is polluted: Longfin eels evolved in the clean water of bush clad streams and rivers. What habitat remains has largely been altered as hills—cleared of bush for farming—progressively erode and smother the stony stream beds with silt. Animal faeces, agrichemicals, fertilizers, municipal effluent and industrial waste are pouring into our rivers in unprecedented amounts. For forty years, under the management of the Ministry of Fisheries, commercial eel fishermen have been allowed to overexploit the eel resource: Eels were drafted into QMS after 30 years of intensive and virtually unregulated exploitation. Unfortunately, catches have continued to decline under this system—no quota for longfin eel has been met in any area, in any year, ever. These days, very few large longfins are seen, sex ratios are worryingly skewed and elver numbers are markedly less than in former times. The longfin population is now dangerously reduced and may be approaching reproductive tipping point—recent conservation measures implemented by the Ministry are too little, too late. ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 7:19pm
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MOANERman some good info here on Eels; http://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/mr-tuna-saving-the-rangitaikis-taonga_topic118328.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/mr-tuna-saving-the-rangitaikis-taonga_topic118328.html |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 7:40pm
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We will see who's moaning in about 3 years or less ...lol.lol...3 snapper ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: herby
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 9:55pm
| I still don't get what the USA beef industry has to do with eels....and now you're bringing snapper in to the equation. |
Posted By: Tzer
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 10:17pm
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A new pugsy in the making herby |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2016 at 10:27pm
Its easy Herby. They are beefing up the eels. and snapping them up |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 1:08am
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Herbs. If you want to know the full story you will have to search for it.Was an interesting write up as well. The snapper comment was added after catchnothing referred to me as moanerman..yes he will be moaning soon as the allowance will be going down ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 7:31am
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But yes a good article indeed ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: herby
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 10:44am
| Catchelot does have a point.... You don't seem to post anything positive. |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 11:03am
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What do you focus on herby.my concern is the degradation of habitat and marine life.Not alot positive happening in that ..Also our fisheries are being being depleted faster than they are being replaced and our excess to those being taken away by increasing pressure by government and associated industry ...the minority in charge of the majority..that has to be changed to a balance for all..preservation of marine and habitat for ongoing generation's..just not 1 group. An inshore commerial exclusion zone with a healthy and sustainable fishery .. We do not have that..nor are we going to get that under any current proposal ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: herby
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 12:56pm
| I'm concerned about that too, but youre constantly negative about everything. Cheer up, be positive, and you'll find good things start happening |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 12:57pm
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Just a point of order here. Most of the posters go on about how the rules are this and the rules are that and MPI are ******* for not following the rules. OUR RULES state that we post in the correct forums. In this case the correct forum is Fisheries Management. In that forum the rule is we discuss Fisheries Management issues. What really pisses me off about the Fisheries Management topic is that most of us agree there's a problem, yet all we do is ***** and moan about others fighting for the same cause. It doesn't help that we have had a resident troll for so long, my advice is that you don't reply or answer his posts if you suspect he is still on these forums. If some (not all) of you can't agree on a single point then we deserve what we get. no wonder we are powerless. Here's an idea, why don't we all get stuck into the one organisation that at least has more than a laymans understanding of how to create change and pick them to pieces over all their perceived shortcomings.  Some people contributing to this thread and the Fisheries Management forum need to go and sit down and have a think about just how much damage they have done to the recreational anglers cause through their well meaning (to them) but totally misguided rants and prolific posting. They have done that damage by making even the most responsible of us grimacew each time we see their shyte. We all know (except for 77 'other members'  ) who the worst culprit was but I suggest that if you really care then have a think about what I have said.------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 2:26pm
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Lucky you fish west coast "smudge"if you are referring to advocate group being attacked by some of us,its justified as when you question them they give a hundred reasons why they are right and we are wrong,What have they really achieved in talks?sna1 fished down,sna1 crayfish almost extinct,agreement over sna1 proposals even though they do not fit with their own principles,why agree?Cannot even send a representative to a meeting they in conjunction with mpi organised. Yes you are right we as Fishers need to unite and show mpi we mean business. The commercial sector have stuck together and we need to do the same. just like the aussies have done. Yes there is a political party based on fishing and outdoors but not been active."gun angler"? The Australian recreational fishers party did not get a seat but got rid of those who favoured super trawlers. Now the arfp is in talks and the trawler will be gone soon due to another vote on whether she fishes at night,if they govt says no night fishing she will be gone as it is uneconomical to operate as stated by the dutch and kiwi owners,currently catching mackerel and freezing and sending to african countries for little return according to owners. I think we know where she will try next??
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 8:01pm
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Fair enough Paul but I think you missed my point. It's a basic rule and it goes like this: Play the ball and not the man. I am tired of all the sh*t fights on here from people that have no idea how much their nonsense posts are hurting our cause. One poster in particular has caused so much damage to recreational fishing rights through his 77+ aliases by alienating some of the most responsible recreational fishermen in the country. Absolute barstool of a man who unfortunately believes with his whole heart he is doing the right thing. Sad because he can't see what most of us can. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 8:19pm
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Who has 77 + aliases ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: REIVER
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 8:24pm
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 8:31pm
A member of these forums who has now agreed not to post here anymore. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 8:31pm
yep ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 8:43pm
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This eels issue is the same as the salt water fishery. Overfishing but .environmental and habitat degradation most likely at main reason for collapse . sea grass is an area that the small elvers live in .As a child upon around Pakiri river .Omaha sea grass was everywhere .all gone now..I recall 1000s upon 1000s being in these areas..If this is a trend around shallow harbours and river inlets it may explain some of the loss .. This degradation is slowly spreading out further into the saltwater and inner fisheries. Could explain the scallops.pipis.etc ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: Tzer
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 8:48pm
Hey smudge you sure its 77+ and not 78+ and continues to post. Sorry cant help myself been a long few days stuck in a class room biting my tongue. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 9:23pm
Well the guy has given his word. Surely he's telling the truth. I know he cares for the fishery, unfortunately he has no idea about how to get people on his side. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2016 at 2:20am
| fair call "smudge"will leave alone and see where we head next,hopefully it get back to those involved and might raise a quetion are we doing it right? |