thunnus 8000 or 12000
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Printed Date: 11 Jun 2026 at 10:17pm
Topic: thunnus 8000 or 12000
Posted By: sappercatcha
Subject: thunnus 8000 or 12000
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2016 at 2:31pm
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I brought a 4000 thunnus ci4 last year for straylineing the shallows of the kaipara over mud and sand but it aslo doubles as a soft baiter aswell great little reel so looking to get its bigger brother to strayline over foul on the east coast and stop the monsters from getting to the bottom and busting ya off so need a fair amount of grunt will use about 40lb braid I like compact so thinking the 8000 but has that got the grunt i need to get those massive snapper turned in a hurry?? What's your thoughts? Cheers ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">  keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2016 at 3:35pm
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I recently did a bit of a review type thing on the Baitrunner 8000D. These reels have exactly the same drag stack as the Thunnus so I would expect near-identical drag performance. The 8000D will only deliver a little over 6kg of drag because much beyond this the rotor starts to bend quite a lot. The Thunnus should have a much stiffer rotor though, as it's made from the fancy-pants Ci4 material. I would be surprised if you couldn't get at least 7kg of drag from one. If you run with the 1/3rd rule then 7kg drag = 21kg line which works nicely with your aim of 40lb braid. If you don't need the capacity, I'd get the 8000. My 2c at least.
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Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2016 at 4:03pm
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The spcs sheet says following baitrunner d 8000 max drag 9kg Baitrunner d 12000 max drag 12kg Thunnus 8000 10kg max drag Thunnus 12000 12kg max drag And yes stronger ci4 frame so maybe a comfortable 8kg drag Cap isn't an issue really never fish over 50m and hardly ever that deep if you cant stop a big fish over foul with 30m of line your not going to the specs sheet says that the 8000 should hold plenty of 40lb to get the job done and more ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2016 at 7:46am
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Part of the equation is the rod your putting it on as well... Keep in mind a 15kg rod is ideally suited to say 5-8kg drag max. you want a balanced set up so you're hardly going to match the 8000 with a tank rod. CI4 has some cool merits, light weight, No corrosion etc, but you buy a thunnus because they have Paladin gearing (smoother and far better longevity) a thicker main shaft (which is possibly where the one rozboon tested was getting its flex from, Think I might spool one up and see if I get the same results as well), X-ship which is more main shaft support and they have better bearings... Main thing though is the paladin. There's a significant difference between a D series and a Thunnus. |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 3:50pm
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went to my local H&F store today and picked up a birthday present a thunnus 8000 on a shimano terez 30-50 lb rod spooled with 250m of 50lb braid ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: skunk
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 5:59pm
Nice one, I have a 8000 with mono and have been thinking about getting another spool for the braid option. ------------- "Team Skunk 10th equal Grunter Hunter 2020" |
sappercatcha wrote:Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 6:39pm
I have a Thunnus on a Terez and I like it. Really good for big fish and dealing with the sometimes endless supply of big tope we get out west. Only criticism is the reel doesn't have huge line capacity which has only tested me twice and that was hooked up in 40m on kingfish. The combo still beat them though. It will pretty much handle anything you can throw at it apart from huge as bronzies. I think you'll be really happy with it. I'm a real fan of light gear but I use this set all the time, even straylining for gurnard. Sad I know   ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 8:24pm
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I will stick to the 4000 for snapper in the kaipara its all you could ever need over sand/mud in the harbour and use the 8000 for kingfish in the kaipara and big snapper over foul ground out east and out on the west coast most likely ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 8:40pm
Yepp, good plan, despite being a 'big rig' you won't regret buying it.  ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 8:56pm
I think it will be the combo of choice for the forum fishing trip on the 2nd can drop a flasher in the deep(er than I'm used to), strayline, chuck a stick bait, could even jig with it if I had to, live bait you name it it ill do it maybe not the ideal for some methods but saves bringing more than one rod ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 10:07pm
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Yes I agree. There was a recent thread from 3RNZIR about using an SL20SH as a kingfish jigging reel. Certainly not my first choice but it is what he has. It turned out there are a few people using them for exactly that. Nothing wrong with an all rounder approach. It's the angler and not the gear. Knowing your situation I think you would be very happy with the set. I'm happy with mine and it has become my go to. Having said that, I also have a light set as a go to. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Schampy
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 8:22am
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I brought the thunnis 6000 combined with a shimano X series nano for the mrs. Have found myself using it more and more when shes not on the boat. Sure it dosnt have the stopping power of my Saragosa..... but that lite weight and bait runner feature make it a sublime setup. My brother borrowed it when we did a mid winter Matauri mission at the end of june. Natrually the prick landed a 17 lb snapper with it.... in 30 feet of water over foul...... easily. Impressive little rig.
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Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2016 at 12:41pm
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caught my 1st fish on it yesterday at challenger was only a 400mm in 23m of water over the sand was surprised how much feel that terez had for a rod with so much grunt could a good gurnard on it to ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: OuttaHere
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2016 at 1:21pm
It's not the rotor shifting on the shaft, the "wing" of the rotor on the line roller side actually gets bent in towards the spool  If you grab either side of the rotor in your hand and squeeze you can see and feel it flexing. I don't know about the x-ship thing, the interior layout of the gearbox looked identical, other than the obviously different gears. The bearings are meant to be the same between an 8000D and a Thunnus too - only the Thunnus gets 2 more, in the spool and the line roller. Both great reels though. My original review was actually 8000OC vs 8000D and the conclusion was neither, buy a Thunnus
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