Best spin Softbait/Micro jig combo $500 under
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Topic: Best spin Softbait/Micro jig combo $500 under
Posted By: Youngblood
Subject: Best spin Softbait/Micro jig combo $500 under
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2016 at 8:59am
Hey guys Was looking for some advice on what set ups you use for both soft baiting and some jigging.
At the moment I have a couple of cheaper soft bait setups that I use for jigging as well. I don't fish in water over 50m and my tackle box includes inchiku jigs 40-80g, kaburas to 40- 80g and some of kaveman micro jigs between 30 &40g I also regularly fish soft baits mainly using 1/4 & 1/2 ounce jig heads.
I am looking for a spinning setup that will enable me to use both jigs and micro jigs effectively and a setup THAT WILL LAST.
I currently use 4000 size reels but was maybe looking to down size to say 2500 so was just wondering what setups you guys use and recommend for my uses, line weight and brands are also welcome. The most important thing and is why I am upgrading up to $500 is because of how well the reels stand up to the salt water as I found the cheaper reels don't offer much resistance to the wetter conditions so the better seals on the reels is a major factor
thanks in advance, Youngblood
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2016 at 9:22am
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If you want fully sealed in a 2500/4000 size then you need to go over $500.
My Stradic FJ isn't sealed, though I use it on a dinghy a lot, and on teardown never see evidence of water inside. I've coated all the internals with a wipe of grease in case.
Anyway I use a Stradic FC with 5kg fireline (breaks at 7.5kg) and an Abu Velocity 2-5kg (discontinued though you can still pick up the odd one) very good combo.
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2016 at 11:22pm
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HI Youngblood,
If you haven't already, you may find it useful to read the current thread about advice on a reel to match with an Ocean Angler Microwave rod in this forum. Some good ideas from the likes of Uncle, and others. There's a bit of discussion about the mag-sealed Daiwa reels, and how to get hold of one at a fraction of the price you pay here in NZ. I've been doing some research and you can get a slightly older model Daiwa Caldia from Japan for about NZ$260 (on Digitaka.com). Otto's Tackle World in Sydney has some great prices on pre-2016 models of the Caldia as well.
That would leave you a decent whack to spend on the rod.
Remember another fact you'll see mentioned on this forum that Daiwa model size numbers are different from Shimano etc. So a 3000 Daiwa = 4000 Shimano; 2500 Daiwa = 3000 Shimano. There are some strong Shimano and Daiwa camps on the forum, that's for sure! Others like Okuma and Penn.
From what i've seen on the forum, many of the gurus favour smaller and lighter reels for soft baiting and light lure work (2500 Daiwa, 3000 the rest). That's consistent with some of the well known fishing mag writers. See Makka's recent post on the 'Reel for OA Microwave' thread.
Those same gurus also favour light braid - say 10-15lb stated breaking strain. The two big sellers seem to be Berkley Fireline Exceed, and Sufix 832.
In terms of a rod, there is a strong school of thought (with Mark Kitteridge being the key advocate) for long rods for soft baiting, edging towards 8 foot, rather than 7ft. Longer cast, better line control (see some of the comments in the OA rod thread). I sense a long rod may, however, be a disadvantage with jigging, which seems to be more vertical than angled. If you want a long rod, Top Catch has the Ocean Angler Microwave for $200 (online only special). i imagine the quality of components - such as guides, reel seat etc - has a big say in a rod's longevity (along with how you transport the rod at sea and in a vehicle!). Fuji seems to be a decent benchmark for quality components. But again, there are plenty of fans on the forum for cheaper rods such as the Shimano Catana.
have fun making your choice!
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2016 at 11:36pm
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PS. one last point.
Some of the cheaper rods are 'composites' rather than full graphite. E.g. many of the Shimano combos feature the Backbone Elite series, which Shimano describes as being "high quality composite blanks". Whereas I've had fishing shop staff members in two of the top chains tell me they are 100% graphite. Composites are more forgiving in terms of fragility in small boats. The 7 ft Okuma X Factor soft bait rod is a composite (e-glass and graphite, I believe) that is very popular and cheap. Quite a bendy action, which seems to be favoured for jigging, given the small hooks etc.
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 6:03am
I have a Shimano StradicCi4 4000 and although it is only a year old it certainly appears to be built well. Cheaper reels often have die cast gears, they will let you down eventually. A 4000 size is probably bigger than you need for snapper fishing as you you really only need 6 to 10lb braid, as we have to deal with a lot of sharks at times I chose a larger reel. Mine is matched to a Diawa Coastal inchiku rod which is a nice little rod but I don't think they are available now. I do own a Catana but I don't particularly rate it, although they are fairly forgiving.
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 12:41pm
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FYI Youngblood, the reliable Aussie website Anglers Warehouse - based out of a shop at Tweed Heads - has the Ci4 Stradics for A$199 at the moment (the 3000 and the 4000) which seems like a great price. Take off 10% GST for international sales, add back the exchange rate diff, and it works out about NZ$200 for the reel. Then you pay a flat A$18 3-day courier.
The likes of Marine Deals have the Ci4s for a much higher NZ$299, which is claimed to be $80 off. So again, you can find an overseas internet deal that could leave you plenty for your chosen rod. With nearly $300 to play with, you're almost at Offshore Illusion price range.
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Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 2:09pm
The Tamure Kid wrote:
FYI Youngblood, the reliable Aussie website Anglers Warehouse - based out of a shop at Tweed Heads - has the Ci4 Stradics for A$199 at the moment (the 3000 and the 4000) which seems like a great price. Take off 10% GST for international sales, add back the exchange rate diff, and it works out about NZ$200 for the reel. Then you pay a flat A$18 3-day courier.
The likes of Marine Deals have the Ci4s for a much higher NZ$299, which is claimed to be $80 off. So again, you can find an overseas internet deal that could leave you plenty for your chosen rod. With nearly $300 to play with, you're almost at Offshore Illusion price range. |
Shimano NZ carries 10 years warrenty and the CI4+ only the old model is only $250 at YEEHAA fishing tackle. the new 2016 model has just arrived at our shop last week. Size 1000. 2500. 3000 and 4000

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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 4:03pm
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No guarantee you wouldn't be pinged with GST upon import to NZ.
The major downside to Daiwa's magseal is that you can not self service. The magseal will break down over time, and will need to be serviced by Daiwa in NZ. Also the magseal won't keep out sand, so no playing on the beach.
For those reasons, I'd give the nod to Shimano in the mid range price bracket, unless you really need that combination of free spinning water sealing. I much prefer to have a Stradic knowing I can take it down in 20minutes. It's really not hard to do in this age of youtube. Find a teardown video and follow it.
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 4:47pm
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You're sending people down the wrong alley re your statement on GST, OneWay!
The threshold for GST to be charged on a single non-business importation is goods to the value of NZ$400 - because any amount payable under NZ$60 is waived.
So it requires a quick check of ballpark exhange rates and a calculator to ensure you're not going to get hit.
Don't take my word for it, read for yourself on the NZ Customs website: http://www.whatsmyduty.org.nz/whats-my-duty
"If the amount to be paid to Customs is under $60, this will be waived, but if it’s $60 or more, you’ll have to pay any duty and GST plus an Import Entry Transaction Fee and MPI levy."
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 5:01pm
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and Mr Yeehaa,
I understand from your website that you have the certification to do a Daiwa mag seal service - you do not have to send reels away.
The mag seal servicing drama subject has cropped up a bit on various threads about reel choices, where Daiwa fans are challenged by Shimano fans.
Your website page on servicing states you charge $40 for a normal spin reel service, and $50 for baitrunners. And $70 for a 'Saltiga Mag Seal service'.
For those of us who are in the market for a spin reel and trying to make sense of the debate and comments by the likes of OWT, please post here what a mag seal service costs for say, a Caldia or Certate 2500.
That would be much appreciated by those of us who aren't DIY when it comes to reel servicing, other than basic care. We'll be able to make an informed choice.
TKK
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 5:47pm
Thanks for that tkk. I had an idea that gst or not would depend on value but was not sure where the cutoff applies. Still worth considering for reels over $400.
The extra cost of a mag seal service would be a major issue for me. $70 vs nada. If you pay for services then it evens out some as the mag seal might not need as much servicing.
Also I was under the impression that daiwa don't share their magseal or sell it so only certain places/agents could service their higher end reels. Would be interested just how many shops in nz could do that, or if they just ship them to daiwa. Suspect it's the latter.
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Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 5:54pm
The way I look at magseal is that if it craps out, your still no worse off than a standard reel. That said I have fished my mag seal reels pretty hard for over 2 years and they still feel like they did the day they came out of the box, not been serviced yet.
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 5:55pm
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A standard unsealed reel. Most magseal reels are priced to compete with sealed reels. In fairness I suspect the magseal would rarely go wrong for it's predicted life expectancy.
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Posted By: Cigar
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 6:13pm
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Wasn't there talk that they were canning the GST waiver and all imports would have to pay?
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 6:18pm
Isn't the mag seal just something to do with the drag? Or does it seal the whole reel?
------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 6:49pm
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Don't forget mag seal oil has a shelf life of 5 years. So from the day the oil is in the reel the clock is ticking on your mag oil.
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Posted By: Downtown
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 7:09pm
YeeHaa wrote:
The Tamure Kid wrote:
FYI Youngblood, the reliable Aussie website Anglers Warehouse - based out of a shop at Tweed Heads - has the Ci4 Stradics for A$199 at the moment (the 3000 and the 4000) which seems like a great price. Take off 10% GST for international sales, add back the exchange rate diff, and it works out about NZ$200 for the reel. Then you pay a flat A$18 3-day courier.
The likes of Marine Deals have the Ci4s for a much higher NZ$299, which is claimed to be $80 off. So again, you can find an overseas internet deal that could leave you plenty for your chosen rod. With nearly $300 to play with, you're almost at Offshore Illusion price range. |
Shimano NZ carries 10 years warrenty and the CI4+ only the old model is only $250 at YEEHAA fishing tackle. the new 2016 model has just arrived at our shop last week. Size 1000. 2500. 3000 and 4000

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What are these new models going for Yeehaa? It'll be a toss up between these or a clash next pay. I'm sure the daiwa kit is mean but I like to do my own maintenance.
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 8:52pm
OneWay, all good. I only had a vague idea of the threshold until I brought in some clothing from the US that converted to over the NZ$400 mark - even with GST and the other charges, the clothing was a good deal, but I felt a bit stupid and quickly got up to speed on the rules. Now I make damn sure I'm not in the ballpark. As you say, it rules out the top end reels, but I'm in the mid range anyway.
As someone else mentioned, there has been a signal from the government that they're keen to get their hands on the slice of the pie they are missing out on and will revamp the rules. Retailers here are pushing for it too, but nothing set in stone yet.
And I totally get it re the servicing cost. I wish I had skills in that area, but sadly not. I'm prepared to pay because I'd rather leave it to the experts than have a reel that was never the same after I pulled it apart and put something back in backwards! As per my other post, Yeehaa announced a while ago that it is authorised by Daiwa to do the mag seal service on site, but hopefully we'll hear that from the horses mouth, and the cost, in reply to my question.
In the $200-300 reel range, I'd read reviews and forum threads for Africa and was about to pull the trigger on a Stradic FK until I had second thoughts after reading some of the raves about the Caldia and realising i could get one from overseas for the top end of my budget. But then the mag seal debate came up and I'm keen to get some answers before making a final call.
TKK
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 9:09pm
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The first time I pulled apart a reel I had no idea what I was doing. Fortunately it was one of Shimano's lowest end reels and stuffed from salt anyway. It really isn't hard to do on a standard spinning reel once you have a little experience. I may post a walkthrough on the forums for my Stradic FJ the next time I pull it apart. There are some videos on Youtube, and alanhawk is a good reference. Alantani's website has detailed breakdown threads on all types of reels, mainly overheads but spinners too. Just about the only reel I am still afraid to open is my Thunnus. Over twice the part count.
The other advantage of doing that is that I got to see first hand the benefits of my Stradic over my Symetre in terms of components, and I removed the auto bail trip from my reel. Never use that anyway.
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 9:18pm
smudge wrote:
Isn't the mag seal just something to do with the drag? Or does it seal the whole reel?
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Magseal is a catch all term for using little magnets to hold a specially magnetised oil in position where it acts as a seal. I think it can be used to seal bearings, shafts, whatever. It can be used anywhere a rubber seal can be, but with nearly zero friction. No point in using it places where friction is not an issue. Can't see the benefit in reducing friction on a drag myself.
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Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 9:30pm
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The bulk of the reels only use magseal to seal the rotor/ shaft area, they are now starting to use it on the line roller and main bearings too I think
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 10:07pm
OneWayTraffic wrote:
The first time I pulled apart a reel I had no idea what I was doing. Fortunately it was one of Shimano's lowest end reels and stuffed from salt anyway. It really isn't hard to do on a standard spinning reel once you have a little experience. I may post a walkthrough on the forums for my Stradic FJ the next time I pull it apart. There are some videos on Youtube, and alanhawk is a good reference. Alantani's website has detailed breakdown threads on all types of reels, mainly overheads but spinners too. Just about the only reel I am still afraid to open is my Thunnus. Over twice the part count.
The other advantage of doing that is that I got to see first hand the benefits of my Stradic over my Symetre in terms of components, and I removed the auto bail trip from my reel. Never use that anyway.
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That would be great. I've got a 4000 FJ and really enjoy using it. If the FK is an improvement, as many say, it must be a very nice reel.
At this stage, i'd be likely to remove the bail arm trip unintentionally! I got some braid caught up inside my Lexa 3000 once and had to pull the spool off to free it. Somehow either the braid or me pinged off a little spring to do with the drag, I think. And I couldn't for the life of me work out how it should be re-attached. Luckily I had a spare reel on the boat and back on shore a mate with the same reel so that we could take his reel's spool off and work out how the spring was supposed to look. Now you know what I pay to get a service!
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Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:45pm
I have a c14 its nice to have a regular sized reel that's easy to hang on to in a much lighter package. I have a 4000 so tons of line and a good sized reel that is very light for it's grunt.
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Posted By: Youngblood
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 8:02pm
Woah guys cheers for all the responses,
Before posting I was quite interested in the stradic ci4 2500 and was glad to hear so many good responses. what also caught my eye was the daiwa caldia and after checking ottos tackle world and seeing it for $300 aus threw a spanner in the works. At the moment I don't service my own reels but would be quite interested in doing so, I think it would give me a better understanding in how to clean my reels after I use them if I know how they are built and can check the internals regularly, also with the purchase of a new reel I would have my older cheaper reels that I could practice on. funny ttk that u mentioned the okuma x factor rod as I own one my self and love it for Softbaiting with the flex it has, however the only problem I have is that it can't really handle the heavier jigs towards 80g
Will have to make a decision between the stradic and the caldia but at this stage I am leaning towards the stradic with the knowledge I will gain and being able to purchase locally within my budget.
still keen for more responses they have been really helpful cheers youngblood
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 8:17pm
I'd be talking to Yeehaa Youngblood, maybe they'll do you a deal on a combo. Their price for the Stradic sounds good. A rod matched to a 2500 reel and light braid probably wont like jigs heavier than 80g anyway. I fish 60g inchikus in 50m + and they don't have any problems finding the bottom. I only fish heavier jigs once the couttas have eaten all the lighter ones.
------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:14pm
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Good stuff Youngblood.
It's fantastic to have some of the wily campaigners on this forum prepared to share their knowledge - I'm a relative newcomer to softbaiting, but soaked up as much info as i could from this and various mags, books and YouTube clips. Definitely accelerated me through the learning curve to where i'm reasonably proficient.
in terms of purchasing gear, I think it's always a good rule to buy the best you can afford. I used to end up with three cheaper reels because each one was what I could afford at the time, and later wish I'd saved my money, then stretched myself and got one really quality reel. I think reels are where price reflects quality the most, certainly for softbaiting and jigging. But I've used a $35 Shimano FX4000B reel for light strayline baitfishing for several years and it's landed decent bronzies, snapper, kahawai etc. I wouldn't want to try casting and retrieving soft baits all day with it, though.
Weigh up as much info as you can, then simply choose what feels best. The best rod in the world is no good for you if it doesn't feel right in your hand, or isn't balanced with the reel you've got.
I see Top Catch has a nice looking Okuma nano matrix soft baiting rod on sale for about $150 this week. 7'9" which would meet the long is best recommendation from some soft bait gurus, and it's got Fuji components. But it may be too light actioned for your bigger inchikus.
Stradics certainly appear to be the favourite $200-$300 reel on this site, and importing and/or the mag seal Daiwa factor seems to be a stumbling block for some.
You might want to check out two Marine Deals combos - the Shimano Nano STS rod with either a Ci4 Stradic ($449) or the FK Stradic ($409). That rod may be stiffer and powerful enough for your jigging needs. It's 7'3", so a touch longer than the typical 7 footer. I think those rods been around for at least a couple of years, so others on here might have a view on the reliability, action etc.
Enjoy the process of deciding.
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:56pm
That's a pretty good summary Tamure Kid. Really long rods can be a pain when you get the fish boat side. I use a shorter rod for inchiku's (6'6" or something like that) that is pretty good to use.
------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 6:54pm
Bit late on the scene here recently got Stradic 2500 FK which ticks a lot of boxes for me. Have been using a Synit slow pitch/long fall rod which is great but wanted a dedicated micro jigging rod so after quite a bit of research got a Senses Blue Heaven G2 L which I'm really looking forward to testing. Overall cost of this setup inc. Stradic, braid & the Senses rod was a bit over $500 but I'm pretty happy with the quality & I can now fully have a crack at Slow Pitch & Micro jigging.
------------- Tight lines PE Pete
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 10:16pm
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FYI guys, as part of my research I sent a question to US-based reel reviewer Alan Hawk, who some of you will know totally dis-assembles reels as part of his testing. He doesn't hold back on his views, and he's pretty black and white. He's kind of made his name being very outspoken.
His blog and 'best lists' etc indicate he's clearly big fan of the Stradic FJ series, so I asked what he thinks of the FK update.
He replied overnight: "The FK is practically the same as the FJ only with meaningless tweaks to make it look better. Both are some of the best light weight reels available on a budget."
Interesting. I also asked about the Caldia and he isn't impressed, which is disappointing as I was verging towards a 2500 model for lighter softbaiting - given than I have a FJ 4000 loaded with 7kg Fireline for heavier softbaiting. Hawk rates the reel's gearing as inferior to the Stradic and the mag seal as a pain in terms of self servicing.
So another viewpoint for what it's worth. TTK
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 11:07pm
Yeah the gearing on the Stradics look pretty well engineered.
------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 11:13pm
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I pulled apart both my Symetre and Stradic FJ. The Stradic obviously had the better internals.
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Posted By: Garry 23041
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 7:22am
I leave my rod and reel on the boat so it's hard on stuff. (moored)
I carry my expensive jig gear and other rods home but my on the boat daily fisher with softies and micros is the c14 on an Okuma nano and I think these rods are great bang for the buck.
I like a longer base though so I can prop under my arm if I want so I did extend the butt 80mm with a bit off an older light weight rod (caulk) Looks factory and makes it perfect for my needs.
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 5:14pm
The Tamure Kid wrote:
FYI guys, as part of my research I sent a question to US-based reel reviewer Alan Hawk, who some of you will know totally dis-assembles reels as part of his testing.He doesn't hold back on his views, and he's pretty black and white. He's kind of made his name being very outspoken.
His blog and 'best lists' etc indicate he's clearly big fan of the Stradic FJ series, so I asked what he thinks of the FK update.
He replied overnight: "<span style="color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; line-height: 22.72px;">The FK is practically the same as the FJ only with meaningless tweaks to make it look better. Both are some of the best light weight reels available on a budget."</span>
Interesting. I also asked about the Caldia and he isn't impressed, which is disappointing as I was verging towards a 2500 model for lighter softbaiting - given than I have a FJ 4000 loaded with 7kg Fireline for heavier softbaiting. Hawk rates the reel's gearing as inferior to the Stradic and the mag seal as a pain in terms of self servicing.
So another viewpoint for what it's worth. TTK |
Pretty good reels for the money no doubt BUT really unimpressed with the handle knobs on all the FK range! I've now got the 2500 & 5000 and have changed the knobs on both to round Sustain on the 2500 & small Stella on the 5000. I realise it's a price point thing but factory knobs on the FK's just don't do it for me & are a bit disappointing. IMO
------------- Tight lines PE Pete
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2016 at 2:37pm
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New C14 Stradic is very nice the 1000 & 4000 size in particular.
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2016 at 2:55pm
PE Pete wrote:
The Tamure Kid wrote:
FYI guys, as part of my research I sent a question to US-based reel reviewer Alan Hawk, who some of you will know totally dis-assembles reels as part of his testing.He doesn't hold back on his views, and he's pretty black and white. He's kind of made his name being very outspoken.
His blog and 'best lists' etc indicate he's clearly big fan of the Stradic FJ series, so I asked what he thinks of the FK update.
He replied overnight: "<span style="color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; line-height: 22.72px;">The FK is practically the same as the FJ only with meaningless tweaks to make it look better. Both are some of the best light weight reels available on a budget."</span>
Interesting. I also asked about the Caldia and he isn't impressed, which is disappointing as I was verging towards a 2500 model for lighter softbaiting - given than I have a FJ 4000 loaded with 7kg Fireline for heavier softbaiting. Hawk rates the reel's gearing as inferior to the Stradic and the mag seal as a pain in terms of self servicing.
So another viewpoint for what it's worth. TTK |
Pretty good reels for the money no doubt BUT really unimpressed with the handle knobs on all the FK range! I've now got the 2500 & 5000 and have changed the knobs on both to round Sustain on the 2500 & small Stella on the 5000. I realise it's a price point thing but factory knobs on the FK's just don't do it for me & are a bit disappointing. IMO |
If there is one thing I would change on my Stradic 4000 it is the knob on the handle. A big round one would be perfect.
------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2016 at 3:06pm
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Without spending lot of money I think the saros is great value for money. Got a 3000 like it.
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2016 at 4:58pm
smudge wrote:
PE Pete wrote:
The Tamure Kid wrote:
FYI guys, as part of my research I sent a question to US-based reel reviewer Alan Hawk, who some of you will know totally dis-assembles reels as part of his testing.He doesn't hold back on his views, and he's pretty black and white. He's kind of made his name being very outspoken.
His blog and 'best lists' etc indicate he's clearly big fan of the Stradic FJ series, so I asked what he thinks of the FK update.
He replied overnight: "<span style="color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; line-height: 22.72px;">The FK is practically the same as the FJ only with meaningless tweaks to make it look better. Both are some of the best light weight reels available on a budget."</span>
Interesting. I also asked about the Caldia and he isn't impressed, which is disappointing as I was verging towards a 2500 model for lighter softbaiting - given than I have a FJ 4000 loaded with 7kg Fireline for heavier softbaiting. Hawk rates the reel's gearing as inferior to the Stradic and the mag seal as a pain in terms of self servicing.
So another viewpoint for what it's worth. TTK |
Pretty good reels for the money no doubt BUT really unimpressed with the handle knobs on all the FK range! I've now got the 2500 & 5000 and have changed the knobs on both to round Sustain on the 2500 & small Stella on the 5000. I realise it's a price point thing but factory knobs on the FK's just don't do it for me & are a bit disappointing. IMO |
If there is one thing I would change on my Stradic 4000 it is the knob on the handle. A big round one would be perfect.
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Like this maybe

------------- Tight lines PE Pete
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Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2016 at 7:03pm
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penn clash/conflict have a great eva ball handle and will not break the bank so not sure why others can't sort out their handles. those little flat paddles on some reels are horrible.
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2016 at 4:41pm
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Hi guys, After all the research and tooing and froing, i've finally pulled the trigger - and now have a happy foot in both Shimano and Daiwa camps.
Got a nice metallic blue Caldia B 2500 from Otto's in Sydney for a tick under NZ$300 landed at the doorstep. Feels really smooth and will be my light set up.
Then snapped up the Stradic 4000 FK that Green Guy was selling, brand new still in the box. Good deal and great to meet a forum guru in person on pick up.
But, now am keen to get input into the right braid for each - for softbaiting in mainly relatively open country.
I could get some Stren Microfuse online from a few discount places overseas which still have it - in 6lb, 8lb etc. Some guys on the forum used to swear by it. Kaveman's out of those sizes, unfortunately, since it was discontinued, and reckons he'd go the Tasline Elite White 8lb versus the Microfuse anyway.
Green Guy is running Varivas PE 1.2 from Yeehaa on his Stradic 2500 and reckons it's unbreakable.
Input welcome from the softbait gurus out there.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2016 at 2:05pm
I just bought some Tasline All white series from TMe, $36 for 300yd of 8lb, (man is it thin, 0.14mm by my calipers compared to the 10lb Stren microfuse i normally use which is 0.20mm) Will report back after trialling the 8lb tasline but seems preety strong as couldnt break it when "bedding" down the FG knot with 20lb fluro
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2016 at 2:31pm
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wow, great deal Kaveman - I can only see the 'premium' one, so I presume you snapped up the only Elite on offer. Nice work.
Interesting point by Makka on the other current thread that the lines either side of that weight are only 6 strand, whereas the PE0.8 you've got your hands on is 8 strand.
Be good to know what you think of that versus the likes of Fireline or Microfuse - particularly in terms of casting distance. Or maybe that's not comparing apples with apples, given Tasline appears to not be a 'fused' line, more like the Japanese 8 strands.
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 10:26pm
kaveman wrote:
I just bought some Tasline All white series from TMe, $36 for 300yd of 8lb, (man is it thin, 0.14mm by my calipers compared to the 10lb Stren microfuse i normally use which is 0.20mm) Will report back after trialling the 8lb tasline but seems preety strong as couldnt break it when "bedding" down the FG knot with 20lb fluro
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That 8lb should break at 14lb. That's what they claim, and assuming that it's made from the same basic stuff as other braids puts it in the ball park for it's diameter. .2mm is almost exactly twice the cross sectional area compared to .14mm and the 10lb stren breaks at 28lb.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 7:47am
OneWayTraffic wrote:
kaveman wrote:
I just bought some Tasline All white series from TMe, $36 for 300yd of 8lb, (man is it thin, 0.14mm by my calipers compared to the 10lb Stren microfuse i normally use which is 0.20mm) Will report back after trialling the 8lb tasline but seems preety strong as couldnt break it when "bedding" down the FG knot with 20lb fluro
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That 8lb should break at 14lb. That's what they claim, and assuming that it's made from the same basic stuff as other braids puts it in the ball park for it's diameter. .2mm is almost exactly twice the cross sectional area compared to .14mm and the 10lb stren breaks at 28lb.
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OWT, stren microfuse is heat treated hence the title "fused", heat treatment supposedly adds to the breaking strain when treated this way. Fused braids feel quite coarse compared to woven braids and the Tasline i have is silky smooth. It be be interesting to see how it fares in longevity as my Microfuse i have on my Stella 4000 would be 4 yrs old and still perfect condition. I do have 20lb and 30lb Tasline All white series on my inchiku and slow pitch reels as well and that is approx 2yrs old with no problems what so ever Will keep you posted
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 11:41am
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Hi Kaveman,
I'd be keen to know what reel you're going to run the Tasline on, and how much of the 300m you fit on it. Sorry if you've mentioned that before, but I can't remember.
TTK
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Posted By: Big Manly Yaka
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 12:36pm
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Hey Lester did you end up trying the Elite from Busted, Aussie dollar is only $1.05 at the moment...
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 1:29pm
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I am very keen, just trying to work out which rated line to put on my Caldia. Makka pointed out the PE.5 and the PE1 are both only 6 strand, whereas the PE.6 (av break 20lb) is 8 strand. Intuitively, you'd think the 8 strand would be stronger. I can get why the very finest one would be 6 strand, but why drop back to 6 for the PE1?
end of the day, I probably won't notice the difference with the type of fishing I normally do.
My question to Kaveman re capacity is related to the fact that I will be putting on the line myself. I don't want to end up short of optimal line fill on the reel, and wondering if, given the PE.5 is so thin, I will need to put on some backing first.
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Posted By: Big Manly Yaka
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 3:06pm
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I put the 8lb Elite white on my Caldia 3000 as well, (one of the 2 spools) but only 150m with a bit of mono backing. My concern was having the spool too full as that really thin line is quite susceptible to wind knots anyway, so a overfilled spool may exacerbate the wind knots.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 3:30pm
Lester, i put it on a Caldia 2500 as well, probably 150-170m with small bit of mono backing. You wont need to use mono backing with 2500 or 3000 size reel Got 10lb microfuse on the Certate and 4000 Stella
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 3:46pm
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Thanks for that, BigManly and Kaveman - very good intel.
I always find loading line quite tricky, particularly with 125yd braid spools, so am keen to make the process simple.
Warning - dumb question alert! I always wonder how people 'reverse' their braid lines on to the same spool, as some people say they do.
Unless I'm missing something very basic: first, you'd have to wind off the line onto a spare reel or spool, and the 'worn' end would therefore be buried. So you'd have to then do another wind onto another spare spool, so the 'worn' line would be on the top; THEN join the 'worn' section to the old backing or original empty reel spool, and wind back on with the good line at the top.
Am I right or a dunce?
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 4:02pm
If do it then I need two spare reels. Going to do just that tonight to get the right amount of backing on.
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Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 6:46pm
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Keep your old line spools, wind it off onto one with a cordless drill, then another, then back onto your reel
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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 7:32pm
Good tip, Makka. Didn't think of that.
That's the best use of a cordless drill i've seen since my brother in law used one with an egg beater type mixer attachment to try to whip a bowl of cream on Christmas morning. Unfortunately, he was a bit ambitious with the speed trigger and spent the rest of the morning cleaning cream off the kitchen walls, cupboards and ceiling.
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