Lethal's Opinion, Advice
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Topic: Lethal's Opinion, Advice
Posted By: Lethal
Subject: Lethal's Opinion, Advice
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 5:38am
New Zealand, A Dishonest Government Out of Control Key Says Shhhh, don’t tell the Kiwis!Tens of thousands homeless. Hundreds sleeping in cars, thousands sleeping on the street, in garages, sheds, at Maraes, or just wherever they can. The response of the Prime Minister John Key, known to enjoy fondling the hair of little girls who make the mistake of getting to close to him, is to lie and say “they don’t want any help”. New Zealand is headed for a human disaster akin to a small Third World Country. Soon people will be dying in parks, in cars, in corners of the streets from the cold and wet Winter. Key of course won’t care and probably say ‘they wanted to die’. Decent New Zealanders should not allow this any more, we need to act as one, we need the Media to do their job and run a relentless campaign to rid the Liar that is our Prime Minister from our Government. It is now beyond just letting him keep on with the heartless lies, and the incompetence that has led to this growing disaster. What are the answers? An immediate stop to all immigration until house prices level out and we no longer have people homeless who need and want homes. Housing New Zealand needs to purchase (not sell!) thousands of homes, no matter the cost, and house those who have no suitable accommodation. The long term savings in social costs, along with the affordable rent that could be charged will more than prove financially affordable. That’s it, it is as simple as that to solve our current impending human tragedy. Yet Key will not do this because he relies on Immigrants for votes, which they gladly give his Government because they allow them to buy our houses and businesses. He also will not allow housing to be bought by Housing NZ, because he simply doesn’t care about anyone who is not filthy rich like him and his crooked tax evading corporate mates. John Key, Paula Bennett, and the rest of the National Government, you are a disgrace! Don’t you dare call yourselves Kiwis, as Kiwis care about each other. Your supporters are also a disgrace and deserve to also be treated as Non-Kiwis, Hateful Non-Kiwis who should be ashamed of their heartless disgraceful allegiance to Scum like Key and Bennett. Two prime examples are the second rate sleazy TV hosts Mike Hoskings and Paul Henry who if physically possible would have Key’s babies! Do something decent Kiwis! Do something Media! Write, phone, email your MPs, daily if you can. Quote this article, demand they do what we ask! News Media you should be harassing Key and his incompetent dishonest Ministers every day, demanding action, demanding the truth, demanding action. Don’t sit back anymore and just watch our fellow New Zealanders die, all to please some filthy rich new immigrants who want our houses so they can make some money selling them back to us in a few months or years time! |
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Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 6:22am
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Advice? Maybe in the politics section as its about National ? so much of it is as you say opinion, |
Posted By: MacSkipper
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 7:01am
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I remember a lot of negativity from the right about the Clark government after 3 terms - remember the nanny state etc? What you say about the pain out there is true and ministers looking out of touch, if not next election the one after the government will change, whether it will really help I am not sure? You don't have to look far to see it is just as bad elsewhere if not worse as well - one of the reasons we have high house prices and traffic in Akld is people want to live here and look at the kiwis coming back from Oz. Yes I would prefer a government with a more social agenda and after 3 terms it feels like time for a change. But I remember a lot were happy when Clark went and Key came in? His government still has time to turn it around but it is not looking likely. Anyway you could move to America, if Trump gets in then you will have something to be upset about! ------------- Good fishing trip nothing breaks, great trip catch fish. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 7:36am
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The picture "Lethal" has painted its doom n gloom might as well just shoot ourselves now? Yes there is high house prices,yes there is some homeless by choice others by force. I can/do help anyone but FIRST you need to try and help yourself,there is help out there but need to ASK first its not going to come to you. Why live in Auckland? Thats where a majority of employment is and population hence why low incomes,you not going to pay top $ knowing full well there is competition by those wanting to work. ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:03am
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$850 a week is a poor return (3% on $1.5 million. House prices in Auckland will not grow at 20% a year forever. In ten years at this rate they will be up 6 times to $6 million each. Work out the cost of a mortgage on that! Those who think house prices can never fall will be in for a shock if (when) mortgage rates rise, immigration slows and the speculators get out. |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:25am
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I tend to agree their is a social time bomb ticking away. Many issues at hand .yes I personally think it will go pop. Just a matter of time.For most New Zealands people are law abiding peaceful the odd few are not We have elections next year and sometimes a change is needed as political party's tend to lock them out in the end. National looking like that slowly the longer they have been in government. We need solutions to a whole raft of issues but it all falls on deaf ears We can unite and demand change...Next year do do it at the ballet box.. Until then keep the pressure on and hope they are not going to just sit back and wait for the inevitable. The worst thing is the next lot won't be any better Vote for the minor party's of your choice to reduce power base of the 2 biggest.take away the outright majority that gives them total control... My thoughts only .. ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: Snappa Geoff
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:32am
You should of been a Politition Lethal, would of been good back up for Winston Peters The rest of Country isn't judged or compared to wots happening in Auckland. Most big Australasion cities now are very multi cultural. Why wouldn't they won't to live here we live in paradise. Your constant bleeting doesn't change a thing. They are now part of NZ so get over it. If you feel that strongly move out of Auckland. You hardly see Asians Indians etc in Smaller cities. The ones that are here in the Naki work bluddy hard running there Busineses. Plus the Fishing is tens times better than the big Smoke.
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Posted By: nightieripper
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:38am
| Thought this was a fishing forum... Not a soapbox... |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:46am
NZ has a vey lax Immigration policy... Try to move to USA or China or buy a house there ..not so easy ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
nightieripper wrote:Posted By: nightieripper
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:54am
| personalised drivel bagging the hell out individuals ... Yep really adds to forum |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:59am
One would suspect that would not be the case if those individuals were seen in a brighter light . People are judged by the good and bad things they do ..Either way they are open for praise or criticism ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: Southern_Jez
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 9:24am
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I dont live in Auckland, i dont care about Auckland, and life is pretty bloody good. Housing is affordable, the local comms fishing fleet recommended they lower their own take of Blue Cod, Crayfish, and Oysters, even though demand for all three has increased. I have a high paying job in an industry that is not related to dairy or forestry and is the countries single largest exporter to Japan (granted we do cop a lot of PR crap from the media regarding power usage). In my opinion NZ has become two seperate countries; you have Auckland - horrible, doom and gloom, cant a volcano just pop its top and be done with it already. Then you have the rest of the country, things aren't that bad out here, in fact for those willing to work its pretty bloody good, even in the midst of a dairy downturn. |
Posted By: REIVER
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 9:42am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf69eV2uiyE |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 9:52am
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Auckland has outgrown itself ,from roads to housing its a hassle . No easy fix . To many coming to live here when the city is full and overflowing ,building more and more houses will just increase pressure on an already outdated infrastructure of roads,water and sewage . Decentralization of the port with a push for creation of jobs outside the city central area may help. One thing we haven't heard of for sometime is the ability to keep up with power generation to match growth...There will be an undersupply from 2019 (maybe sooner )But not if Huntly stays open and the aluminium smelter shuts The reliability of New Zealand's electricity supply will slip below established standards from 2019 to at least 2025, according to Transpower. ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 12:23pm
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Shhh, Southern Jez, you cant go around not complaining. Don't you know NZ is doomed to violent revolution, mayhem etc etc, its all AWFUL I tell you.... except I don't think so either. I see a lot of pretty happy people around the place really, people with jobs, making a living, raising families, however, as you say, NZ aint necessarily Auckland, where apparently one in three people are homeless, jobless, hopeless or foreign...., or any combination of the above. Sighhhh..... There are three types of people in the world, according to Terry Pratchett, those who say the glass is half full, those who say it is half empty, and those, who actually RUN the place, who say "Whose glass is this? Its not MINE, my glass was full! And it was a bigger glass! Waiter!, go get me a bigger, fuller glass!" Another little thing I saw on fb the other day, which amused me, being here in a place where such things exist... "I only hate three types of snakes. Big Snakes. Small snakes. Sticks that look like snakes." I hope at least now some of you may smile for a minute..... ------------- It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection. Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 12:59pm
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why are Ak house in the $1 million ball park,banks prepared to loan money,people prepared to pay those prices(no one put a gun to the head to say buy?)kiwis returning from overseas with money(good on them)immigrants bringing overseas funds . Bloke on the radio yesterday has 30 houses in Ak, If he had the funding and foresight to have brought those houses 20yrs ago good on him.Yes hard for those starting out but Auckland is not the centre in NZ. We make choices and same good same bad,that's life. Remember during the 70s/80s pensioners going off on overseas holidays and buying new cars,people were knocking them back then saying pensions to high. ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: Tzer
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 7:33pm
At least Lethal has seen fit to set up his own personal rant section where he & Mowerman can debate the woes of the world between themselves without spoiling what could be other quite constructive posts with their slanted dribble. AND Mowerman before you fire back at me I will try and not read or respond to anything posted here. |
Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:39pm
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Wasnt going to make another comment as its politic and hate towards mainly Key but I live in Auckland and enjoy it greatly. I can catch a fish when ever I want, have a meal at any one of thousands of restaurants and buy what ever I want. I make good money and lifes good. I have offered 3 "homeless" people a job with all 3 saying yes but never turning up. 2 out of 3 of my daughters have bought their own homes (without any help from me) and the third is not too far away. I take overseas trips every year and holiday in other parts of the country. How can I do this? According to some its because Im a greedy prick thats ripping off others. those that know me know its because I saved and didnt blow my income on rubbish as I was trying to set myself and my family up. The biggest problem with NZers is that we love to blame every one else except for our selves. Moaning poms have not one ounce of us, we are with out a doubt the biggest moaners and all we need to do is look into a mirror to see where any problems are. |
Posted By: kitno
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 8:55pm
| Yawn |
Posted By: KikBac
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2016 at 11:08pm
| The 65% of people who own their own homes (and also get off their ass and vote) will be secretly quite pleased that their net worth is increasing at a rate of $100,000 per annum. Anyone who tries to interfere with this new found wealth will do so at their own peril. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2016 at 7:07am
------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: MJ
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 7:22pm
| Don't see any posts here from the majority of those damn Aucklanders that own their homes. That includes me. And I haven't smoked or made P in any houses. Haven't waited for the Govt to give me a house. Didn't have 8 children to 4 different partners. Still out there working and paying my taxes. Couldn't afford to buy my first house in Auckland, so bought that in Hamilton a long time ago - a half rotten place in Frankton near the railway line. I don't have much time for those that want to vote themselves a house. |
Posted By: sposman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 8:01pm
| Overseas in places like Germany where there is a tax on houses they are reasonably priced and people don't spend half there income on mortgages or rent allowing them to enjoy life and spend more money on stuff like fishing, helps the economy pump. |
Posted By: junior fisho
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 8:21am
Aucklands getting worse by the day. Traffic is fu..ed. A good time to sell and leave the rat race . 
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Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:13am
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Bit more to it than that Junior I have a business here (well 3 in fact) I have 2 of my adult kids and our grand kids here We have everything set up how we need it and want it. Our friends are here When your young, no problem but as you become older and want your family to be around its a lot more to it |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:29am
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Auckland is a good city to liveHave lived here since 1975..love the place Yes it has its issues with traffic for those who work away from their home area. But overall ,the climate ,beaches,location Yes housing is expensive for those who are trying to buy or pay off a big mortgage There are down sides .. But over all Auckland has it all ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: junior fisho
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:59am
| I have a business in Auckland too. That will move with me. Big decision to move but with friends and family moving out of auckland its not so bad. Bit late now cause moving out next Thursday. Hope theres fish up there😎 |
Posted By: pompey
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 1:23pm
Great move, you won't regret it. Where are you heading?
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Posted By: junior fisho
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 1:32pm
| Bought a couple acres in Waipu. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2016 at 2:57am
| had a quick glance of house prices in australia,the town we lived in which is equivelant to south ak,2003 3 bedrooom house pool air con,was $210k now $750k so same problem as ak,*mt Duritt,sydney) |
Posted By: 2 Meke
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2016 at 5:34am
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I see a few people here telling us how bad Auckland is. I guess that must be why so many people live here then........ ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Martini Max
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2016 at 9:54pm
Yo Capitalistic Pig You haha ------------- "I do nothing..I do it well.. I then move on to doing more of nothing" |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2016 at 11:17pm
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Best post I have seen for a while, spoken to so many people over the last 9 months south of Taupo and they all say pretty much the same thing, also alot of people are just over it ,
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Posted By: Grumpy_old_Git
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2016 at 11:12am
It's only us old grey-haired folks that might vote for him as we have have trouble remembering what we had for breakfast let alone the fact that he's just a lot of hot air. All Winnie is good at is getting himself in the news but he deserves 10/10 for that. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2016 at 5:25pm
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He looks after guys like you Grumpy old Git. You should be grateful! ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2016 at 5:44pm
| Winstone must be last of the muldoon era?still has it. |
Posted By: Grumpy_old_Git
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2016 at 6:26pm
and I won't say any more nasty things about Winnie even if he does deserve it. But ..... ummm what bugs me is how he can still reasonably sharp after all that scotch and those smokes. I think I might have missed the boat there. Better go and have a Speights before I get grumpy....
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Posted By: Derek F
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2016 at 6:40pm
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Just found out he's married to my aunties sister! Is that good or bad?  ------------- And the trouble is, if you don't risk anything, you risk even more...Erica Jong |
Posted By: Rockstar from Mars
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 7:52pm
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Another bull**** thread in a long line of bull**** threads from the same miserable people who always look for the bad things out of life. You are lucky to live in a great country like NZ. And I am sure it would be an even better country if the negative closed minded people like you departed. Perhaps we should set up a give a little page ------------- Winning..... |
Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 8:34pm
| LOL Brian , you must be bored . |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 3:24pm
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Everything will continue to be just fine--until it isnt. |